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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 05 2012 21:16 GMT
#6539
Hi. I've claimed to be able to shoot someone for 300 damage. If you think that's too much, fine. We can go to one of the time periods in which I've got that ability and I can shoot someone for 300 damage. ta da. Unless I take damage tonight or Adam is lying, it'll do 300 damage to Adam, Adam can say "Oh wow, I just took 300 damage." It's a pretty provable thing. Heck, if you really want to prove it, if there's anyone with random KP remaining they can shoot me this cycle (not too much) and I can fire back when we're in one of the right time periods. I won't know who shot me, it will hit them, they can confirm, ta da. You may find it hard to believe, but I can't aim it and it requires me to take damage AND still be alive the next cycle, AND it's era-specific. However hard you find it to believe, the fact remains that it's 100% testable if you'd like. I've chosen NOT to fire it off the one cycle it was available to me since joining.

As to Z-Boson's actions, I can't give you anything there. Can't tell you why he targeted who he targeted when, but I'm assuming the later cycles he just wasn't around.

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 05 2012 21:21 GMT
#6545
I can't hit someone for 300 tonight anyway, wrong era. But it's a pretty easily confirmable claim.

The heal I can do. Can heal a specific target, but I'd prefer to heal someone who has taken damage and is confirmed or as-near-as-can-be-confirmed town, without giving out the name. Given that we don't know the entirety of what's out there, and seeing as it looks like I'm a nice, juicy, mislynch candidate, I don't exactly want to say "I'm healing x" and open up the possibility of someone having the ability to mess with my target.

As long as nobody is healing the target, they've taken damage, and they confirm the heal, it's the same effect but with less chance of being interefered with.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 05 2012 21:32 GMT
#6547
On December 06 2012 06:24 Promethelax wrote:
yeah, SnB's 250 damage was pretty confirmable too...
At least one person in this game keeps hinting that he doesn't think I actually can do what I've claimed:
On December 06 2012 02:30 Acrofales wrote:
Wait. Your counterattack also sounds insane.

Adam claimed he damaged you in N5. You are claiming you could counterattack him in N7. Please explain this ability a LOT better. 300 damage is also far more than anybody except Drazerk has claimed he can do (oh, and H1, but he has to hit himself before he can shoot).

On December 06 2012 05:33 Acrofales wrote:
And yes, I know that it cannot be a scum ability. I am just wondering whether it can be an ability at all.


I don't need to prove it to acro, but if other people have doubts and I need to resolve them, I can. Would prefer to sit on it though and only use if I take damage and no town source claims it. It's also one reason I'll claim my abilities and role, but not my current HP, so that scum can't know whether I can be taken out within a single cycle.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 05 2012 22:24 GMT
#6568
On December 06 2012 07:13 syllogism wrote:
If austin truly shielded me last cycle, I took 525 damage which seems rather absurd given that there was only one or two mafia still alive. Even during the early cycles mafia never inflicted this much damage and they had S&B's 250 damage hit at their disposal. Difficult to explain how they could have achieved that unless risk is mafia or a third party or two participated in the attack. I guess it's possible that they had double actions due to time period bonus or some ability. Lynch occurs before other actions are processed, so S&B definitely didn't use his action on me.
I didn't shield you last cycle. Last cycle was antiquity, and I can only use my counterattack thing in that era. Last cycle I did nothing.


On December 06 2012 07:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 07:07 Acrofales wrote:
On December 06 2012 07:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
@Acro
Given that I have more than 1 HP (i.e. a little more difficult to kill), are you still against me getting the potential heal from austin? I'll claim my current HP before the deadline if it helps.

If you feel scum would have to put significant effort into killing you, then I think you're a good target for healing by austin.

Okay well the ball's in austin's court anyways.

@austin
This era's ability is already locked in as a heal/shield right? If we went to EoT, you would NOT end up using an HP check, correct?
This era is heal or shield. As long as we stay in 600 or 1000, that's what I have.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 05 2012 22:39 GMT
#6572
On December 06 2012 07:35 iamperfection wrote:
austin your stronger than me why is that?
(1) awwww, you're gonna make me blush
(2) do you even lift, bro?
(3) I don't know, you'd have to ask Grey (I assume he won't answer)

Best guess would be that I can only heal in 2/6 of eras. And if we fight lavos in 1999, then I apparently can't heal or shield or anything during that event, if it's multicycle and only in 1999.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 06 2012 20:34 GMT
#6653
Given this cycle, risk's absence no longer just null. If he had an innocent reason for the heavy inactivity, he could at least drop that or say something other than making promises towards the future.

