EPTI would've rather waited to say that until after he answered though.
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I would've rather waited to say that until after he answered though. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I had to look up in the dictionary to be sure ^^ This coupled to the fact that his reasons to vote debears are insufficient in my eyes (you vote someone for some facts, not because he is fluffy without showing where he is fluffy) made sylverfire my top scumread right now. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On November 03 2012 22:01 Djodref wrote: Definition of casting suspicion: suggest that something or someone might be suspect I had to look up in the dictionary to be sure ^^ This coupled to the fact that his reasons to vote debears are insufficient in my eyes (you vote someone for some facts, not because he is fluffy without showing where he is fluffy) made sylverfire my top scumread right now. I see your point Djodref but I don't think because someone else votes another one for being a "poor" contirbutor and sees that as a scum read would make himself scum. He is trying to put pressure on Debears in order to get him to maybe post less and better content. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Why do you defend him ? How can you know his intentions ? The reason he has given us for his vote is his intent to "cast suspicion" upon debears because his filter is full of fluff, according to him. You should better have waited for sylverfire to defend himself for this one because you might just have given him a rope to get out of his situation, | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
I am not defending him, i am saying that there is more scumtell in the way you interpret it than in the his argument against Debears itself. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Are you saying that I purposely misinterpret what sylver has said and done to attack him ? Could you clarify where you think I am wrong ? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 18:43 Clarity_nl wrote: [/b]Debears: Null. Regardless of if he's scum or town, he is getting the ball rolling which is good for us. Problem is... that was what he was doing in XXIX as well and he was scum in that. Older games suggest this is simply his meta so there is no read to be made about his opening. What I'm curious about is if he's going to pull a vanishing act in D2 / D3 again. @ Debears What's your ready on Obzy?. @Clarity I have newbie town read right now. He pointed out good reasoning for believing I might be town. His activity is good for now. I do want to see some legit scumhunting from him though. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 19:45 da0ud wrote: @Debears You are being an active player, maybe too active and all over all arguments same as last game for me to get a read out of it. I will consider this more as a neutral townie-ish read but at least even if you were not town you do contribute and it will be easier to catch you later on. What I don't like about your post is to create noise in the voting thread. You are creating some activity by voting, unvoting, revoting, etc. I don't like that. You could have just FoSed me, and I would have agreed with you on that. I would have explained as well that the timezone differences do not help, but I will do my best to participate as much as I can. I will not post just for the sake of posting or fluffing though... You may not like it, but pressure votes are usually effective. Considering you're lack of activity last game, I want you to step it up. Hence, my vote on you. ##Unvote | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 20:58 Djodref wrote: @ debears So, are you saying that the fact that we have a medic which cannot target the same person twice is such a big imbalance that this game is obviously mafia favored or are you role-fishing ? I'm not sure why you mention this in this post, could you elaborate ? Idk how you get that I'm role fishing from that. 1) I talked about the speed of the game and number of players being mafia favored 2) Combined with the roles setup, the game is pretty mafia favored imo How do you get that I'm role fishing for that when I in no way ask anyone if they are blue? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 21:23 Clarity_nl wrote: Where did I make a list? Unless you're talking about my reads on everyone, which I don't see can ever be a bad thing. You are the one who pointed out that it is a plurality lynch, and that we should not focus too deeply on a select few. My "list" forces everyone to comment on it, and perhaps gain insight on others through my observations or sees a flaw in my logic and helps me out by pointing it out. Yeah, I've read that lists are generally a mafia tell, or newbie town, but this is only the case if they do not contribute. Are you saying that my post will not contribute? Don't do lists like that. They really aren't that helpful. You ask too many questions and you can't pursue them, which is something scum want. Pick a couple people at a time to pursue and question them specifically on stuff. No more lists like that | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On November 03 2012 23:21 Djodref wrote: I'm not sure to understand exactly what you mean... Are you saying that I purposely misinterpret what sylver has said and done to attack him ? Could you clarify where you think I am wrong ? Yes. Explanation of where I think you are wrong is in the previous post : the same one you said i am defending Slyfire and he can use it as a rope to start his own defense. What is the point of your question if you already replied to its own answer ? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 14:44 sylverfyre wrote: Holy shit, this flavor. What. If we're gonna lynch a lurker, I'd rather it be early game than late, at least. But I think that we have more... dedication among the townies this game. There wasn't a long wait for the last few signups - everyone here seems pretty pumped to play some mafia seriously. I don't think lurker policy lynch will come up at all. I kinda expected a bit more... substance in the thread by now. A lot of people are dicking around... lots of oneliners, debears and cheesecake geez you're firing off the oneliners like crazy, you've already got 4 and 3 page filters respectively (75% of it post-gamestart) You've got tons of posts within 1 minute of each other, and often at least one of them has no content. I mean, posting a lot is great, but you're posting a lot of nothing. You're also posting shit with content, but can you PLEASE make your posts a little more substantial so it isn't impossible to read your filter? Would be really helpful. I like Rad's suspicion about people labeling CC being funny as a towntell. Shit, last game people were calling "only posts towntells" as scummy (including on people who turned out to be townie when lynched/NK'd) Cheesecake is also filling this thread with fluff a lot too. I don't kno wwhat to think about Alsn or debears. Could be one of the two is scum, need to see more from them on this topic. Don't like debears fluff. da0ud, please post. Don't pull what you did last game and vacation your life away. (If you're on vacation again, I'm going to be mildly annoyed you even chose to /in) Obviously, morning over there now. You've got time. ##Vote debears Your fluff, and your reaction against Alsn seem odd to me. Also, your claim of always being perfect about on at lynchtime. Now we can't even use it (in the future) as a scumtell on you because it'd turn into WIFOM. + Show Spoiler [off-topic complaint] + TL went down for several minutes as I'm typing this. Frustrating, can't finish the post because I want to check more filters! This post screams scummy to me for a few reasons. 1) Sylver had obviously been following the thread before this post, yet he posts it AFTER I leave the thread. This is especially alarming considering he suddenly accuses and votes me for terribad reasoning 2) It's a big post, showing that he had it written for a while 3) He neglects that I actually do have content in my filter 4) He pretty much peaced out right after (was onlly posting for 45 minutes, made very few posts) 5) He casts suspicions on me and Cheese 6) Fails to refer the convo's btw me and alsn----me, CC, and Djo 7) He lectures us about not having conent in the thread, yet he hasn't been here, and he has provided literally nothing. what good does that do for town. 8) How do you know who the townies are, and how do you know they are more dedicated? The only ones posting alot are me, CC, and Djo with a little Rad and Clarity sprinkled in. So, since we are showing dedication, you obviously think we are town, yet you vote me and spread suspicion on cheese. Scumslip alert boys ##Vote Sylver Explain yourself | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 03 2012 23:35 debears wrote: Don't do lists like that. They really aren't that helpful. You ask too many questions and you can't pursue them, which is something scum want. Pick a couple people at a time to pursue and question them specifically on stuff. No more lists like that Hmm, I disagree but sure, no more lists this game. What do you think Djo's read of sylver's post? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
look at point 8 about the red text and scumslip | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 03 2012 23:33 debears wrote: Idk how you get that I'm role fishing from that. 1) I talked about the speed of the game and number of players being mafia favored 2) Combined with the roles setup, the game is pretty mafia favored imo How do you get that I'm role fishing for that when I in no way ask anyone if they are blue? @ debears Maybe you were waiting for a possible medic to confirm you the fact that he cannot heal himself. I would expect a medic to carefully read his role's rules and I'm expecting you to know that medics usually cannot heal themselves. But you are asking this question nevertheless. I'm agreeing that the speed of this game is benefit the mafia but I don't see why the role setup would be mafia favored. It is only because the medic cannot heal the same person twice ? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 03 2012 23:44 Djodref wrote: @ debears Maybe you were waiting for a possible medic to confirm you the fact that he cannot heal himself. I would expect a medic to carefully read his role's rules and I'm expecting you to know that medics usually cannot heal themselves. But you are asking this question nevertheless. I'm agreeing that the speed of this game is benefit the mafia but I don't see why the role setup would be mafia favored. It is only because the medic cannot heal the same person twice ? That, with no vig, no vet, yet the Mafia still have the same power roles for possiblities, except the godfather. Oh, and roleblocks aren't notified. Mainly it's the number of players and speed of the game combined with only having 2 mafia | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 03 2012 23:35 da0ud wrote: Yes. Explanation of where I think you are wrong is in the previous post : the same one you said i am defending Slyfire and he can use it as a rope to start his own defense. What is the point of your question if you already replied to its own answer ? @ daoud Ok, so you are not defending sylver but attacking me for misinterpreting the thread. Could you please tell me exactly where I misinterpreted the thread ? Show me it in a quote so I can be more precise. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
What do you think of my points on Sylver? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 03 2012 23:48 debears wrote: That, with no vig, no vet, yet the Mafia still have the same power roles for possiblities, except the godfather. Oh, and roleblocks aren't notified. Mainly it's the number of players and speed of the game combined with only having 2 mafia @ debears I think that cop and jailkeeper are powerful roles, we might not have both of them though. Vig is not so good in newbie games (could you confirm this one, Rad?). Please also note that a framer couldn't use his power on his mafia partner. Anyway, I don't think the setup is imbalanced from a role point of view and I was surprised that you were only mentioning the medic. I'm not totally satisfied with your explanations but it was a minor thing. I'm more interested in sylverfire and daoud right now. Can the framer frame himself ? | ||
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