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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
December 03 2012 00:54 GMT
#5821
i actually agree with cave i could see grey easily say something like hey lucca not in the game if you want to sue as fake claim but that doesn't mean hapa.

Did you crumb your name at all hapa?

i did by the way in a very clever way
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 00:55 GMT
#5822
On December 03 2012 09:54 iamperfection wrote:
i actually agree with cave i could see grey easily say something like hey lucca not in the game if you want to sue as fake claim but that doesn't mean hapa.

Did you crumb your name at all hapa?

i did by the way in a very clever way


No I didn't. Why does that matter?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
December 03 2012 00:56 GMT
#5823
On December 03 2012 09:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 09:54 iamperfection wrote:
i actually agree with cave i could see grey easily say something like hey lucca not in the game if you want to sue as fake claim but that doesn't mean hapa.

Did you crumb your name at all hapa?

i did by the way in a very clever way


No I didn't. Why does that matter?

trying to figure out if i believe you or not obviously.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 01:00 GMT
#5824
Yeah but what does that have to do with anything? From what Acro's said earlier, he received a fake-claim as a third party at the beginning of the game no? In addition, given how detailed the claims of flipped mafia players were (i.e. Toad's "Johnny" claim), I'd expect mafia to be similarly equipped.

So bread-crumbing seems irrelevant here, given that it would only prove that I had a fake-claim and not a real one.

However do you really think a heavily-themed CT game would not have one of the main fucking characters in the game as a town role?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 01:02 GMT
#5825
Secondly, I'm still trying to figure out why the hell people were suspicious of me in the first place. There's never been a case for me to respond to beyond Syllo's "someone like hapa must be mafia" and fucking host-errors.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
December 03 2012 01:03 GMT
#5826
On December 03 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote:
However do you really think a heavily-themed CT game would not have one of the main fucking characters in the game as a town role?


theres a lot of "main" characters from what i can tell.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 01:04 GMT
#5827
On December 03 2012 10:03 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote:
However do you really think a heavily-themed CT game would not have one of the main fucking characters in the game as a town role?


theres a lot of "main" characters from what i can tell.


Lucca's a main-main character.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 01:04 GMT
#5828
And for the love of god can someone please make an "argument" about why I'm supposedly "mafia" so I can respond to it and trash it for the retarded argument that it will invariably be?
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
December 03 2012 01:08 GMT
#5829
On December 03 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah but what does that have to do with anything? From what Acro's said earlier, he received a fake-claim as a third party at the beginning of the game no? In addition, given how detailed the claims of flipped mafia players were (i.e. Toad's "Johnny" claim), I'd expect mafia to be similarly equipped.

So bread-crumbing seems irrelevant here, given that it would only prove that I had a fake-claim and not a real one.

However do you really think a heavily-themed CT game would not have one of the main fucking characters in the game as a town role?

Well, I asked for a fake claim on D2 and got one. It wasn't automatically supplied. Also, if you breadcrumb your role D1 then it's usually okayish evidence. You usually only ask for a fakeclaim when you feel the necessity to claim (or you can see it coming) and you have some idea what you want to claim as.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 01:11 GMT
#5830
On December 03 2012 10:08 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah but what does that have to do with anything? From what Acro's said earlier, he received a fake-claim as a third party at the beginning of the game no? In addition, given how detailed the claims of flipped mafia players were (i.e. Toad's "Johnny" claim), I'd expect mafia to be similarly equipped.

So bread-crumbing seems irrelevant here, given that it would only prove that I had a fake-claim and not a real one.

However do you really think a heavily-themed CT game would not have one of the main fucking characters in the game as a town role?

Well, I asked for a fake claim on D2 and got one. It wasn't automatically supplied. Also, if you breadcrumb your role D1 then it's usually okayish evidence. You usually only ask for a fakeclaim when you feel the necessity to claim (or you can see it coming) and you have some idea what you want to claim as.


Oh was it not? Well that sucks then. I never breadcrumb my roles as blues in any game, as I generally dont' plan on getting shot as night as town for host-PM errors.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 01:12 GMT
#5831
Oh scratch that, I've actually breadcrumbed a named-VT role in a previous game, but that's about it. I've also breadcrumbed a mafia role before hehe.
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 03 2012 01:15 GMT
#5832
I'm inclined to believe that Hapa is telling the truth about the host PMs because I trust that Hapa is an honorable player. If he's the kind of person that would lie about something like that to win a game, then fuck that and I'll never play with him again.

I don't necessarily think that he's town again (it's hard to put aside the bias I already have), but the missing heal thing doesn't condemn him to me. I'll have another look through his filter again later, though.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 01:20 GMT
#5833
On December 03 2012 10:15 Keirathi wrote:
I'm inclined to believe that Hapa is telling the truth about the host PMs because I trust that Hapa is an honorable player. If he's the kind of person that would lie about something like that to win a game, then fuck that and I'll never play with him again.

