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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 00:49 GMT
#4367
I guess that makes more sense now*
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 01:44 GMT
#4396
On November 28 2012 10:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 10:29 iamperfection wrote:
On November 28 2012 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
My activity is going to be spotty for at least a week...is that what you're asking? I don't know how long this game is going to last, but I'll be posting at full strength after next weekend. In the meantime I'll post what I can when I can and make no promises.

Did you need something in particular iamp?

No, not really.

Just hoping to see more ve


I know and I'm kinda fucking salty that this RL bullshit happened AS SOON as my slot opened in this game - I'm a TL Resistance veteran and was all like, planning on campaign posters for trying to be leader and shit...but my activity has made it to where I'm not just not going to be considered for leader, I'm not even going to be PART OF THE TEAM most of the time based solely on my inactivity.

Life isn't fair. We do what we can. I hope to make up for being a total failure in that regard by finding some of the scum for if/when we get a lynch again. Stay tuned.

As long as you promise that scumhunting does not entail starting a shitfest bitchfight with Toad, I am totally onboard with that plan. Your absence has been rather troubling. You are hard to read even when posting proliferously and while killing all scum is clearly not town's wincon, I don't doubt that killing Lavos is going to be one helluva lot easier with all scum dead. If that means getting to a lynch with no clear scum reads, lynching inactives is a pretty good policy imho.

Of course, I do have scumreads to go on. I will have to reevaluate H1's filter and risk.nuke has meandered onto my scumdar, so have to take a good look at him too. I think you'd be a good person to ask about risk.nuke. You should have plenty of history together?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 01:47 GMT
#4397
PS. Your plan for using events to scumhunt is terrible. I'm fairly certain the OP is not lying when it says that failing an event is bad for town.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 03:19 GMT
#4409
@Kita: when someone non-3P wants me to claim I will still say no. You are at the top of my list of the reasons I didn't fully claim. Like hell I am going to claim.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 03:25 GMT
#4411
Do you think I'm scum?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 03:38 GMT
#4413
On November 28 2012 12:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 12:25 Acrofales wrote:
Do you think I'm scum?


I think there is no reason to trust your promise that you have the town's best interest in mind.

Look at me caring. I don't trust that town has my best interest in mind. How about we all look out for ourselves and when town beats Lavos and I survive we can go our own ways. Deal?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 03:39 GMT
#4414
Oh, and I do think Marv was onto something when he called you for being 3P. You can bitch and moan that in other games you were called 3P, but in this game you have done jack shit. I have done more for this town than you and you have the nerve to try to order me about.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 03:42 GMT
#4416
On November 28 2012 12:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 12:38 Acrofales wrote:
On November 28 2012 12:30 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 28 2012 12:25 Acrofales wrote:
Do you think I'm scum?


I think there is no reason to trust your promise that you have the town's best interest in mind.

Look at me caring. I don't trust that town has my best interest in mind. How about we all look out for ourselves and when town beats Lavos and I survive we can go our own ways. Deal?


Who's your fake claim?

Jessica Rabbit.


Oh no, wait. That was last game.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 03:45 GMT
#4417
Tell me again why you think my fake claim will do town any good at all. I asked Greymist specifically for a fakeclaim that made sense with my actual role. It's not as if scum can use it. But if they ever try to, I'll be happy to point out my bread crumb (happy hunting).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 03:55 GMT
#4419
On November 28 2012 12:52 kitaman27 wrote:
In the event that you are mafia, revealing the fake claim means that the mafia team would have one claim to work with late game.

meh I guess if you're not going to cooperate, we just deal with you accordingly after Toad.

Or maybe you're in fact scum having the trouble that you don't know which claim on your list will be counterclaimed. It's amazing that you seem MORE interested in my fake claim than my real claim.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 03:56 GMT
#4420
On November 28 2012 12:52 kitaman27 wrote:
In the event that you are mafia, revealing the fake claim means that the mafia team would have one claim to work with late game.

meh I guess if you're not going to cooperate, we just deal with you accordingly after Toad.

Oh, and I'm not mafia. Stop being retarded.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 04:38 GMT
#4425
There was still no anti-town check. There was a parity check with someone whose alignment I don't know. You claiming you DO know H1's alignment?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#4443
On November 28 2012 21:38 Mementoss wrote:
3

Well, that blew my theory out of the water.

Difference between numbers (in hours):

10
12
14
11
15
9
12.5

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 12:53 GMT
#4445
On November 28 2012 20:59 CaveJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 18:28 syllogism wrote:
Thanks, that is actually helpful. Do you have any idea what Acro's role is, based on your role?


