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Blazinghand *
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October 29 2012 04:57 GMT
#13
/in
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October 29 2012 11:25 GMT
#16
On October 29 2012 20:19 Chezinu wrote:
/in


now I know fear
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October 30 2012 21:13 GMT
#61
I mean, for what it's worth saying that Sandy is a normal hurricane in a weird place, while accurate, doesn't capture the enormity of what it is. Like, if Hurricane Sandy hit in Idaho there'd be massive property damage because Idaho is not a place that is prepared for hurricanes like, say, Florida is. Hurricanes of that strength and ferocity may hit certain areas with regularity, but NY is not one of those places-- it usually only sees storms like this once every 20+ years. As a result, a lot of damage happens. The media hyped it up, but it's still a dangerous thing, and the fact that other places encounter this more often (places that deal with it regularly and are not as densely populated) is somewhat of a non sequitur.
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Blazinghand *
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October 31 2012 00:07 GMT
#74
Don't worry about spelling, as long as you start with the right letter you're following the rule, right?`
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October 31 2012 00:08 GMT
#75
Elephants are cool
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October 31 2012 02:00 GMT
#92
This game is pretty fun, and is iGrok's subtle way of telling me to play more Dungeon Crawl (though not via console) and spam less. Uh, a word to the wise would be refresh before posting, especially when making long posts, so you know you're on the right letter.

##Vote: Chezinu
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October 31 2012 02:06 GMT
#94
Xcellent question! You will see. Zorro is a cool character.
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October 31 2012 02:38 GMT
#99
Love to. My reason is that at this point in the thread he is the scummiest. "No way," you say, "he hasn't posted yet!" Often, that is reason enough. Proof of his scumminess is that he is a general liability.

Quack is the sound ducks make. Really though I'm gonna change my vote to Adam there's no way that post is town. Seriously if he was reforming posts he'd reform his post into that post instead of making a complaining post. Trying to get cred when he deserves none. Untie!
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October 31 2012 02:38 GMT
#100
##vote: Adam4167
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October 31 2012 02:56 GMT
#102
and yet somehow this magical post you supposedly wrotr is still absent
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October 31 2012 16:22 GMT
#161
On November 01 2012 00:58 strongandbig wrote:
very much hoping that chezinu's mass claim plan is actually just a really convoluted way for him to claim VT and then kenpachi rule someone


If you believe anything chezinu has to say at face value it can only be because you haven't played with him much. As an aside (and this is more pointed at crossfire, who has a terrible abomination of a post a little earlier), if you're going to be gone for an hour, instead of following the game, make your posts freaking legible instead. like, if you have a huge case with a bunch of paragraphs, just write it in normal english, post the thing, and wait an hour.

The game is fine and all, and if you want to banter and go back and forth, do it. But the terrible lobstrosity of a post that crossfire puked into the thread is the kind of thing that doesn't help. There are times to break the rules. In a way, chezinu knows this better than anyone here, but hes too busy being chezinu to lead town.

breaking the rules is not a scum move, any more than simply not posting for an hour is a scum move. tons of people have 1+ hour gaps in between their craptacularly bad alphabetical posts-- you should just make decent, good posts instead if you're not in the middle of a conversation.
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Blazinghand *
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October 31 2012 17:46 GMT
#173
Regarding straight-up inactivity, it is not a town or a scum-tell on its own. So, yeah, they haven't posted, but that just means they haven't posted. This can happen to both scum and town, and it's not a good move for either-- but of course we have to keep our eyeballs on them. Until I hear from them, they wont be getting my vote, barring last-minute delurk shenanigans.
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October 31 2012 18:18 GMT
#178
Xplain better plz
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October 31 2012 19:24 GMT
#188
For what reason are we even discussing this mass blue claim idea? Get cool like me and ignore it.
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Blazinghand *
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October 31 2012 19:44 GMT
#193
I've been back and posting. Gonzaw. Basically, Adam typically opens up with big paragraphs and direct Q/A (see any of his games for examples of this). However, in games like TL Mafia LI when he rolls scum, he also opens up with big pieces of analysis, and more importantly, he hides behind questioning other players. In NMM III, he jumps in (as a replacement, admittedly), with accusations and direct confrontation against SS.

Arkham City, although a bit on the old side, shows a classic "Adam as town opening post"

On February 06 2012 21:45 Adam4167 wrote:
All this setup piffle is useless and counterproductive. Both sides can post filler about the setup. Let power roles make their own judgement calls, let the night actions unfold as they do, and spend your time doing something that will actually lead to scum kills, like prodding people or reading filters. In the spirit of that:

Kurumi, you soft-defend Schworz twice in a single post, also indicate that vigi's should avoid him and the rest of your post is basic setup waffle. I don't remember you being this wishy-washy in TL50 either, with statements like 'I find it funny that...' and 'I just ponder', you sure come off that way now. What are you playing at?

Tobberoth, you say you're considering a vote on Kenpachi, yet you want to wait until 'discussion comes up later in the day'. This comes off as quite passive and almost like you're waiting for a bandwagon to pickup speed before you seal the deal. Why not just vote him now if you find him suspicious, as you claim, then move it later as more information presents itself?

