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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 16:43:15
November 08 2012 16:41 GMT
#1721
Yeah I hope I didn't insult you with that Obzy =] I hope you end up playing again sometime!
Same goes for Rad. Don't get discouraged that you felt I wasn't scum, your arguments make sense. It's just with the combination of not contributing yourself (you like to sit back and figure stuff out, I get that, I really do!) it might look dodgy.

Djo, I felt like saying I'm ill, true or not, will just seem like a convenient excuse. At least when others do this I always question it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 08 2012 16:42 GMT
#1722
On November 09 2012 01:36 Clarity_nl wrote:
What is occam? =]


something like everything else being equal, whatever requires the least assumptions is probably true
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 16:44:23
November 08 2012 16:42 GMT
#1723
On November 09 2012 01:36 Clarity_nl wrote:
What is occam? =]


From wiki:

It is a principle stating that among competing hypotheses, the one that makes the fewest assumptions should be selected.


In this case, you being scum is the easy solution. It's a simple explaination to your weird statement. You being town and going through 1-3 is the one requiring a lot of pretty unlikely assumption :p
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 08 2012 16:51 GMT
#1724
Thanks. I've heard that logic one way or another but never "occam" =]
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 08 2012 17:00 GMT
#1725
On November 09 2012 01:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
Djo, You underestimate how easy it is to fake emotions as scum.

Especially if they're half true anyways.


Don't worry about this, I've been using it quite well in my Looney Game
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 08 2012 17:00 GMT
#1726
Thank goodness haha. I'm glad things went the way they did ^^

I have a few specific comments to make:
Djo, your posting rate was a pleasure and (IMO) helped enormously with town's (my) confidence in reads. kudos ^^ [props to dead debears for the same reason ]
Mr CC: :c I really do apologize for my rudeness after flip lol, it was out of place and impolite. Sorry!
Hapa: 1 million mafia-dollars for you, sir - I harassed Hapa with no less than 19 PMs and received quick and thought-guiding responses to each of them; if anybody playing town ever reads this [when not playing this game, but is interested in a newbie mafia game,] - TALK TO YOUR COACHES! Incredibly, incredibly helpful.

I don't know what to say about my flipout post, besides that I was being honest :x The fact it removed suspicion from me so thoroughly was an enormous relief lol. It would've been interesting if everybody had known VT flavor from an early point; Clarity almost certainly would've been lynched D1, but it's impossible to say where town would've gone from there, IMO.

Thanks to our hosts for being prompt with answers, the humorous flavor, and their time investiture!
Thanks to everybody for playing! :D
I don't know if I intend to play again ^^;;; Very, very stressful. Saturday afternoon, an irl friend asked me (we have a LAN-room type thing) if I was going to be reading my forum game all day - I'd probably put 12 hours or so into it at that point, with only a handful of actual posts. It would be interesting to see faster games, although I'd imagine they'd seem incredibly hectic in comparison -

I'll definitely be in the /obs threads though!

I'd comment on individual players, but they would all largely be the same thing - I really liked how basically everybody played. Rad's analysis and quick-responses made him feel very town to me, along with his incredible care in consistent thinking. da0ud's emotion [Particularly his response to me] felt so genuine that I pretty much wanted to trust him no matter what lol. Alsn's analysis (And well-timed roleclaim ^^) slammed a hammer down on the Clarity lynch 100%. debears' early aggressive posting style was exactly what was needed to get town rolling, IMO. Djo played outstandingly with a similar sort of aggression and single-minded targeting, I'm glad he wasn't going after me! I would've just rolled over and died o_o; Mr CC - Oops ((( Hehe. I did have a hearty chuckle at some of your posts, the lynch on you was obviously far too fast in retrospect, and nobody (well, not I~) could've seen the VT flavor being known to more than just us VTs. :x

With regards to Clar and Sylv - WP ^^ I had fun, I appreciate Sylv conceding hehe. I don't think he was in a winnable scenario, so I think it's a sign of good sportsmanship. I look forward to watching you guys (if you play again, Sylv~) as townies as well!

Thanks everybody~
(and debears, it's Obzy not Obsy >:0!)
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 08 2012 17:09 GMT
#1727
On November 09 2012 01:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah I hope I didn't insult you with that Obzy =] I hope you end up playing again sometime!
Same goes for Rad. Don't get discouraged that you felt I wasn't scum, your arguments make sense. It's just with the combination of not contributing yourself (you like to sit back and figure stuff out, I get that, I really do!) it might look dodgy.

Djo, I felt like saying I'm ill, true or not, will just seem like a convenient excuse. At least when others do this I always question it.


@ Clarity

I'm not sure...
People are not only rational, did you notice how Obzy got almost confirmed town with his post ?
I don't think that's something you should use too much but if you are apathetic, you can also be pinned for it.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 08 2012 17:11 GMT
#1728
As for being apathetic... I guess I'll just make it my meta then. I showed annoyance at you during this game but that's about as far as I'm willing to go.
Just give me logical and simple and I'm happy =] Probably why I prefer town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 17:22 GMT
#1729
On November 09 2012 02:00 Obzy wrote:
(and debears, it's Obzy not Obsy >:0!)
Holy shit don't do that, edit it quick before the entire forum decides to call you AlanObsy.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 08 2012 17:23 GMT
#1730
rofl alan
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 08 2012 17:23 GMT
#1731
On November 09 2012 02:22 Alsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 02:00 Obzy wrote:
(and debears, it's Obzy not Obsy >:0!)
Holy shit don't do that, edit it quick before the entire forum decides to call you AlanObsy.