Middles ages is fine with me. Staying within the 600/1000 band is where I'm most useful, although I don't have anything specific mentioning a rainbow shell or helping to craft anything.

##Lynch: risk.nuke
##Epoch: 600 AD
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 06 2012 21:06 GMT
#6654
I am healing someone tonight. Among a couple targets that were being thrown around, they make sense to me for a few reasons. If you get healed for 150, or maybe for more than 150, please don't claim immediately if I haven't stated what I did yet.

I don't particularly want to chance that someone can mess with my target by knowing who it is.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 06 2012 21:28 GMT
#6659
Draz, when you did you first start talking about the sandwitch, if you remember?

Search doesn't seem to want to pull it up in your filter but I thought I remembered at least something before this last cycle.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 06 2012 21:28 GMT
#6660
nm, found it. sandwhich for anyone searching for earlier mention.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 00:13 GMT
#6709
Oh crap, early post.

I used my heal on iamperfection. Should have healed 150, or topped you off, not 100% sure how much you were missing.

Figured he was a good candidate because: healer, got hit with a roleblock and some damage, posts generally make sense, seems to be thinking about ye olde endgame (as this game appears to have more to it than just eliminating scum faction), scum seems intent on killing syllogism so he hopefully doesn't die overnight. Plus the whole maybe he was out of juice because of low hp bit.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 00:17 GMT
#6712
It says nothing about upgrades. Just a heal or shield in those eras.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 01:37 GMT
#6723
On December 07 2012 10:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
I AM THE KILLER :D

I didnt get damaged in any way, shape or form.
<3 Clarity :D
Scum possibilities are
Z-bo+Austin
Hopeless
Phagga
Adam

Right?

To be clear, you're claiming that you killed Drazerk?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 14:48 GMT
#6778
Wut. This is a bunch of votes. Now I can get lynched in TWO games, joy.


On December 07 2012 23:33 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 15:53 syllogism wrote:
However, 450 is a weird amount of damage to take. Did anyone else target me?

150 damage from risk and 300 from Austin makes sense.

However, that would assume Austin can target whoever he likes (in antiquity at least).

Yes, but I can't. (1) A 300 damage nuke with no restrictions doesn't make sense given what we've seen (Adam gets 200 from guessing, SnB had 250 from knowing a name, risk had some but had to mason the person). (2) Are there any other instances of 300 unclaimed damage? If not, then, assuming I'm scum, why would I only just now have hit someone with that ability?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 14:50 GMT
#6779
As far as the early shields, ask Z-BosoN. I don't know why he'd shield over healing. I can understand it cycle 1, because nobody had taken damage yet, but cycle 2 is odd.

I shielded syllo when I joined because I was in over my head and didn't know who had taken damage and who was townie. Shielding someone who it looked like was agreed upon as proven to be town made sense.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 15:16 GMT
#6783
On December 08 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 23:48 austinmcc wrote:
Wut. This is a bunch of votes. Now I can get lynched in TWO games, joy.


On December 07 2012 23:33 Acrofales wrote:
On December 05 2012 15:53 syllogism wrote:
However, 450 is a weird amount of damage to take. Did anyone else target me?

150 damage from risk and 300 from Austin makes sense.

However, that would assume Austin can target whoever he likes (in antiquity at least).

Yes, but I can't. (1) A 300 damage nuke with no restrictions doesn't make sense given what we've seen (Adam gets 200 from guessing, SnB had 250 from knowing a name, risk had some but had to mason the person). (2) Are there any other instances of 300 unclaimed damage? If not, then, assuming I'm scum, why would I only just now have hit someone with that ability?

Only usable in Antiquity? It's plausible.
Ugh. I go to find another cycle you guys were there before I joined and there wasn't any nuke...but the only cycle that happened in Z-BosoN was MIA so it doesn't show anything.

So my second point isn't what I want it to be.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 15:48 GMT
#6787
On December 08 2012 00:47 iamperfection wrote:
yeah who healed me or who caused me to get healed
wasn't me on N2, just last night.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 16:02 GMT
#6790
On December 08 2012 00:58 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 00:16 austinmcc wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
On December 07 2012 23:48 austinmcc wrote:
Wut. This is a bunch of votes. Now I can get lynched in TWO games, joy.


On December 07 2012 23:33 Acrofales wrote:
On December 05 2012 15:53 syllogism wrote:
However, 450 is a weird amount of damage to take. Did anyone else target me?