Ico, policy lynches are retarded... just no.

Jaybrundage, I know you haven't even posted yet, but we've never been the same team. Don't see why this game would be any different. Have my vote!

##Vote: jaybrundage


This is a post where he lays down solid opinions, makes a case and a post, and although his vote on JB isn't great, he gets his stuff together. Even in our first game together, Student Mafia, he comes out strong, actively assessing players in the thread and laying down reads, not asking pointless questions. Here's his first posts from this game, as a contrast:
On October 31 2012 11:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Adam has typed out four posts now only to be beaten to posting them.
Beginning to go Bruce Banner on this posting restriction and its only 45 minutes in.

On October 31 2012 11:54 Adam4167 wrote:
Very astute Blazinghand, that you've managed to discern my alignment from a 2 line post.

What happened was I got sick of reforming my post and hit Control+A then delete.

Xena warrior princess is awesome.

You're Wrong.

Zero town cred do I care about, only killing scum.


He's operating under a posting restriction, sure, but look at what he's doing: he's stalling, deflecting, and asking questions rather than making statements and putting on pressure. After I call him out, he says this:

On October 31 2012 12:12 Adam4167 wrote:
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On October 31 2012 11:56 Blazinghand wrote:
and yet somehow this magical post you supposedly wrotr is still absent


For what it is worth, my post was an introduction post that outlined that since I am newly unemployed, I am online from 9am KST til 1am KST every night, and that my usual 'meta' of lurking will not be the case here.

Given that the time for introductory posts is over and you have the gist of what it entailed, lets move on to something actually productive.


I'd like to know why Broodking is making a pressure vote, yet following it up with 'oh its just a joke', completely invalidating any pressure that may have come with it.


This is not town Adam. Town Adam is fearless, open with his thoughts, and votes at the drop of a hat. In fact, here's town Adam's opinion of my play from our last game together, our first newbie game:

On December 05 2011 01:38 Adam4167 wrote:
///
My thoughts on Blazinghands aggression so far is that I feel he is trying to generate discussion. However, I question whether he is trying too hard to establish himself as a townie by his badgering. This, coupled with his apparent buddy-buddy relationship with Velinath has me keeping a close eye on both of them as I find it strange that they are apparently “BFF’s” after only 12 hours of play. So to directly answer your question, Tunkeg, I find his behaviour suspicious and erring on the side of Anti-town. 5 separate votes in 12 hours is akin to spam and is just leading the town around in circles, rather than focusing on any one target.

///

I feel that by flinging your vote in every direction, you have cheapened the weight of your vote when you eventually do decide to settle on a target. I also feel the need to point out again that you have had 5 separate votes in 12 hours, which is almost half of the players participating.

You’ve caught my attention Blazinghand, don’t slip =).


This is a response of a player who doesn't already know the alignment of the guy he's talkign with, a player who's trying to reason things out and learn. He wants to use my activity as a tool for himself (in this game I threw a vote on him very early with minimal evidence as well). He wants to figure out what I'm doing, who I am, and how to use me to find scum, if I'm not scum. He immediately channels his responses to the early aggression into useful channels.

He does none of that this game.

Adam is scum. Easy.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
October 31 2012 20:50 GMT
#202
On November 01 2012 04:56 gonzaw wrote:
Yo I guess you don't care about the posting restriction anymore BH? Well I might do that with my bigger posts, since they come off horrible when trying to fit my thoughts into the restriction; although it'd stiffle discussion a lot (for instance now I can't discuss with you anything and once you can post again the thread of the discussion will be lost basically).


Xena, you make some good points, although you seem to be ignoring his pressure of BKE; do you think him pressuring BKE looking at his past games and shit would be "a player who's trying to reason things out and learn" or not? Zoo, again because you haven't mentioned that.

Also, again I'd like your thoughts on Keirathi. Boldly I feel that he hasn't done much ever since I called him out, he just kept hung on the Chezinu issue yet again and posting minimally yet again


Frankly, I'm dissapointed in you, Gonzaw. Usually scum players don't reveal they're not reading the thread until much later in the game. AFter all, you were fully aware that I had previously made a post outside the alphabet rules:

On November 01 2012 04:29 gonzaw wrote:
Natalie it seems like we have more people failing the post restriction >_>

Oh, BH once you come back from your 1 hour detention, could you post your thoughts on Keirathi? Perhaps or you still think Adam is scum for that 1st post of his?

Query him you did but I don't really see why your vote is on him; I'll check it out again though


And that post, in fact, is the one in which I talked about my interaction with the posting restriction.

On November 01 2012 01:22 Blazinghand wrote:
The game is fine and all, and if you want to banter and go back and forth, do it. But the terrible lobstrosity of a post that crossfire puked into the thread is the kind of thing that doesn't help. There are times to break the rules. In a way, chezinu knows this better than anyone here, but hes too busy being chezinu to lead town.

breaking the rules is not a scum move, any more than simply not posting for an hour is a scum move. tons of people have 1+ hour gaps in between their craptacularly bad alphabetical posts-- you should just make decent, good posts instead if you're not in the middle of a conversation.


