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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 00:47 GMT
#2231
On November 17 2012 09:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
[quote]

My claim was necessary. I played bad and was forced to claim, but the claim itself, given the circumstances, was the right call.


You were not forced to claim. That's a lie


If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim?


That's a good question. I can't answer that.

But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit

##Vote BH


I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that.


JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1??????

Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys


I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic?


No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb


Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._.


Still waiting for an explanation on this, debears. Have you not been reading the thread?


You are being outrageous right now BH
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 00:51 GMT
#2236
On November 17 2012 09:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:47 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
[quote]

You were not forced to claim. That's a lie


If I didn't feel I was forced to claim, then why did I claim?


That's a good question. I can't answer that.

But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit

##Vote BH


I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that.


JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1??????

Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys


I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic?


No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb


Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._.


I know the timing of your fucking claim. I knew it made no sense from either perspective. I didn't want to lynch an uncontested jk claim d1 - that's fucking retarded. But honestly, you keep saying it was necessary instead of manning the fuck up and saying your play was just horrible. Your claim was not forced. You were not under real threat. 3 votes midway through d1 =/= real threat


I made the right call, and I stand by it. And if you think my defense of my claim is somehow scummy, you need to explain how "not manning up" is scummy. I'm 100% serious, I want your thought process on this, in detail.


You made the right call by making yourself fucking useless the whole game if you are jk? We can't confirm you in any way shape or form. If it gets to LYLO and you're alive we're fucked if you are jk. This is so dumb.

And it's not necessarily scummy. It's not necessarily townie. But idk why you feel like you need to vindicate the play of your claim if you are jk. Ugh.

##Unvote

I hate you right now BH
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 00:54 GMT
#2240
On November 17 2012 09:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 09:51 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:48 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:47 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:41 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:40 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:40 debears wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 17 2012 09:38 debears wrote:
[quote]

That's a good question. I can't answer that.

But you were not forced to claim so fucking early d1. You fucking know that. You basically nullify your whole use d1 with that shit

##Vote BH


I claimed halfway through D1, that's not "so fucking early" that's "just right" and you (should) know that.


JK CLAIM HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1??????

Wow. wow. wow. Alright I'm down to lynch BH guys


I'm confused. Are you being sarcastic?


No. You were not under real threat halfway through day 1 and you claimed. That's so dumb as a jk. So fucking dumb


Wait, did you not already know the timing and nature of my roleclaim? What? ._.


I know the timing of your fucking claim. I knew it made no sense from either perspective. I didn't want to lynch an uncontested jk claim d1 - that's fucking retarded. But honestly, you keep saying it was necessary instead of manning the fuck up and saying your play was just horrible. Your claim was not forced. You were not under real threat. 3 votes midway through d1 =/= real threat


I made the right call, and I stand by it. And if you think my defense of my claim is somehow scummy, you need to explain how "not manning up" is scummy. I'm 100% serious, I want your thought process on this, in detail.


You made the right call by making yourself fucking useless the whole game if you are jk? We can't confirm you in any way shape or form. If it gets to LYLO and you're alive we're fucked if you are jk. This is so dumb.

And it's not necessarily scummy. It's not necessarily townie. But idk why you feel like you need to vindicate the play of your claim if you are jk. Ugh.

##Unvote

I hate you right now BH


I'm sorry. I respect that you thought it out and unvoted me even though you would viscerally LIKE to lynch me. Marv was the same-- he put his brain ahead of his gut.


Alright. I am not coming back to the thread tonight. I'm gonna look over day 1 cuz right now this is pointless arguing with you
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 01:03 GMT
#2248
On November 17 2012 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Debears. Please respond to the only constructive posting in the thread so far. I.E. NOT the JK claim or Blazinghand.


DP, if you're referring to the we can't use Z-Bo's vote as a town tell I agree. It is plausible he was also scum and hapa tried to save him

Seriously, going to look at d1 now
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 01:12 GMT
#2251
On November 13 2012 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh, and as always, I endorse lynching the shit outta lurkers. Discuss.


