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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 17 2012 21:51 GMT
#2421
And I do NOT think his play has improved. If ZB somehow actually does flip town I want to lynch clarity. I will make an updated case at some point.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 17 2012 21:55 GMT
#2422
@Hopeless

Hopeless, I wasn't the leader for the 10-15 minutes leading up to the lynch. With 13 minutes to go, the vote count was 6-6. I started making that post without having seen the vote count. This is the exactly what I'm talking about when I'm saying you guys are idiots, you can't even manage to check the fucking thread on things as important as these.

Why in the WORLD does me committing myself to pursuing hapa makes more sense as a "scum wanting to bus and gain towncred" rather than a "townie who actually thinks hapa is scum"? This, of course, when I already showed signs of suspicion form hapa. Why does this make sense as scum to you? Goddamn. Needlessly bussing a teammate day one when there isn't even a case on him? This notion is ridiculous to me, I can't fathom how this makes sense to every single one of you.

I don't see what you are saying in this third paragraph. I said he was the best day 2 lynch. Before I was supposedly dead, it was hapa #1 and bh #2. Then I said I'd rather lynch clarity rather than BH, because I thought (and still do) think that a BH lynch is stupid right now.




@DarthPunk
You are a brick. You love saying you read, but it's so clear that you just skim over my arguments. Those two lines you are finding contradictory are referring to two different posts, one 5min prior to the deadline (when I assumed I was dead), and one 10 min before (when I didn't.). Whatever, you're an idiot and can't be reasoned with, so do this: Keep your vote on me. Pursue other scumreads now. Clarity is not it. I'm scum, and I'm saying clarity is town, no point reading into him, right? Great. (here's a good quote for all you brilliant haters, I just claimed scum lololol)

Read into thrawn/djodref and debears. Also try to analyze BH for day 3.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 17 2012 21:57 GMT
#2423
On November 18 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
@Hopeless

Hopeless, I wasn't the leader for the 10-15 minutes leading up to the lynch. With 13 minutes to go, the vote count was 6-6. I started making that post without having seen the vote count. This is the exactly what I'm talking about when I'm saying you guys are idiots, you can't even manage to check the fucking thread on things as important as these.

Why in the WORLD does me committing myself to pursuing hapa makes more sense as a "scum wanting to bus and gain towncred" rather than a "townie who actually thinks hapa is scum"? This, of course, when I already showed signs of suspicion form hapa. Why does this make sense as scum to you? Goddamn. Needlessly bussing a teammate day one when there isn't even a case on him? This notion is ridiculous to me, I can't fathom how this makes sense to every single one of you.

I don't see what you are saying in this third paragraph. I said he was the best day 2 lynch. Before I was supposedly dead, it was hapa #1 and bh #2. Then I said I'd rather lynch clarity rather than BH, because I thought (and still do) think that a BH lynch is stupid right now.




@DarthPunk
You are a brick. You love saying you read, but it's so clear that you just skim over my arguments. Those two lines you are finding contradictory are referring to two different posts, one 5min prior to the deadline (when I assumed I was dead), and one 10 min before (when I didn't.). Whatever, you're an idiot and can't be reasoned with, so do this: Keep your vote on me. Pursue other scumreads now. Clarity is not it. I'm scum, and I'm saying clarity is town, no point reading into him, right? Great. (here's a good quote for all you brilliant haters, I just claimed scum lololol)

Read into thrawn/djodref and debears. Also try to analyze BH for day 3.


Stop equating disagreement to ignorance.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 17 2012 21:59 GMT
#2424
Also. If you are scum there is no point pursuing anyone. If you are not scum you have no additional information and therefore I choose my reads over yours. Therefore your point about clarity is nonsense. Like essentially all your arguments.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
November 17 2012 22:03 GMT
#2425
meh ill be back in hour and so these filters are boring me need a break.

for the obs i guaranteed shenanigans last time this time i say there is about 37.54% for shenanigans so still have your ready and stay tuned.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 17 2012 22:04 GMT
#2426
On November 18 2012 07:03 iamperfection wrote:
meh ill be back in hour and so these filters are boring me need a break.

for the obs i guaranteed shenanigans last time this time i say there is about 37.54% for shenanigans so still have your ready and stay tuned.


LOL.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 17 2012 22:09 GMT
#2427
On November 15 2012 10:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
votecount:

DarthPunk (6): thrawn2112, Hapahauli, Z-BosoN, Kickstart
Z-BosoN (6): Clarity_nl, marvellosity, DarthPunk, Crossfire99, Blazinghand, strongandbig
debears (1): Hopeless1der
Hopeless (1): debears

Not voting: iamperfection


Currently, DarthPunk is set to be lynched!

Full version (disregarded):

+ Show Spoiler +
debears (2): Z-Boson, strongandbig, Hapahauli, Hopeless1nder, marvellosity, strongandbig
DarthPunk (7): Hapahauli Hapahauli, Clarity_nl, thrawn2112, Blazinghand, iamperfection, Blazinghand, Blazinghand, Hapahauli, debears, Z-BosoN, Kickstart, debears
Hopeless1der (0): debears, marvellosity, marvellosity, Z-BosoN, Kickstart, debears, debears
Z-BosoN (4): Blazinghand, iamperfection, Blazinghand, marvellosity, Clarity_nl, marvellosity, DarthPunk, Crossfire99
Hapahauli (0): iamperfection, strongandbig. Kickstart, Blazinghand
Blazinghand (0): iamperfection, Z-BosoN, marvellosity, iamperfection, strongandbig, Crossfire99
iamperfection (0): Hapahauli, Bloatinghand
thrawn2112 (0): Hapahauli
strongandbig (0): DarthPunk, Z-BosoN, Clarity_nl, Hapahauli, DarthPunk
Clarity_nl (0): DarthPunk
marvellosity (0): debears
Crossfire99 (0): marvellosity, debears, Blazinghand