So, did you not read my post, or did you read my post?

Furthermore, given that there were like 2 posts in the hour between my last post and this one, I'd hardly say i'm stifling discussion. This is also a call-out of crossfire, who thinks his monstrosity of an unreadable post (here) is somehow better than 1 hour intervals between thoughtful, reasonable cases. For what it's worth, I simply think crossfire is bad rather than scum. I'd be interested to know how gonzaw seems to have responded to and yet overlooked my personal view of the alphabet rules. And for what it's worth, I don't utterly ignore them-- I just ignore them when I can write a clearer, better message without them. It's more important I do that than I post more than 1 time per hour.

As a particular response to crossfire's colossal lack of reading comprehension (which goes well with his writing style:

On November 01 2012 05:34 Crossfire99 wrote:
Gonzaw, do you agree with blazing's analysis of adam's meta?
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On November 01 2012 04:44 Blazinghand wrote:
I've been back and posting. Gonzaw. Basically, Adam typically opens up with big paragraphs and direct Q/A (see any of his games for examples of this). However, in games like TL Mafia LI when he rolls scum, he also opens up with big pieces of analysis, and more importantly, he hides behind questioning other players. In NMM III, he jumps in (as a replacement, admittedly), with accusations and direct confrontation against SS.

How is the italicized portion any different from the bold portion? Is not direct Q&A the same as questioning other players, and big paragraphs the same as big pieces of analysis. Judge for yourself and respond, please. Keeping this post in mind as well as his complete lack of trying to play the alphabet game, BH has now registered on my scumdar.


Ready the sentence after your bolds. Adam is a confrontational player as town, and is a questioning player as scum. He opens with votes and cases, NOT with analysis and questioning, when he is town. His opening this game, with analysis and questioning instead of jumping out the gate with a major case, is clearly playing to his scum meta. I'm amazed you read my case and didn't understand this.

I have no interest in commenting on Keirathi at this time. No cases in this game are currently as good as my case on Adam, which gonzaw is oddly non-committal on.
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October 31 2012 20:50 GMT
#203
##FoS: Gonzaw
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October 31 2012 21:55 GMT
#208
Crossfire, I have no issues with you personally. I don't currently think you're scum. You just need to get your act together. You do realize that posting a massive wall of illegible garbage HURTS town, right? That the reason Mementoss is voting you, even though he thinks you have a good chance of flipping town, is that he literally can't understand what you're saying?

As an aside, my posts might not follow the alphabet rule, but i have the correct time between them, and by being clear when I'm not playing along, I'm infinitely more respectful to the spirit of the game than guys who slap letters at the start of their posts. But that' s not even the point. My role PM doesn't say that my job is to earn points in minigames; my Role PM doesn't say that my job is to play in the spirit of WLIIA; my role PM, and your role PMs, if you are town, says you win when all the scum are dead. I will not water down my analysis and play against my win con, and neither should you.

The spirit of this game is lynching scum. Anything less than trying your hardest to win is not appropriate. When this can fit into alphabetical order and get the point across, I'll gladly do it. And when it won't, I will, within the guidelines set out in the OPs, not follow the alphabetical order.

More specifically regarding your critique of my Adam case, you're missing the point again. Adam does eventually get confrontational (and FourFace was an unbelievably, immeasurably bad player who I believe got banned or something), but as scum he is more cautious. He probes first, then leaps. He is playing with his scum mindset this game, or at least he was while he was still posting in the thread. Look at his opening posts-- the questions, the lack of a commitment, and most importantly the lack of a case and a vote-- this is how he plays as scum.




gonzaw-- I'm willing to buy that you did in fact read my post, just not very carefully.

On November 01 2012 01:22 Blazinghand wrote:
The game is fine and all, and if you want to banter and go back and forth, do it. But the terrible lobstrosity of a post that crossfire puked into the thread is the kind of thing that doesn't help. There are times to break the rules. In a way, chezinu knows this better than anyone here, but hes too busy being chezinu to lead town.

breaking the rules is not a scum move, any more than simply not posting for an hour is a scum move. tons of people have 1+ hour gaps in between their craptacularly bad alphabetical posts-- you should just make decent, good posts instead if you're not in the middle of a conversation.


I don't know how this seems to be dogmatically in favor of using the 1-hour wait method at all times or the rhyming method at all times. You should read my posts more clearly and think a bit harder about the game. Part of the reason I'm on your ass is that you're not playing like you normally do. This focus from you, and the lack of serious pressure on multiple targets, that's not like you. The gonzaw I know, when he plays town, has fullisades of questions for everyone. Why just this one Keirathi case? Where's your usual constant interrogation and probing of everyone in the town? I remember your posts as being kinda annoying and having formatting issues, and maybe being unfocused, but also being unrelenting in their pressure on multiple targets. What gives?




