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On November 21 2012 15:15 Blazinghand wrote: to be fair, if you ignore the utter lack of scumhunting, djodref hasn't been so bad about scumhunting
What the fuck?
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On November 21 2012 15:10 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 14:45 Djodref wrote:On November 21 2012 14:15 DarthPunk wrote: also his vote was parked uselessly day one on the wagon scum were pushing. i.e. ME. @ DarthPunkDo you plan to write a meta case against me or you don't think it is necessary ? I personally don't use meta but you do so I would appreciate to see what you can bring against me. Here are the links for my previous games. @ DarthPunkWell, it's not a big deal for me because I know I am town and my whole setup speculation setup ordeal should have been able to solve us the game without scumhunting. I'm sorry if I have preferred a pure logical way to solve this game to the hard way (i.e. going through >150 pages of posts). I'm pretty sure that the last scum would be forced to concede right now if we could have one or two more confirmed townies. It has turned out to backfire at me because debears had most likely a check on Hopeless who is already confirmed by the setup. But it makes me an easy target, so I've been very wary of the fact that you came after me knowing for sure that I was scum. My case on you stands and you didn't address it yet. So, yes, I'm tunneling you. Also, at the exception of the lack of scumhunting, which I gave a reason for, do you see any point that I didn't address correctly in your case ? You seem to be under the impression that this is not a big deal. That is false. It is a huge scum tell. And I may look at your meta if I have the time but whatever I find will not change the fact that you did not scum hunt at all until prompted and you are now tunnelling the guy accusing you.
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WTF ? My post has been lost...
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My bad, I found it back...
@ DarthPunk
Well, it's not a big deal for me because I know I am town and my whole setup speculation setup ordeal should have been able to solve us the game without scumhunting. I'm sorry if I have preferred a pure logical way to solve this game to the hard way (i.e. going through >150 pages of posts). I'm pretty sure that the last scum would be forced to concede right now if we could have one or two more confirmed townies. It has turned out to backfire at me because debears had most likely a check on Hopeless who is already confirmed by the setup. But it makes me an easy target, so I've been very wary of the fact that you came after me knowing for sure that I was scum. My case on you stands and you didn't address it yet. So, yes, I'm tunneling you.
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Blazinghand
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The problem with your setup speculation garbage, and this was always clear to me, is that the only guy who knows when he should claim is the blue himself. debears didn't have any results worth talking about so he didn't claim. Yeah he got shot so it's irrelevant but what if he wasn't gonna get shot and you outed him with some terrible mass VT claim and he was like "yeah guys sorry i don't have any results" or something?
The point is you can't just rely on the setup to win you the game, and it doesn't matter if you claim you think the setup was going to win the game. We're playing mafia, and mafia isn't about... whatever your pages and pages of letters were about. But the thing is, even if you DID post all that, that's not really a problem if you were also playing the damn game. But you weren't. Like SnB, you were just tunneling without engaging in the town discourse, and so you can see how it's hard for people to make townreads on you.
I like Clarity but I don't know how he could think you're town. We're lynching SnB first, but only just.
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Blazinghand
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also because I know SnB is capable of more
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Blazinghand
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On November 21 2012 15:16 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 15:15 Blazinghand wrote: to be fair, if you ignore the utter lack of scumhunting, djodref hasn't been so bad about scumhunting What the fuck?
this was supposed to be a joke
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On November 21 2012 16:23 Blazinghand wrote: The problem with your setup speculation garbage, and this was always clear to me, is that the only guy who knows when he should claim is the blue himself. debears didn't have any results worth talking about so he didn't claim. Yeah he got shot so it's irrelevant but what if he wasn't gonna get shot and you outed him with some terrible mass VT claim and he was like "yeah guys sorry i don't have any results" or something?