Lol i can't believe we didn't catch this d1................
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 01:15 GMT
#2252
Does anyone know the odds of a miller being in the setup with:

1) a jk/scum rb
2) a vig
3) a gf
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 01:15 GMT
#2253
^^^

4) a goon
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 01:25 GMT
#2255
On November 17 2012 10:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 10:12 debears wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh, and as always, I endorse lynching the shit outta lurkers. Discuss.


Lol i can't believe we didn't catch this d1................

he has to say it he says it almost every game


But he didn't even take a whiff of the lurkers lol besides lightly pushing kickstart i think
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 01:52 GMT
#2272
^^^

BH, I do agree with the meta thing. When I played Z-Bo and we were both town, he tunneled me to death d1
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 16:31 GMT
#2372
##unvote
##vote zbo


1) zbo a lot of us have noticed your meta is different. And it isn't your amount of posting that's it. Its how you have not pursued your scumreads. You tunneled me to death when I played with you. You haven't done shit this game
2) you're a liability heading into lylo. With your difference in meta and the miller claim, there will always be that doubt in the back of our heads
3) you chose to make a case on thrawn/djo. Its curteousy to allow replacements time to get in the game, especially when 2 scum are already gone. Also, you're reasoning is bullshit. Replacing out of a game cuz one of your scum partners being killed would result in penalties. Its unsportsmanlike.
4) early d1, you had your suspicions on me. Yet, when I pointed out snbs claim, you jumped on him while continueing to be suspicious of me and lecture me
5) after your vote on snb, hapa attacked dp for voting snb and ignored your vote on snb, although you voted first

Can't post more right now our internet is down in our dorms. Yay 3g on phone
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2376
Snb your vote is on bh right?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2380
Some thoughts on bh

I'm feeling him as jk after our last exchange. He keeps saying how his claim was good despite how fucking pissed off people get at him for it. He's been drawing attention to himseld the whole game. He has taken the spotlight and nothing he has donr is necessarily scummy
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 16:55 GMT
#2381
On November 18 2012 01:40 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 01:31 debears wrote:
##unvote
##vote zbo


1) zbo a lot of us have noticed your meta is different. And it isn't your amount of posting that's it. Its how you have not pursued your scumreads. You tunneled me to death when I played with you. You haven't done shit this game
2) you're a liability heading into lylo. With your difference in meta and the miller claim, there will always be that doubt in the back of our heads
3) you chose to make a case on thrawn/djo. Its curteousy to allow replacements time to get in the game, especially when 2 scum are already gone. Also, you're reasoning is bullshit. Replacing out of a game cuz one of your scum partners being killed would result in penalties. Its unsportsmanlike.
4) early d1, you had your suspicions on me. Yet, when I pointed out snbs claim, you jumped on him while continueing to be suspicious of me and lecture me
5) after your vote on snb, hapa attacked dp for voting snb and ignored your vote on snb, although you voted first

Can't post more right now our internet is down in our dorms. Yay 3g on phone


1) Yes I have. I've pursued BH to the point he had to claim. I participated with my reads. I was there around lynch line. This is stupid confirmation bias, I've succesfully told town to lynch two scum.
2)This makes no sense. The cop is not going to have a check every single last person on mylo. Find scum instead of looking for liabilites:
3) Courteous? Unsportsmanlike? Shut the fuck up. Find scum, not be a gentleman. My case against him does not resume itself to that.
4) Those were pressure votes in the early stages of the game. You must really really be trying hard to find accusations on me to justify your vote to bring that up
5) Not sure what this means. Must be the same with number 4.


On thrawn, have you noticed that thrawn was there at lynch time and didn't vote for you when hapa was in danger? I don't see scum just letting their godfather go down that easily on a last minute voteswing.