By the way, Mementoss, if your reasoning for voting Crossfire is entirely that he is hard to understand, that's fine, but bear in mind you're basically lynching him for being bad and playing anti-town, but not necessarily for playing like scum. I personally read him as a confused townie who doesn't understand he needs to play to his wincon. He'll shape up. He's not a terrible D1 lynch, but honestly if it comes down to it and nobody wants to go for Adam, I'd rather policy one of these inactive guys than do what's essentially a policy lynch on Crossfire for being illegible.
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October 31 2012 23:47 GMT
#214
Actually, in TL 51, I was the only one thinking clearly while two scum tunneled each other and commanded the town's attention.
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November 01 2012 01:12 GMT
#218
No way is BKEXE's vote even remotely justified. Of course, this is because Hopeless1der is clearly town. Probably should try to put some effort into convincing me, BKEXE, cause right now it looks like you are voting without a real case. Query: If you weren't you, would you be convinced by your own case right now? Response: probably not. So, I fully anticipate you add to it immediately.
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November 01 2012 14:25 GMT
#243
Strongandbig, get off your high horse. Nobody's breaking the rules by not following the alphabet game. Basically, you can post once an hour or you have to post using the alphabet game. The minigames don't have rewards, they're just played for points that don't matter in this game, and create a posting restriction. Choosing to be legible and have larger, non-alphabetical posts that have hour gaps in between them is an entirely viable choice. In fact, given that most people in this game have made ~10 posts over the course of 30 hours, I daresay it's completely viable to follow the 1-hour rule instead of the alphabet rule. The chief rule is playing to your wincon, and nothing else matters.

Since you're around, what do you think of Adam? You made a pretty useless comment about his self-imposed time out earlier, and asked me about his posting after I voted, to which I have responded. I'd like to hear your comments.

For anyone who thinks the Adam case is just meta, let me stir this in for you: we're 30+ hours in, and Adam has only taken one real position-- his vote on mementoss (link). He's backtracked everything else, and pulled away from any other statements he's made. And his case on mementoss? Pretty meek. Pretty lame. Especially the takedown of Mementoss' dj argument, which I found entirely convincing.

For gonzaw, you spend about 6-7 sentences flip-flopping about on your read on me. If you have something to say, say it-- I'll gladly respond. If you find me too diplomatic, that's fine, but don't end it with "meh". Not staking out a position isn't good for letting us know what you think, and it's not good for letting me respond in an adequate fashion. That being said, I like your pressure on Adam, and I find it telling that he doesn't post a case or push anyone until A) I have called him out for playing his scum meta and B) you also call him out for not making any cases 24+ hours into the game. And by "telling" I mean "Adam is scum"
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November 01 2012 15:38 GMT
#246
Xcellent analysis, S&B. You did a good amount of work, and I can respect that. Zero days, a few hours left to the deadline approaching, so I'm willing to vote for BKEXE-- his placing a vote on obvious townie Hope1 with no reasoning makes no sense to me.

As far as Adam's backtracking, it's worth noting that changing your mind is not a scumtell, but arbitrarily shifting your views with no reasoning is. Basically anything that obfuscates town understanding what's going on is bad. Crossfire is guilty of this, but in my view his transgressions are not willfull, but accidental. Don't think he's off the hook-- I expect him to get more on the ball as the game continues.
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November 01 2012 15:39 GMT
#247
dicks
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November 01 2012 15:39 GMT
#248
e-dicks
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November 01 2012 20:52 GMT
#261
When it was posted on twitter it was 3:20 AM PST - 31 Oct 12:


Xcellent catch, Hopeless1, not sure what to make of BKEXE, since 3:20 AM PST is 1900 KST, or forum time. You know, it's not at all lined up with what BKEXE claims. Zero credibility on this, BKEXE. Are you going to explain yourself?
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November 01 2012 21:09 GMT
#264
Entirely your fault, BKEXE. Friendly word of advice is to post in the voting thread when you vote, as you have now done. Getting down to brass tacks: you need to vote for someone other than Hopeless1. He's not scummy and you're wasting your vote and hurting town. It's simple: vote for scum instead. Just at least make a case against someone else, cause Hopeless is NOT getting lynched today.
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November 01 2012 22:45 GMT
#275
I see we are generally unconvinced by my Adam case. Just fine, we will be able to lynch him tomorrow, so I'm willing to lynch BKEXE or Gonzaw if everyone's sticking to the "we want to give Adam a second chance for no apparent reason, even though it doesn't make sense and he's playing to his scum meta" stance. Keirathi's addition to the Gonzaw case is highly convincing. Left with this choice, I hereby ##vote: Gonzaw, but will gladly vote BKEXE if Gonzaw is not a realistic lynch today.
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November 01 2012 23:05 GMT
#280
Totally hilarious that Chez' defense for his inactivity is that since he doesn't have a defense, he must be town. Under normal circumstances scum would give a good excuse, so his lack of an excuse... exonerates him?
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November 01 2012 23:09 GMT
#282
When it's a "ninja" that means the following player continues on as if it was correct with no delay, right?
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November 01 2012 23:58 GMT
#292
Know I am here, Mementoss! Lo, I consolidate onto ##vote: BKEXE. My vote will prevent your horrible mislynch. No way is Mementoss Lynch a good idea today.
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November 01 2012 23:58 GMT
#293
Only one hour remains, mr Gonzaw.
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November 02 2012 00:00 GMT
#295
Pleased you must be to see you have escaped my noose today. Quand tomorrow arrives, you and Adam shall surely be the subjects of scrutiny most dire.
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November 02 2012 00:01 GMT
#297
Really, gonzaw? So you "accidentally" made a mis-lettering with less than an hour to go? Scum. Totally scum. Unbelievable that nobody wants to lynch you.
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November 02 2012 00:02 GMT
#298
Very well, to summarize at least since you can't response, there's a bad mementoss wagon, and you need to either self-vote or vote for BKEXE.
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November 02 2012 00:10 GMT
#304
Xcellent play-- hen it comes down to it, you have a very very convenient timing to screw up your post and not be able to talk. You should vote for BKEXE.
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November 02 2012 00:13 GMT
#306
Zero is the amount of willingness I have to interact with you, but that is a reasonable question. Actually it's largely because the case against him is somewhat nonexistent and although his play hasn't been great, his voting isn't wholly unjustified. Back when he had his ill-advised post, I spoke to him about it, and that's all I have on him for now. Can't you see this kind of last-minute wagon is exactly what scum wants? Don't tell me you don't see that-- or perhaps you are scum and want this.
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November 02 2012 00:14 GMT
#307
just for a definitive re-question on ninja-ing, I can still post, right?
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November 02 2012 00:35 GMT
#311
Even ninjas that happen at the same time, such that you refresh, see no posts, hit submit, and his post is above yours?
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November 02 2012 01:07 GMT
#322
lol he didn't claim...
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November 02 2012 01:08 GMT
#324
well, dinner time. vigis shoot gonzaw and adam tonight
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November 02 2012 01:10 GMT
#328
crumb or no crumb he should have claimed anyways. well, no use crying over spilled noobs
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November 02 2012 05:08 GMT
#337
I'd like to amend that-- vigi, shoot adam over gonzaw. Explanation and thoughts will take place just before dawn, as well as the usual posting of reads.
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November 02 2012 05:42 GMT
#339
If you're really so confident in your innocence and its obviousness, then you have nothing to fear-- surely the vigi will be convinced by your towniness and you will not be shot.
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November 02 2012 06:14 GMT
#341
Justice is blind, Adam.
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November 02 2012 07:27 GMT
#343
I don't know yet, and as a rule I don't draw associative tells between unflipped players. I'm serious, though, if you really think you've done a good job this game of proving yourself and contributing to the town, you have nothing to worry about.
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November 02 2012 07:29 GMT
#344
Actually, aside from your sniping at gonzaw and your extraordinarily gentle prod of Mementoss, I don't know what you think. I've given my town reads and my scum reads, yet you're here asking me for a third scum read and nobody in the thread knows what you think.

If you weren't you, but someone else trying to read your filter, you'd be like "damn this Adam guy is scum" but of course, you're you so instead you're like "I am scum lololooooo"
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November 02 2012 16:53 GMT
#356
if i give you my points can you use them to kill Adam
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November 03 2012 01:00 GMT
#381
On November 03 2012 09:56 Stutters695 wrote:
Well I had a more lengthy post typed up but when TL went down I lost it. General gist of it was I don't quite see how it makes more sense to suggest viging Adam over the guy who waited until his vote was meaningless before casting it and not really putting up a fight to try and get his target chosen. I haven't checked his previous games yet so that might be in line with his meta but through my first read of the thread that really stood out the most.


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November 03 2012 02:13 GMT
#384
I'm glad he got on his zaw, if you know what I mean. That QT link really took me down btw-- nicely done.
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November 03 2012 02:23 GMT
#386
I didn't think you'd be so stiff about this, Hopeless1der. Thanks for the point, though.
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November 03 2012 02:30 GMT
#389
Well, since it's just the two of us, alone, in here, we should talk. With gonzaw dead I'm thinking about our options for the lynch today. I'm still liking my case on Adam a bit, but now that gonzaw, is, erm, gon, we can draw an associative tell with his voting pattern on Mementoss, PARTICULARY this post:
On November 02 2012 09:58 gonzaw wrote:
##Unvote: Mementos
##Vote: Mementos


Whose sole purpose was to make sure Mementoss did not get lynched. I know I cut Mementoss some slack on his questionable Crossfire vote, but this new context brings me to believe he's scum.

##vote Mementoss
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November 03 2012 06:16 GMT
#394
pretty fishy...? lol that's nasty
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November 03 2012 06:56 GMT
#396
"you know what I mean" is getting pretty tiring as a line. It was okay the first time, but come on guys. So predictable, so boring
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November 03 2012 06:56 GMT
#397
Also yeah whoever vigged gonzaw is a suave sexy guy. Probably really smart and handsome
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November 03 2012 21:07 GMT
#424
actually I'd say that's bad personally
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November 03 2012 21:07 GMT
#425
but i'm not a rocket scientist
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November 03 2012 21:07 GMT
#426
well, bad for you at least
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November 03 2012 21:19 GMT
#429
see you can't just tack on "if you know what I mean" to the end of a sentence that doesn't have an alternative dirting meaning.

