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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 13:31 GMT
#3630
Oh, and completely unrelated to this game at all: I am even more impressed by good Cachaça now. No hangover!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 13:57 GMT
#3638
On November 26 2012 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 22:51 Promethelax wrote:
Marv: why would scum put up their (presumably) three best players as candidates day 1? That is Sand, Toad and Kita.


oh yeah. that does sound kinda unlikely.

On the other hand: why not?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 14:01 GMT
#3641
On November 26 2012 22:58 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 26 2012 22:57 Acrofales wrote:
On November 26 2012 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2012 22:51 Promethelax wrote:
Marv: why would scum put up their (presumably) three best players as candidates day 1? That is Sand, Toad and Kita.


oh yeah. that does sound kinda unlikely.

On the other hand: why not?


I understand running 2, because you can try to consolidate behind the 1 who looks more likely. 3 seems like spreading yourself too thin.

Oh, I can see it happening. They are all strong players who are expected to run.

Not that I feel Kita is scum, I still don't see a scum motivation behind his play, and 3P is more likely. I just don't feel that 3 scum running for the position is weird. Particularly because Toad was the last to jump in and Toad will always want attention.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 14:18 GMT
#3649
On November 26 2012 23:13 Promethelax wrote:
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On November 26 2012 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:03 Promethelax wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
I can see it happening, but on the balance of probability I would presume not. And that's what I usually work with.


so kita=/=scum, Kita=3p in your mind?


yeah, 3rd party is my best guess. And unlike some other people I don't throw it around lightly (too many 3rd party reads in this game). My last two 3rd party reads (rock band, liquid city) have been bang on.



you were scum in LC but you were magical town jailer of doom in Rockband so I'll accept that.

Kita: name claim please?

What do you feel Kita's claim will do for town at the moment?

PS. What changed all of a sudden that you are here to micromanage the game (your normal playstyle)?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 14:40 GMT
#3665
On November 26 2012 23:30 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 26 2012 23:28 Djodref wrote:
Ok guys, just a quick comment regarding the last developments of the thread, I find that Prome is getting way too much heat for the all the role-related stuff. Arguments like "your role is imb4 for town, you must be scum" are wrong, just plain wrong.
Never trust Grey, right ?
Moreover, the events corroborate the story. So I don't see why we should doubt this at this point.

Regarding Acro, I personally think that he is taking too much heat, even if not wanting to be in the party seems suspicious at first sight. I would say it's role or ability related (his own ability or targeted by another player). And like, there are players whose behavior is not acceptable at all.

For example, let's say that Toad, VE, Adam and S&B are the mafia players left. They would have nothing do to and could just watch the town atmosphere rotten. There are too many damn lurkers and I hate this because we have nothing for or against them !

Anyway, I have decided to step up and I'm going to officially announce that I'm going to inflict some damage tonight, and it's going to be one player among iamp, S&B, VE and Adam. I have not been using this since the beginning of this game so it's gonna hurt. Be warned.

I would like anyone who is pissed off by their attitude (seriously Adam, you and your "I'm lurking and I assume" attitude, I hope that you are going to die tonight), to join me and to inflict some damage on these players. I'm on this for real and I would guess that some other players would have no problem to join me as well
Any ability you have to pressure the fucking lurkers (ie not using against the mafia), just use it against them, for the future sake of the town and also to teach them how to play.

Who is in ?


please don't hit s&b, I've metad him town for the moment.


That's confusing. I'd like to think I know S&B about as well as the next guy, but he's still completely null to me. On the other hand, I have a slight meta town read on Adam.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 14:54 GMT
#3672
Adam meta:

Scum in LVI, town in Whose line is it.

As scum he is far less cocky.

As I said at the start of the game, though, my experience playing with Adam as either alignment is that he lurks the crap out of the thread and gets modkilled for inactivity.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 15:01 GMT
#3676
Imho Iamperfection is still by far the scummiest lurkers out of the lurking lot. Maybe Drazerk, but I'm biased because since HRM it is my mission in any mafia game to kill Drazerk.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 15:09 GMT
#3680
Oh wait, I forgot VE. A silent VE is something I don't know. It is very wrong. Combine that with BioSC's total lack of commitment to the game and I would absolutely agree with VE getting shot in the face. He's hard to read even when he's participating in the game. This is just terrible.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 15:30 GMT
#3687
On November 27 2012 00:14 iamperfection wrote:
I agree with you on VE he never is quiet from what i remember.

