EPTWhat I am FAR more interested in is knowing why Iamperfection thought Hapa would need healing D1.
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What I am FAR more interested in is knowing why Iamperfection thought Hapa would need healing D1. | ||
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On November 28 2012 01:39 risk.nuke wrote: If you're third party and you're good for town why don't you want to say what you want to do, you're asking us to trust you leaving you alive is in towns best interest. What third party have 1-shot cop. I can't say what I need to do, because anybody with Chrono Trigger lore knowledge will probably be able to figure out who I am. As there's probably mechanisms to prevent that from being a good idea, you'll just have to trust me. Have I given you any reason not to trust me? | ||
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On November 28 2012 01:41 syllogism wrote: If you are a third party and there is someone out to get you, I can assure you what you said is already sufficient. It's not like they have someone else to target, so these excuses about wanting to hide your identity seem a bit thin based on what you said. We'll see, won't we. I see no reason to put myself at more risk than I have to. The 3P was already pretty obvious, so that increases no further risk to me. My identity, however, is something that could very well be used against me. Anyway, my name is pointless. Greymist was happy to supply me with a fakeclaim, so it'll still be up to you to figure out whether I'm telling the truth. I decided not to use the fakeclaim and just tell the truth. But that doesn't mean I want to claim my real name. So in short, to anybody saying I should claim: I'll be the judge of that and I say no. Go suck it. | ||
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On November 28 2012 01:46 risk.nuke wrote: Lets put it this way, If you were third party who's objective would hurt town. Would you claim that or something in the lines of what you just did? I would lie my ass off. However, I would probably not be leaking 3rd party on all sides. I am a better player than that and you should know it. I played the way I did precisely because I am helping town. If you have any specific accusations, go ahead and make them. | ||
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On November 28 2012 02:26 risk.nuke wrote: You were suspected as scum even with the play you've played. Playing worse might had gotten you lynched already. You're asking us to trust you but you should understand there is no way that's going to happen. Really? I was in danger of being lynched? I want some of what you're smoking. Votes on Acro D2: 0. People who wanted to take me to the prom D3: 2 claimed before I put an end to it. The next lynch is pretty much locked in on Toad, so I didn't have to fear that either. When exactly was I in ANY danger of being lynched?! I was clearly suspected of being scum. Only person who even voiced that was Syllo and he said it without having read my filter. Stop throwing suspicion around unwarranted. Anyway, who said that I would have played WORSE? I would probably have played a lot SAFER. Like, I would not have looked so ridiculously townie that people wanted to take me along for the ride on D3, forcing me to claim I didn't want to. So. Why are you misrepresenting what happened just to be suspicious of me? In fact, what have you DONE this game? Are you the guy who has to kill me? | ||
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Don't heal me, don't take me along on parties. Hell, you can even ignore all the help I give in scumhunting. Just don't go out of your way to kill me, because it is 1. a complete waste of your resources (this goes for town or scum) and 2. fucks me over for no reason whatsoever. | ||
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All other information is unconfirmed and there is nothing we can do with it anyway, because we don't have a lynch. One thing I can tell you is that Greymist seems not to expect this game to go past 9 cycles, as I have 9 1-shot spells to use. | ||
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On November 28 2012 03:03 TheChronicler wrote: Someone has to kill you and you claimed? How about you read my claim. It's explained there. /VERY tired of people not reading the thread. | ||
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On November 28 2012 03:09 phagga wrote: Acro: why exactly do you think that there cannot be a cycle where you do not have an ability to use? It's possible, but I think it would make my role rather boring after 9 cycles. Anyway, 9 cycles is a long time away. | ||
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Any other ideas for the countdown and the weird time between the numbers? I tried looking at the timestamps as numbers rather than times and that made no sense either. I can't think of a reason for posting a countdown unless we are supposed to react to it in some way. | ||