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November 03 2012 22:14 GMT
#441
You're right mementoss, the proper attitude for you to take in this situation is to do what you're doing now.

Look, I'm a flexible guy. I talk with people. I'll banter, or even interact with you-- if by some horrible mischance, you are town, your thoughts will be valuable, since after you flip you'd be a confirmed townie. If you're scum, of course, you'll avoid meaningful interaction. So why don't we interact and see how things go?
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November 03 2012 22:14 GMT
#443
Or of course you could be scum and get all pissy-- but I don't think a town Mementoss would do that.
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November 03 2012 22:17 GMT
#445
I'm saying you should hunt scum.
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November 03 2012 22:27 GMT
#451
lol yeah right
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November 04 2012 02:45 GMT
#489
Hopeless is 100% town and anyone who thinks he is scum is 100% wrong. Stop wasting your time and mine and hunt real scum, Adam. Hopeless is town.
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November 04 2012 05:06 GMT
#491
If you would reconsider your vote and talk about hopeless, all it does is waste our time. I guess it tells us a bit about you but that's it. He's town and you're either blind or willfully not seeing that. I don't even get it dude.
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November 04 2012 05:12 GMT
#493
Like literally Chezinu "giving himself points" here in the thread is more useful than discussion about hopeless1. And Chezinu suffers from a bad case of "is Chezinu" so that tells you something.
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November 04 2012 05:12 GMT
#494
no disrespect to chezinu of course

he's a bro

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November 04 2012 05:14 GMT
#498
Truly it is a sad day
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November 04 2012 05:20 GMT
#506
On November 04 2012 14:14 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 14:06 Blazinghand wrote:
If you would reconsider your vote and talk about hopeless, all it does is waste our time. I guess it tells us a bit about you but that's it. He's town and you're either blind or willfully not seeing that. I don't even get it dude.

Whatever, I'm not going to start an argument with you, because I think you're town and have good intentions. And, I don't even think you're necessarily *WRONG* about Hopeless being town, since I've believed he was town most of the game, but the fact that you're unwilling to reevaluate in light of new information just blows my mind.


I've re-evaluated, and my re-evaluation is that Hopeless is still totally town. I suppose we can agree to disagree, but any vote for Hopeless1 is a vote to lynch a townie, and a vote I cannot abide.
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November 04 2012 05:39 GMT
#514
yeah you gotta explore all corners. can't just like get blinded by a townread, dude
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November 04 2012 18:18 GMT
#545
I don't get how there was every any doubt that Mementoss = scum and Hopeless = town
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November 04 2012 20:05 GMT
#568
Mementoss lynch may have been a bad idea D1 but it's the best of all possible ideas D2. I never said I was perfect-- just that I'm right now, like I always am.
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November 05 2012 02:06 GMT
#604
On November 05 2012 09:46 Adam4167 wrote:
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On November 05 2012 09:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
Adam, I don't feel the need to convince you. I'm going to be stupidly difficult to lynch, especially today. You're "process" of elimination wouldn't have been that scummy, but it is significantly flawed. You're taking things at face value that should not be so easily accepted for someone with your information. The manner in which you reason things out suggests scum motive to me.


I am not trying to get you lynched today, its Mementoss turn to dance the hempen jig.

Your turn is tomorrow, but I may as well make my thoughts known today, as its a slow news day and someone will most probably die tonight.


Hopeless is not scum and you are literally 100% wrong if you think he's scum, or want to waste a lynch on him. Anyone who disagrees with me on this will be shot tonight.
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November 05 2012 02:11 GMT
#605
On November 05 2012 09:49 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 09:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
EBWOP: Unless he's scum, then yeah, he has special info.


The only 'special information' that I have access to is having your entire team pinned by the end of day 1.

I have my reads, I back them in to be right.


All you do by attacking hopeless is make yourself look scummier, Adam.
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November 05 2012 02:21 GMT
#607
I'm not sure for a third scumread. right now, I'd say Adam, but I'll have more just before dawn. But I'm sure as hell on this town read: Hopeless is town. Anyone who thinks he is scum right now is blind or willfully turning their face from the truth. Why the hell is there so much resistance on this? Can't you guys realize Hopeless1 is town?

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November 05 2012 02:22 GMT
#608
Keirathi your statement isn't entirely unreasonable. If you don't want to lynch Hopeless1 then you are correct. But if you would even consider voting for him your head is in the sand, it is in the sand like an ostrich's head when it is frightened.

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November 05 2012 02:23 GMT
#609
I guess the easiest solution is lynch scum tomorrow so there's no LYLO, and you don't make a fool of yourself by considering Hopeless1 as a lynch.
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November 05 2012 23:27 GMT
#625
How long until daybreak?
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November 06 2012 00:02 GMT
#628
daylight savings time dude
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November 06 2012 00:22 GMT
#633
No idea. Unrelated note: what are your thoughts on Hopeless1?
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November 06 2012 00:28 GMT
#635
You also, btw, can't rule out the possibility of you being shot by scum. So you might want to make that daybreak post anyways. I know i'll be making one.
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November 06 2012 00:31 GMT
#638
God what is it with you people and not thinking Hopeless1 is town? He's 100% town.
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#639
Well, it should be fairly obvious that I'm a blue. Like S&B, I convert points into night actions. Hopeless1 and I are mod-confirmed town to each other, but aren't masons. He's been feeding me his points each night, which I've been using for a variety of abilities. Last night I shot gonzaw, of course. The 6th donut is a reference to the fact that I write 6 unnecessary "o"s at the end of a lolol-- and the 6th player was gonzaw. The Adam deception was to throw off a mafia medic and RBer, if such existed.