It's an enigma. He obviously can't throw the whole hissyfit dealio with Toad again, because nobody would believe him, but he has disappeared off the face of the earth after being really enthusiastic in the signup thread and sounding pretty bumbed about not getting in.

All VE has done this game is to vote Sandroba, with a fairly bland justification (basically saying sheeping Syllo is good) and give a blurb about how Hapa is scum. I especially like this post here:
On November 26 2012 00:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm back!

It's obviously too late to run for leader, unfortunately...but I'm reading what I missed now and I'll be back with thoughts soon.

We're now 24 hours later, that makes him king of the lurkers.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 15:46 GMT
#3700
On November 27 2012 00:43 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 00:39 marvellosity wrote:
On November 27 2012 00:35 Djodref wrote:
On November 27 2012 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 27 2012 00:14 iamperfection wrote:
I agree with you on VE he never is quiet from what i remember.

It's an enigma. He obviously can't throw the whole hissyfit dealio with Toad again, because nobody would believe him, but he has disappeared off the face of the earth after being really enthusiastic in the signup thread and sounding pretty bumbed about not getting in.

All VE has done this game is to vote Sandroba, with a fairly bland justification (basically saying sheeping Syllo is good) and give a blurb about how Hapa is scum. I especially like this post here:
On November 26 2012 00:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm back!

It's obviously too late to run for leader, unfortunately...but I'm reading what I missed now and I'll be back with thoughts soon.

We're now 24 hours later, that makes him king of the lurkers.


From all I know, I was lurking as shit when we played scum together in the Looney Game when he replaced Hiro.
I could hit VE, but I could aslo hit Adam or iamp or S&B. One of them is going to regret for not having contributed.


we want to hit scum, not non-contributing townies.


I don't want to target Toad tonight for the reason that the mafia knows he is going to be targeted. Who should I hit according to you ?
By the way, how do you know they are town ?

And if you have a better idea to force them to contribute, I'm open to discuss about that problem, because it's going to be a problem on the long term. If you fail to do this, I'm shooting one of them.

I think he's trying to say that you should shoot a lurker who you think is probably scum, and not a lurker who you are just angry with for not participating in the game.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 15:54 GMT
#3705
On November 27 2012 00:41 CaveJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 00:01 Acrofales wrote:
Imho Iamperfection is still by far the scummiest lurkers out of the lurking lot. Maybe Drazerk, but I'm biased because since HRM it is my mission in any mafia game to kill Drazerk.


I can tell... Notice how even SnB hasn't acted against me?

I thought I'd bring it up to you since you know our relationship a little too well

Of course I know our relationship well. If you recall Bastard 2 I very very very nearly shot you in the face with my vig shot, but I didn't think you were scum and decided to play to my wincon rather than personal satisfaction. In Caller's game you might recall that SnB were scum and I'm not sure the scum QT was ever posted, but we were both pretty damned happy to get to shoot you in the face. It definitely didn't help my feeling of vengeance that you had a double vig shot that night that you used to take us out, basically based on shit-and-giggles: you never had a scumread, you just knew we weren't in your particular team of slavs.

Nevertheless, this game I have no clue what you are. I don't honestly think you'd be the best vig shot tonight, but I really wouldn't object to you dying.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 16:02 GMT
#3710
On November 27 2012 01:01 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 00:56 marvellosity wrote:
On November 27 2012 00:54 Djodref wrote:
@Acro and marv

Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.

My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ?


I know precisely who I would shoot but I'm not sure how much you want me to give you one name.


Ok, so let's discuss then. Let's make some charades
If I was crazy and raging and about to use my full force against VE. What could you say to me to prevent me from committing this crime, assuming you are having a soft spot (ie town read or at least non-scum read) for him ?

/looks at acting.

Hot air balloon!

Am I right?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 16:17 GMT
#3716
On November 27 2012 01:06 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 01:02 Acrofales wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:01 Djodref wrote:
On November 27 2012 00:56 marvellosity wrote:
On November 27 2012 00:54 Djodref wrote:
@Acro and marv

Sorry for the fail post. Please also understand that I'm pissed off right now.