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On November 28 2012 03:30 TheChronicler wrote: Are you referring to this part of your claim? "because I suspect there are other people out there who have to kill me" I'm not seeing what you could be referring to otherwise, and I still don't understand why you claimed. You say the cat was out of the bag, but it was all speculation. The cat WAS out of the bag. Speculation or not, there were at least 3 people thinking I was 3P. Scumteam probably already had it figured even earlier. Djodref basically phrased his question oddly, but he did ask me whether I was 3P. Saying no would have made things worse if I ever have to claim in the future, which was looking increasingly likely with the parity check. The parity check alone also weighed in on my decision. Better to claim 3P now and get that evidence off the table against Hopeless1der. I think he's scum. I think he should be killed. But I don't want people killing him because of your check, and I definitely don't want people going after ME if he were to flip town. Claiming 3P afterwards would have looked terrible. "Scum trying to get out of being lynched" would be the first thing that would come to my mind if I were townie having mislynched one side of a parity check. I really want that excuse out of the way. Also, go ahead and check me against Toad if you don't believe me. I would be much obliged. | ||
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On November 28 2012 03:41 Hopeless1der wrote: Well either no one knows, or the select few don't want us to know. If it is the Golem Overlord, he's just going to flee anyways so we don't need to worry about it. Other countdowns include the Guardian from Arris Dome (2300AD), Azala+BlackTyrano (65000000BC) and Rust Tyrano (600AD) Want to try whatever you think is effective against them? ##kill Guardian body Haven't gotten to the other boss fights yet, so no clue what to do in the cooldown  | ||
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On November 28 2012 03:52 Hopeless1der wrote: Acro, if you explained why you thought your N1 action would cause masonry, would you be revealing your role? No. Actually the name of the ability made me think it didn't, but I asked Greymist about another ability name I have which makes no sense lorewise and he told me he simply ran out of names. The reason I thought it caused a mason chat is because it targeted 3 people. With Aperture (and its various communication channels) in the back of my mind, I hoped for a mason chat. | ||
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On November 28 2012 03:52 Hapahauli wrote: I think Toad fits a 3rd party read to a T. The guy is incredibly active, and largely pro-town, with some slightly "off" things in his filter. That's a really classic example of a third party. But since we all think that Toad is 99.9% scum, consider this: Acro was the first person to build a significant case and push Toad's lynch. On top of this, he did this on D2, when Sandroba was the consensus lynch. There is no conceivable way that Scum would turn down an easy bussing opportunity to bus another of their teammates. Makes no damn sense from a mafia perspective. Herpaderp. PARITY CHECK. SAME as Sandroba. | ||
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On November 28 2012 03:42 Keirathi wrote: Hey, you forgot about me!  In all seriousness, I'm not really sure what to do about you. I mentioned the things I found off about your play this game to Hapa. And third party could definitely explain them. My problem, of course, is that so could scum. In a game with a limited amount of lynches, as it seems, third party survivor makes a ton of sense for scum to fake-claim. Anyways, does your role PM specifically mention someone "hunting" you, so to speak? If so, why the hell did you claim at all? If not, why is your default assumption that there is someone looking for you? My role PM does not mention someone hunting me. Common sense tells me there's probably someone hunting me to prevent me from just roleclaiming in my first post. | ||
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On November 28 2012 03:59 TheChronicler wrote: You bemoan me for not reading when I did read while you haven't read anything I've written :/ I still don't think you should have claimed. Your confirm red check should never have been claimed, and your claim just now never should have happened. Toad is the very clear next lynch, there isn't any REAL pressure on you for at least two cycles (that's on the assumption of two lynches consecutively) and on top of this no scum in their right mind would kill you while there's that much suspicion on you so you don't even have to worry about that (which you clearly weren't anyways). I just don't get it. So, you think I played suboptimally. /shrug. | ||
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On November 28 2012 04:04 Hapahauli wrote: @ Acro I"m curious, do you think risk is scum? I'm generally worried about going after "lynch-bait" type players, but his play does seem genuinely scummy, especially weighing his crazier//less-consistent town games. I will have to read his filter with more care before I make any definite statement about him. I have had reservations about him for a while, but he was in the "null" list until he reacted really weirdly to my claim. His reaction seems really weird for town. Honestly, I don't feel like adding more suspects to the table right now. It's getting to the point where it's counterproductive, because there is no way of verifying for a long time, which increases paranoia and speculation. I definitely wouldn't trust risk at the moment. | ||
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I have to admit that I have payed little attention to Hapa this game. I was on high alert D1 when he suddenly went nuts and wanted to run for leader at the last moment. I then reread him to see if I wanted to lynch him and decided I didn't. I dismissed him as someone to be figured out later. That later has not yet happened. | ||
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