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iamperfection
United States9648 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On November 19 2012 07:08 strongandbig wrote: Okay so this is actually really interesting - it's not what I expected, one-shot roles neither get "upgraded" nor "removed" which narrows down the possible TT setups by a lot. Also - C's have to come in pairs, whereas you have to have an odd number of V's or B's. One consequence: the only situation in which there are no additional blue roles is in TTTTTMV, if BH is the serial killer and there are no remaining scum. These are all TT setups where BH and H1 are telling the truth
You'll note that there are no B setups here. That's because any possible TT setup including a vig, a JK, a miller, and a roleblocker, would have either a one-shot JK or a one-shot roleblocker, and thus be bumped up to three T's. Now, let's look at the cases where BH is lying, but we're still in a TT setup.
Now, with this new information, I can actually start to get to grips with the single-T setups. If BH is telling the truth we have
If BH is lying we have
Then finally there are the zero-T setups where BH is telling the truth:
Where BH is lying:
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iamperfection
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
So look for a setup WITHOUT scum roleblocker, vigi/cop/miller | ||
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iamperfection
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iamperfection
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 19 2012 11:18 iamperfection wrote: oh were you role blocked bh? Yeah he said so. Doesn't tell us anything though. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 19 2012 11:19 Blazinghand wrote: for what it's worth, me claiming being RBed PROBABLY means if I'm scum I'm not a mafia RB since it would be effortless for me to just use my power to support my fake claim. Take that with a goblet of wine, but even if it's wine in front of you, some wine in front of you is easier to drink the others On November 19 2012 11:17 Clarity_nl wrote: We even know that there is no roleblocker in scum lineup, if we work from the assumption that blazing is scum. So look for a setup WITHOUT scum roleblocker, vigi/cop/miller | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
ah ok that's what that means, gotcha. of course I wouldn't really encourage snb's setup-fu when he could be making reads or like at least pretending to act town instead | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Seriously it looks like you're scum with a masterplan, and pride is getting in the way. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I'm go to bed, night. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On November 19 2012 11:21 Clarity_nl wrote: Your insistence on playing will looks so scummy to me, but marv said you're capable of it as town so I'll take his word for it. Seriously it looks like you're scum with a masterplan, and pride is getting in the way. wow there is just no pleasing you people is there. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
You insistence on SAYING you're playing well looks scummy to me. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
BH telling the truth: VDMCCTT V - Me D - BH M - Z-Bo CC - debears TT - Scum Roleblocker is all that is left (Goon and GF are dead). BH lying: VMCCTTT V - Me M - Z-Bo CC - debears TTT - No Godfather in this setup, therefore not applicable. In this way, BH is confirmed town unless someone wants to claim something. I'm not even sure if I agreed in-thread with BH about the blues making that decision, but unless someone can point out the flaw in my logic, a blue-claim wins the game as we have 2 mislynches and the claim means someone is lying between Me, BH and the claimer If there is no claim, we can safely assume that BH and I are confirmed town, and will be promptly shot and the closest opportunity. | ||
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Blazinghand
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