1) ill look into this when I gey my internet back
2) what does a cop have anything to do with this? Thisb is about your meta, your play, amd yhe doubt that the miller claim brings with both of those. We can afford to look at scummy people who will be liabilities at lylo right now. Fo we want to end the game? Yeah. Is it an easy win with how some have played this game? No
3) lol don't tell me to shut up. You know I'm right on this. Now you're getting offensive for no reason
4) cool. When you put suspicion on a person who is suspicious to someone you are suspicious of, it doesnt make sense
5) its an association. I havent gotten around to finishing associations cuz of the internet
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 17:03 GMT
#2383
1) miller claim is a null tell
2) bh claimed because he's an idiot or scum. You're trying to take credit for it? Lol
3) wifomwfiomwifom
4) wifomwifomwifom
5) exactly. If you were town trying to survive, why wouldnt you vote for someone you realistically would believe would be lynched? If you were scum, you couldve thougjt it would help clear hapa if yoi got lynched with your vote on him
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 17:06 GMT
#2385
Cool. 6/6 and you feel like your weren't getting lynched? Then yoi make a post saying "Lynch this player and this player when he survives to day 2" althougb you didn't think you were getting lynched?

Oh and how would you know at that point that bh is living til day 3??????
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 17:14 GMT
#2388
On November 18 2012 02:04 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 01:55 debears wrote:
On November 18 2012 01:40 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 18 2012 01:31 debears wrote:
##unvote
##vote zbo


1) zbo a lot of us have noticed your meta is different. And it isn't your amount of posting that's it. Its how you have not pursued your scumreads. You tunneled me to death when I played with you. You haven't done shit this game
2) you're a liability heading into lylo. With your difference in meta and the miller claim, there will always be that doubt in the back of our heads
3) you chose to make a case on thrawn/djo. Its curteousy to allow replacements time to get in the game, especially when 2 scum are already gone. Also, you're reasoning is bullshit. Replacing out of a game cuz one of your scum partners being killed would result in penalties. Its unsportsmanlike.
4) early d1, you had your suspicions on me. Yet, when I pointed out snbs claim, you jumped on him while continueing to be suspicious of me and lecture me
5) after your vote on snb, hapa attacked dp for voting snb and ignored your vote on snb, although you voted first

Can't post more right now our internet is down in our dorms. Yay 3g on phone


1) Yes I have. I've pursued BH to the point he had to claim. I participated with my reads. I was there around lynch line. This is stupid confirmation bias, I've succesfully told town to lynch two scum.
2)This makes no sense. The cop is not going to have a check every single last person on mylo. Find scum instead of looking for liabilites:
3) Courteous? Unsportsmanlike? Shut the fuck up. Find scum, not be a gentleman. My case against him does not resume itself to that.
4) Those were pressure votes in the early stages of the game. You must really really be trying hard to find accusations on me to justify your vote to bring that up
5) Not sure what this means. Must be the same with number 4.


On thrawn, have you noticed that thrawn was there at lynch time and didn't vote for you when hapa was in danger? I don't see scum just letting their godfather go down that easily on a last minute voteswing.

1) ill look into this when I gey my internet back
2) what does a cop have anything to do with this? Thisb is about your meta, your play, amd yhe doubt that the miller claim brings with both of those. We can afford to look at scummy people who will be liabilities at lylo right now. Fo we want to end the game? Yeah. Is it an easy win with how some have played this game? No
3) lol don't tell me to shut up. You know I'm right on this. Now you're getting offensive for no reason
4) cool. When you put suspicion on a person who is suspicious to someone you are suspicious of, it doesnt make sense
5) its an association. I havent gotten around to finishing associations cuz of the internet