It sounds like a clone of mine just with supportive abilities rather than offensive abilities I know mine is balanced VIA my HP so I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't take much to kill Acro if you want to remove him from the game.

Also no idea where the 1 came from probably a fizzled attack or something.

My HP is rather high, actually. Probably has something to do with the third party aspect of my role. Would suck to be a survivor with a wet paper bag as defense.

Also, I doubt most of my abilities are "supportive". The abilities I suspect of being heals are not based on their name, it's based on the fact that I can only cast them on me. I have 2 abilities I think might be helpful to town... but they might equally well backfire in your face if I try to use them, just as the bit where I tried to mason people did.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 12:54 GMT
#4446
On November 28 2012 21:48 CaveJohnson wrote:
Its far too soon to be Lavos... Although it could be the ocean palace Lavos fight which is essentially unwinnable.

I agree. Unless the "or all scum is dead" is a giant troll in Greymist's OP.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 13:00 GMT
#4447
On November 28 2012 21:53 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 20:59 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 28 2012 18:28 syllogism wrote:
Thanks, that is actually helpful. Do you have any idea what Acro's role is, based on your role?


It sounds like a clone of mine just with supportive abilities rather than offensive abilities I know mine is balanced VIA my HP so I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't take much to kill Acro if you want to remove him from the game.

Also no idea where the 1 came from probably a fizzled attack or something.

My HP is rather high, actually. Probably has something to do with the third party aspect of my role. Would suck to be a survivor with a wet paper bag as defense.

Also, I doubt most of my abilities are "supportive". The abilities I suspect of being heals are not based on their name, it's based on the fact that I can only cast them on me. I have 2 abilities I think might be helpful to town... but they might equally well backfire in your face if I try to use them, just as the bit where I tried to mason people did.

That came out wrong. Except for the self-targeting stuff, and the abilities I have that probably help me fulfill my second wincon, there are 2 abilities that might be heals or damage prevention things that I can use on other people, but they might equally well be nukes. I have no idea what my shit does.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 13:20 GMT
#4449
On November 28 2012 22:11 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 21:46 Acrofales wrote:
On November 28 2012 21:38 Mementoss wrote:
3

Well, that blew my theory out of the water.

Difference between numbers (in hours):

10
12
14
11
15
9
12.5



my guess is that it's relayed to the number of posts in the thread ^^
I do not want to count though

Then how did Hassy know beforehand that he would have to post his post at 20:00?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 13:39 GMT
#4452
+ Show Spoiler [exercise in futility] +

Timestamps:
10:05
20:00 +10 / 595
07:59 +12 / 719 +2 / +124
21:52 +14 / 833 +2 / +114
09:06 +11 / 674 -3 / - 159
23:54 +15 / 888 +4 / +214
09:11 +09 / 557 -6 / -331
21:38 +13 / 747 +4 / -190

Given the timestamps, the difference between them and the difference of differences.

Alphabet? Assuming 0 = A?

K:F
U:A
H:H
V:A
J:G
X:C
J:L
V:M
This is complete jibberish and is jibberish under any rotational encryption as well.

Interpreting as numbers I also don't see anyting useful
1005
2000 + 995
759 - 1241 - 2236
2152 +1393 +2634
906 - 1246 - 2639
2354 +1448 +2694
911 - 1443 - 2891
2138 +1227 +2670

I tried analyzing them in a number of different ways and I see no pattern or hidden message. That leads me to conclude that it's one of three things:
1. I am too dumb to decypher this shit,
2. they are simply roughly every 12 hours, depending on when the hosts have time and they are too lazy to tell us that they should be every 12 hours since the Day 2 action deadline, or
3. this has to be something to do with someone's role. Given that nobody has claimed any knowledge of these numbers, I suspect scum or another 3rd party.

I don't like calling myself dumb, so my intuition says either 2 or 3. Maybe it's the impact of Lavos? In the game you don't actually fight Lavos when he crashes into the planet in prehistory.

However, that means we are skipping the entire part where we have to make Masamune and fight Magus.

##get on dactyl and fly away from Tyranno Lair
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 14:08 GMT
#4458
On November 23 2012 07:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Unvote: Syllogism
##Vote: Hopeless1der


Things and such.

On November 23 2012 07:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
But I want to play setup explorer instead

On November 23 2012 09:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 09:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 23 2012 09:06 Adam4167 wrote:
In regards to my post to kita, I think it stands fine as it is. I am trying to figure out what the hell he is doing, because he claims to want to be taken seriously, but then posts a page of 'joke' reads and then campaigns as if they're perfectly acceptable. I am trying to ascertain if he is just goofing around, and I should ignore him, or if hes intentionally posting more garbage into this thread, something I think we can do without.