So yeah, if I flip, don't kill Hopeless. I will be very surprised if I flip though. In any case, Hopeless gave me his points so I could turn them into night actions again, and I'm shooting Chezinu. It was a tough choice between him and Adam, but Chezinu is unreadable to me and doesn't react to pressure and questions in a way that would let me get a town or scumread on him. He is a liability and is worth killing via KP rather than Lynch.

I've also used 2 other night actions, but neither of those will matter until just after daybreak. If I get roleblocked, Chez will live. It's possible Mafia can spend points in the same way town can, but unlikely. I'm intentionally not claiming my name, and Hopeless, you don't do it either. IF scum claims blue they'll need to make some guesses.
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November 06 2012 01:00 GMT
#640
I'm inclined to think that SnB is our fourth blue, which means we'll have 3 confirmed town today. If there's a blue who's not me, Hopeless, or SnB, speak now or forever hold your peace.
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November 06 2012 01:04 GMT
#642
I'm pretty sure S&B is confirmed town regardless. If there's a player who's not me or S&B and is blue, he should claim immediately, then we claim names, and lynch the two with the same name. If S&B is scum, he's already dead because of this strat.
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November 06 2012 01:05 GMT
#643
Who's not me, S&B, or Hopeless1, rather. The point is, if there's an unclaimed blue, claim blue now, then after that we all claim names and town wins.
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November 06 2012 01:07 GMT
#645
Yeah, that's also true. We're looking forwards to a very strong day today with 2-3 confirmed town, depending on whether one of us gets shot. I'm pretty sure we all have Veteran power today, but Hopeless might have sent me ALL of his points, or maybe he can't spend points at all, in which case he could have died.
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November 06 2012 01:09 GMT
#647
yeah, it passed a few minutes ago. Right now night actions can't be changed, so we're all good.
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#648
Sorry about roleclaiming for you, btw. I think this was the right move. Might have been worth it to mason you first and talk it over, but meh
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#652
How many? I got two amounts, one smaller than the other.
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#653
Yeah I'm sure S&B splurged on the Veteran power. He was claimed in-thread so he had to.
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#658
Will do, S&B. Did you shoot anyone or anything we should know?
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#660
I think I know what happened here...

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November 06 2012 01:57 GMT
#667
Mitt Romney.

Didn't do any checks. I shot Chez, Veteraned Myself and Masoned someone. In all likelihood scum shot SnB or me. In any case, Keirathi, Sutters, and Crossfire are the three non-confirmed townies right now.

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Worst Comedian: Louis the Pious

I agree with Hopeless. Everyone who's not confirmed town, claim points given and exactly who you gave it to. Then Hopeless, S&B and I will claim our point receipts and donations.

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#676
Crossfire, how many points did you give, and to whom, and on what night?
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#677
FUCK be back in an hour
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#687
Milwaukee's Best Ice AKA "the black death"
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#689
I have received 500 points just now.
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#690
oh, crap, I forgot again.
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November 06 2012 22:42 GMT
#692
World's Worst Restaurant: The Smithsonian.

I really don't care whether or not there's an SK or a third party or whatever. Veteran and Vigi shot are both fairly expensive so I can't guarantee that we'll all be able to shoot the two survivors AND all be veteraned, but I spent some points to Mason up with either S&B or Hopeless1 and we'll determine how to distribute the points, who gets to be a veteran, and who vigi/dts who, privately. Scum will not have an opportunity to listen to us talk about it in the thread.

To the one of us who isn't in the Masonry, I'm sorry, but I didn't have the points for it last night. I'll display a set of options here in the thread and give you my spare points enough to do whatever extra stuff beyond Veteraning yourself that needs to be done tonight by you, if anything. At the very least though you will need to Veteran yourself, though you should have enough points on hand to do that already. If you have spare points to give me, that's fine too-- but we can work that out once night starts.

I'm gonna sit down and look at filters, and we can decide who we want to lynch today. Currently, the townies with the most information in this game are the unconfirmed ones, since they know their own alignments plus that of the confirmed townies. I 100% expect all three of you to make an extensive post on which of you is scum. If you don't do that, I don't see how you're playing to your win-con. It's entirely possible for scum still to win. The reason I know this is that the last scum hasn't surrendered yet-- he still thinks he can win.

I'm gonna read some filters and be back in a few hours. Any unconfirmed townie who doesn't make a case against, or at least specify which, of the other unconfirmed townies he thinks is scum, is hurting town.

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#695
World's Worst Potato Chip: Intel

Why claim performers? WE know there's exactly 3 blues alive, that should be enough. By not claiming performers, we deny scum the ability to know who they are counterclaiming if he claims blue.