Hey, I don't call you Alan after the first time!

And that time, its only because I had never seen you post and had played with alan133
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 17:25:20
November 08 2012 17:24 GMT
#1732
On November 09 2012 02:09 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 01:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah I hope I didn't insult you with that Obzy =] I hope you end up playing again sometime!
Same goes for Rad. Don't get discouraged that you felt I wasn't scum, your arguments make sense. It's just with the combination of not contributing yourself (you like to sit back and figure stuff out, I get that, I really do!) it might look dodgy.

Djo, I felt like saying I'm ill, true or not, will just seem like a convenient excuse. At least when others do this I always question it.


@ Clarity

I'm not sure...
People are not only rational, did you notice how Obzy got almost confirmed town with his post ?
I don't think that's something you should use too much but if you are apathetic, you can also be pinned for it.
Oh hell no. His show of emotion was about the only thing that I did not think confirmed him town. Maybe I'm just experienced at lying about my emotions(yea, not my finest RL attribute I admit) but I'm totally paranoid about stuff like that.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 08 2012 17:53 GMT
#1733
Oh really ? It was just the icing on the cake for me
And the bad case from Clarity and Obzy counter-case was just sooo good
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 17:54 GMT
#1734
On November 09 2012 02:23 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 02:22 Alsn wrote:
On November 09 2012 02:00 Obzy wrote:
(and debears, it's Obzy not Obsy >:0!)
Holy shit don't do that, edit it quick before the entire forum decides to call you AlanObsy.

Hey, I don't call you Alan after the first time!

And that time, its only because I had never seen you post and had played with alan133
I forgive you. <3

imperfection is a bastard though(and thrawn too for going along with his silly schemes) and when(not if) I eventually get to NK him out of spite it will be a beautiful day indeed.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 08 2012 17:55 GMT
#1735
On November 09 2012 02:54 Alsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 02:23 Keirathi wrote:
On November 09 2012 02:22 Alsn wrote:
On November 09 2012 02:00 Obzy wrote:
(and debears, it's Obzy not Obsy >:0!)
Holy shit don't do that, edit it quick before the entire forum decides to call you AlanObsy.

Hey, I don't call you Alan after the first time!

And that time, its only because I had never seen you post and had played with alan133
I forgive you. <3

imperfection is a bastard though(and thrawn too for going along with his silly schemes) and when(not if) I eventually get to NK him out of spite it will be a beautiful day indeed.


Then your journey to the dark side will be complete, because you will be NKing for trivialities and not gameplay. The final success of the alan scheme.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 08 2012 18:05 GMT
#1736
Well game over
Gg guys I'm late to the party
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 18:05 GMT
#1737
On November 09 2012 02:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 02:54 Alsn wrote:
On November 09 2012 02:23 Keirathi wrote:
On November 09 2012 02:22 Alsn wrote:
On November 09 2012 02:00 Obzy wrote:
(and debears, it's Obzy not Obsy >:0!)
Holy shit don't do that, edit it quick before the entire forum decides to call you AlanObsy.

Hey, I don't call you Alan after the first time!

And that time, its only because I had never seen you post and had played with alan133
I forgive you. <3

imperfection is a bastard though(and thrawn too for going along with his silly schemes) and when(not if) I eventually get to NK him out of spite it will be a beautiful day indeed.


Then your journey to the dark side will be complete, because you will be NKing for trivialities and not gameplay. The final success of the alan scheme.
True, but oh how good it will feel.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 08 2012 18:05 GMT
#1738
On November 09 2012 03:05 debears wrote:
Well game over
Gg guys I'm late to the party
I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 08 2012 18:07 GMT
#1739
On November 09 2012 02:53 Djodref wrote:
Oh really ? It was just the icing on the cake for me
And the bad case from Clarity and Obzy counter-case was just sooo good


Could you explain why it was a bad case? :p
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 08 2012 18:17 GMT
#1740
On November 09 2012 02:24 Alsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 02:09 Djodref wrote:
On November 09 2012 01:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yeah I hope I didn't insult you with that Obzy =] I hope you end up playing again sometime!
Same goes for Rad. Don't get discouraged that you felt I wasn't scum, your arguments make sense. It's just with the combination of not contributing yourself (you like to sit back and figure stuff out, I get that, I really do!) it might look dodgy.

Djo, I felt like saying I'm ill, true or not, will just seem like a convenient excuse. At least when others do this I always question it.


@ Clarity

I'm not sure...
People are not only rational, did you notice how Obzy got almost confirmed town with his post ?
I don't think that's something you should use too much but if you are apathetic, you can also be pinned for it.
Oh hell no. His show of emotion was about the only thing that I did not think confirmed him town. Maybe I'm just experienced at lying about my emotions(yea, not my finest RL attribute I admit) but I'm totally paranoid about stuff like that.

Me too. If I wasn't full of forecasting doom (basically, if I had gotten out of day 2 looking relatively medium on the scum levels) I would have been trying to push Obzy and used his emotional post against him.
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