I had one joke post and one joke read on risk. That's like 5% of my posts, yet you've brought it up three different times. Is this really your biggest concern.

I nominate Cave as an alternative to sandroba (I'm still in favor of a sandroba lynch while he continues to be afk, and likely even after he returns)

On November 23 2012 02:46 CaveJohnson wrote:
I blame Acro for this post but apparently my posting is too unique it doesn't work anyway and I feel I need to explain a few things to keep Acro / S+B being murdered because they know me too well.

I claim Drazerk the Invoker Chef


I prepare dishes far and wide and have learnt techniques lost in time. I have 27 1 time use abilities and 1 multiple use ability but I can't use any if I go on a mission. So far I know 2 of my abilities (THEY ARE SO GOOOOOOOD) and can gain the knowledge of 2 more each cycle (although I can technically use any ability without knowing what it does but I'm not that insane).

My success modifier is 4 which is too low to justify not using either of my 2 abilities I already have.

Also I still dislike Marv / DJ and I think any votes for Syllo is a vote wasted. However there is at least 1 third party in the game judging by my flavour (I can handle them myself before you ask).

Now to read what I've missed.


He's clearly lying about his success modifier. It's a hidden value and he has no benchmark to lead him to believe 4 is a high number. He isn't keeping up with the thread. He's likely lying about his role and has a history of lying about his role. For whatever reason, he claims to think he would be a likely roleblock target. He has a history of never contributing in any game he has ever played in (and I mean that in the nicest of ways <3)

Is he scum though? If it is draz, (and I have limited first hand experience) he does this kind of shit regardless. I'd rather not lynch him. I need to read sandroba, but before anything else, I cite his Looney Lynching play as exhibit A on why lack of activity =\= scum sandroba. His interactions with syllo on the other hand...well I'm going to go look into that one.

My setup exploration was unproductive by the way.

What were you expecting/hoping would happen? Why would 1 person (you) voting for yourself have any influence on anything?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18154 Posts
November 28 2012 14:35 GMT
#4460
Okay, I have read through Hopeless1der's filter quite carefully. I am no longer convinced he's scum. I still have my crazy role speculation for Toad, but that is about all I can find in his filter. He has been obviously blatantly WRONG on pretty much every occasion he got. His last few days have been filled with talking about himself rather than playing the game productively. But he seems more engaged than in Acme.

Here is what I am speculating about Toad, and why it makes H1 scum:
+ Show Spoiler [speculation] +

Premise: Hopeless1der's vote on Toad for D3 makes no fucking sense at all. Toad's insistence on needing votes felt strange to me, regardless of his alignment. Then it clicked. Queen Zeal -> Drama Queen. A role made for Toad.

Also:
On November 23 2012 00:48 Toadesstern wrote:

<snip>
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:33 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:30 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
[quote]
What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.

dude I just answered that with the post you quoted...
Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else.

Okay, let me rephrase:

Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well).

Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process?

nope


I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say?

Why do you want this, Toad?

I still need to find the guy I want to vote for.

Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros.
Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine.
Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.

That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to?


Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.

If you still need to find a guy you want to vote for, why have you made a placeholder vote? In your first post of the game you said you would only be voting for someone you definitely had a townread on.

Your play definitely needs emphasizing because it is out of character for you and it is quite important to know why.

Okay marv. How many games did we play together? Tell me just one game in which I don't do things with lacking reasoning to get some reactions.
I mean I wouldn't put it that way:
Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.
because that's hardly the intention but I'm doing that literally every single game.
Hence my suprise about why you're so puzzled of all people.

Oh god, is this Toad the drama queen feeling unloved because he didn't get elected party leader, so will now throw a temper tantrum by playing badly until the rest of town listens to him?

Dude, if you knew :p
I'm going to run to leader every single day from now on. I have to, it's my nature

Toad reacting weirdly to my drama queen poke.

This makes me think the drama queen bit is real and Toad needs a vote every day. This may be in return for a powerful night role, or I am going to speculate even further with a bit of Caller logic here: Drazerk needed to NOT get a vote to be lynch immune in HRM. This is a reversed role, he can only be lynched by nobody voting for him at all. Now I don't think we should put this to the test: if Toad is alive the next lynch day, we lynch the crap out of him.

However, it makes sense of Hopeless1der's vote, which is otherwise mindboggling. H1 being Toad's scumbuddy wants to keep Toad alive as long as possible. Toad actually DOES need a vote. Either to prevent 500 damage, or to prevent immediate death. Townies are unlikely to vote for Toad ever again, so it falls to his scumbuddies to do so. H1 is the one to vote.

Note that if Queen Zeal is not what I think it is, then all of this is nonsense.
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