Mario Mini Mafia - Page 147

On November 19 2012 07:08 strongandbig wrote:
Okay so this is actually really interesting - it's not what I expected, one-shot roles neither get "upgraded" nor "removed" which narrows down the possible TT setups by a lot.

Also - C's have to come in pairs, whereas you have to have an odd number of V's or B's.

One consequence: the only situation in which there are no additional blue roles is in TTTTTMV, if BH is the serial killer and there are no remaining scum.

These are all TT setups where BH and H1 are telling the truth

• TTMVDCC
  
• TTMVVVD
  
• TTMMMVD
  

You'll note that there are no B setups here. That's because any possible TT setup including a vig, a JK, a miller, and a roleblocker, would have either a one-shot JK or a one-shot roleblocker, and thus be bumped up to three T's.

Now, let's look at the cases where BH is lying, but we're still in a TT setup.

• TTMMMVB
  
• TTMVVVB
  
• TTMVCCB
  
• TTMVBBB
  

Now, with this new information, I can actually start to get to grips with the single-T setups.

If BH is telling the truth we have

• TMMMVDB
  
• TMVVVDB
  
• TMVDCCB
  
• TMVDBBB
  

If BH is lying we have

• TMMMVVV
  
• TMMMVCC
  
• TMVVVCC
  
• TMVCCCC
  

Then finally there are the zero-T setups
where BH is telling the truth:

• MMMDVVV
  
• MMMDVCC
  
• MDVVVCC
  
• MDVCCCC
  

Where BH is lying:

• MMMVVVB
  
• MMMVBBB
  
• MMMCCCC
  
• MVVVBBB
  
• MVBBBCC
  
• MVBCCCC
  

On November 19 2012 11:18 iamperfection wrote:
oh were you role blocked bh?

On November 19 2012 11:19 Blazinghand wrote:
for what it's worth, me claiming being RBed PROBABLY means if I'm scum I'm not a mafia RB since it would be effortless for me to just use my power to support my fake claim. Take that with a goblet of wine, but even if it's wine in front of you, some wine in front of you is easier to drink the others

On November 19 2012 11:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
We even know that there is no roleblocker in scum lineup, if we work from the assumption that blazing is scum.
So look for a setup WITHOUT scum roleblocker, vigi/cop/miller

On November 19 2012 11:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Your insistence on playing will looks so scummy to me, but marv said you're capable of it as town so I'll take his word for it.
Seriously it looks like you're scum with a masterplan, and pride is getting in the way.