My wording was wrong, sorry for that. I didn't want to sound dumb like that. I really would like us to discuss another method for pressuring them and force them to contribute. This is my main goal here.
But I'm seriously going to shoot one of them, and you can ostracize me for this later if you want. So why shouldn't we discuss who has the most chances to flip scum among them ?


I know precisely who I would shoot but I'm not sure how much you want me to give you one name.


Ok, so let's discuss then. Let's make some charades
If I was crazy and raging and about to use my full force against VE. What could you say to me to prevent me from committing this crime, assuming you are having a soft spot (ie town read or at least non-scum read) for him ?

/looks at acting.

Hot air balloon!

Am I right?


What do you mean ? I have some difficulties to understand idioms sometimes ^^
More seriously, do you have anything to say in VE's defense ?


It was a joke. You wanted to play charades

Anyway, I obviously have absolutely nothing to say in VE's defense. See a few posts up in my filter what I think of VE.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 16:38 GMT
#3720
I decided I hate Prom and Iamperfection for hiding obvious crumbs to things that I don't understand.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 17:02 GMT
#3726
On November 27 2012 02:01 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 00:35 Toadesstern wrote:
##vote Toadesstern
:3


I don't know why I laughed out loud at this, but I did.

Come on back now, ya hear. Talk to us.

Wy do you want hypnotoad the 99% confirmed scum to come back?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 18:00 GMT
#3738
I agree that someone needs to make an argument for Clarity's towniness. I myself have a number of people I would prefer to have included ahead of Clarity. Particularly Djodref has been throwing me town vibes in spades, and TC's parity cop check feels 100% townie to me, even if I had my reservations before. I am back to TC being town.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 19:40 GMT
#3756
Ugh, I almost posted my speculation just to stop you people from getting all cozy with Hopeless1der, but suffice it to say, I have really talked myself into believing my crazy role speculation for Toad. It's something Drazerk would really really like. Anyway, I wrote the post and have it stored in a text file. I see no reason that it is useful to the thread now, but I honestly think Hopeless1der is far more likely to be scum if Toad is scum, and particularly Queen Zeal, than if Toad is town. Plus, if Toad is town then I am fucked, and Chronicler probably too.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 19:45 GMT
#3757
On November 27 2012 04:21 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 27 2012 04:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 27 2012 04:10 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Hopeless

Huh? What does that have to do with anything?

Toad needs to flip Queen Zeal specifically, or Acro was misinformed in some way.


Uh yeah, well that much is obvious. But even then, that doesn't say much about Acro really.

Well, it does. It says I was right. Whether that is right, because I checked him with my DT ability, or right because I am Toad's scumbuddy I'll leave for you people to figure out. I would like to point out my D2 behaviour. Takes a special kind of conspiracy for scum to try to move the lynch from one of his scumbuddies onto another of his scumbuddies. Have fun.

Lets first kill Toad, though, and show the world that I was, in fact, right.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 26 2012 22:07 GMT
#3772
On November 27 2012 07:06 Clarity_nl wrote:
This is ridiculous. I can only imagine how much effort went into creating and hosting this game and some people just don't give a shit.

Agreed.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
November 27 2012 00:49 GMT
#3849
On November 27 2012 09:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
TC has claimed Acro and I are opposite alignments. AT LEAST one of them is scum to me. I think its more likely to be Acro. I know we don't want to lose the event and that I'm probably considered more likely to be scum than TC or Acro, but I'd like to be on the party for the sake of "proving" I'm town.

Dafuq?

Like seriously. DAFUQ? I cannot get my head around how mindblowingly stupid this post is.

1. OPPOSITE alignment. Unless you have reason to believe there are 2 scumteams, that means 1 of us is town, the other scum OR 1 of us is town, the other 3rd party, OR 1 of us is scum and the other 3rd party. It *might* be possible for 2 third parties to be considered "opposite alignment". No clue on the specifics there. So no, there is AT MOST 1 scum between you and me. For the record, that scum is you.

2. You think? Really? I KNOW I'm not scum. I don't have to "think that it may perhaps be slightly more likely that I am not scum", because I fucking know it. This overly cautious phrasing is you claiming scum, because you cannot figure out a town mindset.

3. Yeah, trolololol. Lets fail the event, because Hopeless1derp wants to "prove" he's town. Once again, thinking like a townie? Failed. Miserably I might add.

Verdict: scum

PS. The failure to think like a townie is what I caught this guy on in Acme, so it even fits his meta.
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