Not voting (0):

I realize this isn't the point, but count the actual number of votes. Also, "12 minutes'. It doesn't matter, you were more likely to get lynched than Hapa was. This bullshit about not believing you were going to die is ridiculous.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 17 2012 22:15 GMT
#2428
Joining the halfwit confirmation bias club, hopeless? When I wrote that post, I thought DP had many more votes. I remember this because I fucking wrote "in the godly situation that I get lynched". Of course, you can choose not to believe me. AT LEAST you have to realize that the votes were tied, as what you quoted just suggested.
DP, not hapa. Duh.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 17 2012 22:16 GMT
#2429
Also, yea, makes a lot of sense. I knew I was getting lynched, and said "in the godly situation I get lynched". Because I, a scum mastermind, realized that this would help me in the future. Sigh...
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 17 2012 22:28 GMT
#2430
On November 18 2012 07:16 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, yea, makes a lot of sense. I knew I was getting lynched, and said "in the godly situation I get lynched". Because I, a scum mastermind, realized that this would help me in the future. Sigh...

first, you meant 'ungodly' and second, that was either you being facetious or sarcastic, from my point of view.



On November 18 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
I already showed signs of suspicion form hapa.

You also showed signs of suspicion against me, debears and DarthPunk, but when the time came for you to vote (for me), Hapa was the only one who didn't receive a cursory glance into why you no longer felt he was worth looking at.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 17 2012 22:29 GMT
#2431
Folks, we should consolidate...
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 17 2012 22:30 GMT
#2432
I didn't think we could feasibly lynch hapa. A fair assumption, as marv did the same.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 17 2012 22:34 GMT
#2433
And thus, that's why I said we should go for him day 2... It all makes perfect sense as townie, because that's what happened.

Mad mad confirmation bias here. Me being "sarcastic", instead of me actually thinking that. That's a nice way to explain things.

Where is everybody?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
November 17 2012 23:16 GMT
#2434
Votecount --- Lazy edition:

Z-BosoN (4): Blazinghand, DarthPunk, hopeless1der, debears
strongandbig (2): Kickstart, Clarity_nl
Blazinghand (2): strongandbig, Djodref
Djodref (1): Z-BosoN

Not voting (1): iamperfection


Full version:
+ Show Spoiler +
Z-BosoN (4): Blazinghand, DarthPunk, Hopeless1der, debears
strongandbig (2): Kickstart, Clarity_nl, Blazinghand, debears, Hopeless1der, Z-BosoN
Blazinghand (2): Djodref, strongandbig, debears, Djodref
Djodref (1): Z-BosoN

Not voting (1) iamperfection


Currently, Z-BosoM is set to be lynched! 2 hours 45 minutes remaining in Day 1.

If you see your (or another's) vote to be wrong, it would be kind to notify us.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 23:18 GMT
#2435
On November 18 2012 06:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
I did read it. You should have been expecting to be lynched at the time of that post. You were the leader for the 10-15 minutes leading up to the lynch, right up until Hapa got bombed. Arguing that you didn't expect it is like saying BH's claim was a great idea.

Committing to a day2 bus of Hapa? Why is that a bad thing as scum? One of you walks away with massive town-cred, and there's no guarantee that either of you would prevail. In addition, Hapa hard defended your meta-shift claim. Bussing a teammate is a legitimate strategy.

You 'gave away' the second scumbuddy during the night, after he failed to produce anything useful. You didn't give away shit. If you are trying to imply that Hapa was #1 and BH was #2, then fuck you harder. If you are saying you gave up Cross, which kind of makes sense, I counter with Cross gave himself up. You just acknowledged it and bought into the cred earned by flipping him as a goon.


Hey guys, something we need to consider is that hapa would have been expected to be nked n2 anyways (considering how good he is at town). Remember this. So a scum setting up a day 2 bus on Hapa is imo the most likely scenario
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 17 2012 23:24 GMT
#2436
Not the most likely. The most likely scenario is that I am town and I actually thought Hapa was scum, just as you did.
What you said there is just a possibility that makes a bit of sense that you created in your mind to fit your confirmation bias.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 23:25 GMT
#2437
On November 18 2012 07:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Joining the halfwit confirmation bias club, hopeless? When I wrote that post, I thought DP had many more votes. I remember this because I fucking wrote "in the godly situation that I get lynched". Of course, you can choose not to believe me. AT LEAST you have to realize that the votes were tied, as what you quoted just suggested.
DP, not hapa. Duh.


Z-Bo, you are insulting what, 3 people now? Only one of us could possibly be scum, and chances are none of us 3 are.

This is not how a town player about to get mislynched would act in a scenario with 8 fucking town and 1 scum left (there are 8 of us left right?). The odds of being mislynched in an 8:1 ratio is significantly higher. You would realize this as town and calm down by being helpful and reanalyzing the thread instead of calling people stupid. Calling people idiots doesn't help you at all as town.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 17 2012 23:26 GMT
#2438
Also, we know there's a godfather.
You're also excluding the fact that if there's a godfather, there's a good chance of cop, and a good chance of miller. That makes the miller fakeclaim even more risky as scum, because I would be taking an unnecessary risk earlier on.

BUT.. confirmation bias. I took that risk wanting to get them town cred because I'm insecure in my scum play.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 23:27 GMT
#2439
What are the odds of a cop, miller, gf, goon, jk setup?????

Or where can I look this up?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 17 2012 23:28 GMT
#2440
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