I don't necessarily think that he's town again (it's hard to put aside the bias I already have), but the missing heal thing doesn't condemn him to me. I'll have another look through his filter again later, though.


<3

While you're there, please keep in mind some of my actions this game and see if they make sense from a scum perspective:
1) I was the first player to aggressively contest Toad's candidacy for party leader.
2) I was amongst the first to vote Toad on the D2 lynch (the 2nd player I think) and pushed for his lynch. Does it make sense for mafia to turn down an easy bussing opportunity (Sandro) in order to put heavy suspicion on another scumteam member?
3) Toad claimed to shoot me for 100 damage (BEFORE he gave up on the game and BEFORE Acro's check). If I'm lying about the 100 damage, who else could Toad have plausibly targeted?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
December 03 2012 01:27 GMT
#5834
im inclined to believe hapa and to further test it i say we go to the present.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 01:29 GMT
#5835
Keir: you and I agree on Hapa I see. I still think that the hos error makes him look scummy but I do not belive that he is lying about it and, like you, would probably choose to not play with him again if he is.

Hapa: in an hp game shooting someone for a little is not a bad way of distancing scum from scu. I don't se that as a town tell and I see you not seeing that as slightly scummy. I'm having trouble reading you here because of the contradiction in my gut read on you and my reading read. (scum / null, respectively).

Clarity: the night you claimed 125 damage after my sheild was on you you took 325 but my shield blocked 200. Roleblocks please claim.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
December 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#5836
anyone want to claim the roleblock and 50 damage on me?

+ Show Spoiler +
lets see if this works
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#5837
On December 03 2012 10:29 Promethelax wrote:
Keir: you and I agree on Hapa I see. I still think that the hos error makes him look scummy but I do not belive that he is lying about it and, like you, would probably choose to not play with him again if he is.

Hapa: in an hp game shooting someone for a little is not a bad way of distancing scum from scu. I don't se that as a town tell and I see you not seeing that as slightly scummy. I'm having trouble reading you here because of the contradiction in my gut read on you and my reading read. (scum / null, respectively).

Clarity: the night you claimed 125 damage after my sheild was on you you took 325 but my shield blocked 200. Roleblocks please claim.


Ok ignore the Toad shooting - why would I put such heavy suspicion on Toad and visibly want to lynch him on D2, when Sandroba was an easy bussing option? You're saying that myself (as hypothetical scum), would have turned down an easy lynch in favor of putting suspicion on ANOTHER of my scumbuddies? That makes no sense from a scum-perspective.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 01:34 GMT
#5838
On December 03 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 10:29 Promethelax wrote:
Keir: you and I agree on Hapa I see. I still think that the hos error makes him look scummy but I do not belive that he is lying about it and, like you, would probably choose to not play with him again if he is.

Hapa: in an hp game shooting someone for a little is not a bad way of distancing scum from scu. I don't se that as a town tell and I see you not seeing that as slightly scummy. I'm having trouble reading you here because of the contradiction in my gut read on you and my reading read. (scum / null, respectively).

Clarity: the night you claimed 125 damage after my sheild was on you you took 325 but my shield blocked 200. Roleblocks please claim.


Ok ignore the Toad shooting - why would I put such heavy suspicion on Toad and visibly want to lynch him on D2, when Sandroba was an easy bussing option? You're saying that myself (as hypothetical scum), would have turned down an easy lynch in favor of putting suspicion on ANOTHER of my scumbuddies? That makes no sense from a scum-perspective.


in a normal mafia game that makes no sense. In this one I'm not so sure, getting major distance from each other and leading/getting into parties seems like the way for mafia to win.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#5839
Also Promethelax - you always "gut read" me as scum, even when I'm blitheringly obviously town (i.e. GSL III Mini). Drop the gut read and look through my filter.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 01:36 GMT
#5840
On December 03 2012 10:34 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 03 2012 10:29 Promethelax wrote:
Keir: you and I agree on Hapa I see. I still think that the hos error makes him look scummy but I do not belive that he is lying about it and, like you, would probably choose to not play with him again if he is.

Hapa: in an hp game shooting someone for a little is not a bad way of distancing scum from scu. I don't se that as a town tell and I see you not seeing that as slightly scummy. I'm having trouble reading you here because of the contradiction in my gut read on you and my reading read. (scum / null, respectively).

Clarity: the night you claimed 125 damage after my sheild was on you you took 325 but my shield blocked 200. Roleblocks please claim.


Ok ignore the Toad shooting - why would I put such heavy suspicion on Toad and visibly want to lynch him on D2, when Sandroba was an easy bussing option? You're saying that myself (as hypothetical scum), would have turned down an easy lynch in favor of putting suspicion on ANOTHER of my scumbuddies? That makes no sense from a scum-perspective.


in a normal mafia game that makes no sense. In this one I'm not so sure, getting major distance from each other and leading/getting into parties seems like the way for mafia to win.


Boy do you have your conspiracy-theory thinking cap on.
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