150 damage from risk and 300 from Austin makes sense.

However, that would assume Austin can target whoever he likes (in antiquity at least).

Yes, but I can't. (1) A 300 damage nuke with no restrictions doesn't make sense given what we've seen (Adam gets 200 from guessing, SnB had 250 from knowing a name, risk had some but had to mason the person). (2) Are there any other instances of 300 unclaimed damage? If not, then, assuming I'm scum, why would I only just now have hit someone with that ability?

Only usable in Antiquity? It's plausible.
Ugh. I go to find another cycle you guys were there before I joined and there wasn't any nuke...but the only cycle that happened in Z-BosoN was MIA so it doesn't show anything.

So my second point isn't what I want it to be.

Yeah, I thought of this. You claimed future you could nuke and didn't on N3. Problem is that that is the night Marv died, which took a minimum of 550 KP.

Toad was roleblocked, Marv was not in risk's chatroom and I find it highly unlikely that SnB managed to guess Marv's name. That leaves whatever abilities the final scummer has + factional KP.
Any townies want to claim that damage or some of that damage? Z-BosoN didn't take an action Cycle 3.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 16:25 GMT
#6792
On December 08 2012 01:11 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 01:02 austinmcc wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:58 Acrofales wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:16 austinmcc wrote:
On December 08 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
On December 07 2012 23:48 austinmcc wrote:
Wut. This is a bunch of votes. Now I can get lynched in TWO games, joy.


On December 07 2012 23:33 Acrofales wrote:
On December 05 2012 15:53 syllogism wrote:
However, 450 is a weird amount of damage to take. Did anyone else target me?

150 damage from risk and 300 from Austin makes sense.

However, that would assume Austin can target whoever he likes (in antiquity at least).

Yes, but I can't. (1) A 300 damage nuke with no restrictions doesn't make sense given what we've seen (Adam gets 200 from guessing, SnB had 250 from knowing a name, risk had some but had to mason the person). (2) Are there any other instances of 300 unclaimed damage? If not, then, assuming I'm scum, why would I only just now have hit someone with that ability?

Only usable in Antiquity? It's plausible.
Ugh. I go to find another cycle you guys were there before I joined and there wasn't any nuke...but the only cycle that happened in Z-BosoN was MIA so it doesn't show anything.

So my second point isn't what I want it to be.

Yeah, I thought of this. You claimed future you could nuke and didn't on N3. Problem is that that is the night Marv died, which took a minimum of 550 KP.

Toad was roleblocked, Marv was not in risk's chatroom and I find it highly unlikely that SnB managed to guess Marv's name. That leaves whatever abilities the final scummer has + factional KP.
Any townies want to claim that damage or some of that damage? Z-BosoN didn't take an action Cycle 3.


Lets take a different approach. If you are not scum, then who is?
Will go look at the other possibilities.

Seriously though, someone claim that damage?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 16:44 GMT
#6794
On December 08 2012 01:30 Promethelax wrote:
are you asking for the scum to claim their shot?

I know I didn't hit marv. I know that, from looking at the cycle posts, it doesn't seem like people have been getting BLOWN UP. I know syllo got hit for a chunk a few nights back, but there have been a lot of cycles without a death.

We know marv wasn't in risk's tent.
I didn't see anything where snb would know marv's name.

That takes out two big sources of scum damage, yet marv took a boatload. So I'm assuming SOME of that damage came from a town source, because it wasn't me, and that sounds like too much damage to be just scum given the KP we've seen from them.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 07 2012 16:52 GMT
#6797
On December 08 2012 01:47 syllogism wrote:
This applies to a lot of people in the game, but if you are town and want to have other townies believe you are town, it would be helpful if you thought about your role and how you can get most of out of your role. This generally means not role claiming for no reason, not using inferior abilities (75 hp shielding vs 150 hp healing), not forgetting to send in actions and not using abilities that are inherently anti-town (flamethrower in most circumstances).
I can't help you with what Z-BosoN did.

I think you can look at my actions last night and see that I was actually doing this, however. I chose a target based on decent reasons, and it may have paid off if I'm responsible for iamperfection's bonuses. Don't know if it's the time period or the heal.

And whether you believe me or not, I think "maybe I should fire off a 300 nuke when I don't quite know what's going on yet" is also actually considering my role and thinking about what I was doing.

I know that you're not only talking to me here.
Fe fi fo fum.
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