2) You are calling me a liability because the cop can't check me. Confirm this if that is what you meant. If it is, then that argument is stupid, as there will necessarily be unchecked people should we get to lylo, i.e liabilities. That means that on the day before lylo, you should lynch whoever doesn't have a cop check. That's all just too dumb. You lynch people because they have scum motivation and scum mentality, not because they are "liabilities".
3) Well what do you expect? You just shat the entirety of my case saying it's dumb because of ONE aspect of what I said. You didn't deal with the rest of it. You didn't comment SHIT. That's just bad play. Also, He has 48 hours to play and contribute. I'm also interested in his reactions. You are not right here, no need for snark comments. Sportsmanship and courtesy DURING the game is not what mafia is about. If my case on thrawn was 100% irrefutable, you would definitely kill djodref, logically. Courtesy isn't a part of this. No one becomes townier and unlynchable just because they come in as a replacement.
4) English? You are using old and bad arguments. That's about it.
5) yea, so you just casually decided to ad this here.

People are getting confident and getting lazy. REAAAAAD!!!!!


Just keep lecturing everyone. Thatll help you if you are town

2) my argument has nothing to do with a fucking cop. I never brought it up in ny argument. Its about how you claim miller, and then barely anyonr thinks you are town. That's the problem. If yoi were miller, I'd expect you to bust your balls to prove yoir innocence from the very start. You didn't do that d1 obviously since almost everyone thinks you are scummy.
3) we arent lynching djo today. Thrawns play is not necessarily scummy. He replaced out, which means he did have valid irl issues. You can't use replacing out as a fucking scum tell. You're grasping at straws
4) cool. Attack my english whrn ur not even reading, since you don't care to.
5) yeah I did add it because its related. Do you find it scummy that I did?

debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 17:16 GMT
#2389
fin a cotton finally got some internetzzz
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 17:16 GMT
#2390
On November 18 2012 02:11 Z-BosoN wrote:
Debears, stop posting until you are able to read everything and comment. It's pissing me off how lazy, unhelpful, and useless your points are being. Seriously. The second part of the post deals with the WIFOM.

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 02:03 debears wrote:
1) miller claim is a null tell
2) bh claimed because he's an idiot or scum. You're trying to take credit for it? Lol
3) wifomwfiomwifom
4) wifomwifomwifom
5) exactly. If you were town trying to survive, why wouldnt you vote for someone you realistically would believe would be lynched? If you were scum, you couldve thougjt it would help clear hapa if yoi got lynched with your vote on him


1) Not completely null. I'd have to risk a counterclaim. The game already has a godfather, so it's likely that there is both a miller and a cop. If I was scum and saw that we had a godfather, I wouldn't risk fake claiming not in a million fucking years.
2) Showing how I'm actually trying.
3)
4)
5) You are not this dumb. I wasn't town trying to survive WITH 5 MINUTES ON THE LYNCH AND 8 VOTES ON ME. I was giving my death reads. How is the fact that I was 100% expecting to die still in question? Jesus... even DP's WIFOM bomb theory makes more sense than this shit.

Seriously, stop posting until you actually have a computer. This is almost kush-level posting..


YOU JUST SAID YOU DIDN'T THINK YOU WERE GETTING LYNCHED. WHY WERE YOU GIVING DEATH READs?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 17:17 GMT
#2391
nvm on that
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 17:40 GMT
#2394
On November 15 2012 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Last minute lynch is totes going to work well. Let's ignore Z-Boson freggin telling peopel to LISTEN TO ME and call me scum.

Such fucking shit


On November 15 2012 11:12 Hapahauli wrote:
GG yo =D


Just found this in the thread. Notice that both comments are after lynch deadline is over.

Hapa knows he is lynched at this point. Why does he bring up Z-Bo out of all people? There was BH and me on him the whole time. But he brings up Z-Bo out of all people.

Why does his demeanor change so quickly from pissed at Z-Bo to "gg yo"?

Hapa's remark on Z-Bo feels forced reading this

@Iamp

On November 15 2012 10:55 iamperfection wrote:
would be some poetic justice too to kill him with a last minute wagon.


LOL
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