The point is you can't just rely on the setup to win you the game, and it doesn't matter if you claim you think the setup was going to win the game. We're playing mafia, and mafia isn't about... whatever your pages and pages of letters were about. But the thing is, even if you DID post all that, that's not really a problem if you were also playing the damn game. But you weren't. Like SnB, you were just tunneling without engaging in the town discourse, and so you can see how it's hard for people to make townreads on you.
I like Clarity but I don't know how he could think you're town. We're lynching SnB first, but only just.
Yeah, I admitted the fact that he should have been the blues decision. If he wasn't going to get shot, he would at least have brought us one green check. I didn't think that he was going to get shot, I was expecting Hopeless to get shot.
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Blazinghand
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yeah but you can't just assume these things and decide not to contribute to town also
the issue isn't the setup speculation per se but rather than it shut out other avenues of legit discussion
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Blazinghand
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or rather led you to not choose to also pursue those avenues
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Blazinghand. I am super afraid if you die tonight I won't be able to lynch Djo if S&B flips green. Like. It is super obvious he is scum to me. I would really like to lynch him and then maybe S&B.
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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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if it's obvious to you can't you make it obvious to everyone else? btw like 100% me and hopeless are the nks for tonight and tomorrow night
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On November 21 2012 17:31 DarthPunk wrote: Blazinghand. I am super afraid if you die tonight I won't be able to lynch Djo if S&B flips green. Like. It is super obvious he is scum to me. I would really like to lynch him and then maybe S&B.
I understand that you want to keep S&B for your last mislynch. I would do the same if I was scum.
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Blazinghand
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On November 21 2012 17:35 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 17:31 DarthPunk wrote: Blazinghand. I am super afraid if you die tonight I won't be able to lynch Djo if S&B flips green. Like. It is super obvious he is scum to me. I would really like to lynch him and then maybe S&B. I understand that you want to keep S&B for your last mislynch. I would do the same if I was scum.
honestly I also was thinking this when I read that
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Blazinghand
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though DP claims to think of SnB as green so I wonder how a scum DP would get around that at MYLO
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On November 21 2012 16:19 Djodref wrote: My bad, I found it back...
@ DarthPunk
Well, it's not a big deal for me because I know I am town and my whole setup speculation setup ordeal should have been able to solve us the game without scumhunting. I'm sorry if I have preferred a pure logical way to solve this game to the hard way (i.e. going through >150 pages of posts). I'm pretty sure that the last scum would be forced to concede right now if we could have one or two more confirmed townies. It has turned out to backfire at me because debears had most likely a check on Hopeless who is already confirmed by the setup. But it makes me an easy target, so I've been very wary of the fact that you came after me knowing for sure that I was scum. My case on you stands and you didn't address it yet. So, yes, I'm tunneling you.
Your case was crap. Why should I answer it?
It boils down to this.
The ZB lynch was bad in hindsight. Yet you did nothing to stop it and hindsight is 20/20
I was inactive and then active.
herp derp. Where is the case. You pointed out some flaws in my play. Grats that's how scum build their cases. YOu have not shown the mafia motive behind my posts or a anti-town mindset in my play.
Add to that you said you were making a case on clarity it never showed up and you instead started tunneling the person who thinks you are scum.
I doubt anything I say can stop you from tunnelling me. That is because you are scum and you don't care what I say. You just want your mislynch.
Your filter consists of this
Tunnel BH 4 pages
Set-up speculate/ mass claim 6 pages
Tunnel DP everything else
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Blazinghand
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but yeah I think best plan of action is lynch SnB then drojef but the only one i'm like super sure on is SnB
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On November 21 2012 17:33 Blazinghand wrote: if it's obvious to you can't you make it obvious to everyone else? btw like 100% me and hopeless are the nks for tonight and tomorrow night
I am trying. I don't know how HE HASN'T SCUMHUNTED doesn't set alarm bells off for everyone else.
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Blazinghand
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dude if you can just overlook the fact that djodref hasn't been scumhunting at all you can see how he's been scumhunting
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