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November 07 2012 02:32 GMT
#699
Risk

Chezinu did not send you his points-- He sent me a 663 points, then I shot him and recieved 1337 points. All of Chezinu's points are accounted for.

Also, I was shot last night, so all shots last night are accounted for.

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November 07 2012 03:02 GMT
#705
Worst food: Foie Gras Pate

Hopeless1 do you have the power to ##involve? We could use it as a day-DT check if so.
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November 07 2012 03:02 GMT
#706
oops, forgot a question. Here we go:

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November 07 2012 04:51 GMT
#711
Starbucks!

Blues should not claim names. There's literally no benefit to it. All it does is let you know who you're up against if you counterclaim, Crossfire. There's no need to give you that information.

##vote: Crossfire


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November 07 2012 04:54 GMT
#712
Legless Table

##involve: Keirathi


This will tell us Keirathi's alignment at the start of the night.

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November 07 2012 04:57 GMT
#714
Sports Utility Vehicle

Well, I see no reason to worry about it too much. I have a day-DT thing I can use on you, then we can shoot/lynch whoever is left out of the unconfirmed townies.

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November 07 2012 05:21 GMT
#717
fountain pen. those things are so bad

Tell you what, I'm masoned with S&B. I'll just ask him for his name. I know Hopeless' name and my name, so we'll be fine.

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November 07 2012 06:04 GMT
#719
Arial narrow.

I've confirmed with S&B. He, Hopeless1 and I all have the correct names.

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November 07 2012 06:16 GMT
#721
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial

Personally I think you should just vote whatever unconfirmed you think is scummiest. Crossfire is probably best though. As long as the confirmed players vote as a bloc, what you guys do is irrelevant (unless one of you self-votes). I personally found the case against Crossfire to be quite convincing, so I voted him. I'm also using a power on you to basically dt check you, so at the start of N1 we'll know your alignment-- so we should either lynch Crossfire or Stutters today. In the event that Crossfire is in fact town, we'll still get a guaranteed win because I'll have the check result on you at the start of N1. We can just use our last shot on either you or the other, and even if there was a framer or a godfather involved, it'll be 2-1 lylo tomorrow with 2 confirmed townies...

basically lynch crossfire, we can't lose

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November 07 2012 08:36 GMT
#724
Dirty Harry would also probably be a terrible neighbor.

If it really comes down to it, town could pool points for 2 vigi shots tonight, on two unconfirmed. Even if the scum guy is NK-immune we'll at least make it into a 2-1 lylo with two confirmed town. I'm really not clear on how scum even possibly wins this. Perhaps he's just not very bright. Are we missing something here?

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November 07 2012 12:54 GMT
#726
Stalin

Well, truth be told, our powers and what we're able to buy all differ slightly. We all have access to Veteran and can all make vigi shots, but in terms of medic saves, RBs, tracking, and day actions, we all have different menus.

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November 07 2012 21:38 GMT
#739
Lost. I could never understand it.

Well, despite pushing us a tick closer to LYLO, Crossfire did make today a bit simpler by getting himself modkilled.

##unvote
##vote: Stutters695


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November 07 2012 22:28 GMT
#741
Orson Scott Card. He's totally overrated.

For what it's worth, if I weren't already using my DT check on Kei, i'd be lynching him over you.

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November 08 2012 02:02 GMT
#755
I don't have enough points for a vigi. I'll RB Keirathi. Hopeless and S&B, you guys both shoot him to get through any veteran stuff he uses/has.
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November 08 2012 02:04 GMT
#758
Keirathi is trying to play us into shooting S&B so he can shoot one of us and get a draw tomorrow. Don't be swayed.
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November 08 2012 02:13 GMT
#762
Keirathi, I don't need to consider the possibility, because it's not a possibility. You literally must be scum. Hopeless1 is mod-confirmed town to me. S&B claimed the correct name to me in the thread and has been using his points for the town. Stick a fork in you, you're done. I don't know why you stalled this long but the game is over in 24 hours.
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November 08 2012 02:15 GMT
#763
Actually, there's no harm in it. Just as a matter of course, I would like to be able to afford vet status tonight. I don't suppose you have 150 spare dollar/points, S&B?
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November 08 2012 02:17 GMT
#765
See here's the thing, Keirathi, if you really wanted to make sure I could afford Vet status, you would have given your points to me. It's pretty obvious you want to shoot me tonight and want Hopeless to shoot S&B. I'm the one who needs points.
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November 08 2012 02:25 GMT
#767
Bleagh I don't really know why I'm talking to you anyways. See you in the post-game chat.

Hopeless or S&B 150 would let me Veteran, and 400 would let me Veteran *and* roleblock Keirathi to stop any shenanigans tonight. Make sure to mention it in the thread when you give me points so you don't both do it. Make sure you still have enough points to Veteran + Vigi, Hopeless, and you still have enough points to Vigi, S&B.

I'll be checking in occasionally.
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November 08 2012 02:34 GMT
#769
It didn't do anything, because N3 uses dollars rather than cash-- so I didn't get a check back on Keirathi's alignment. it *did* waste some of my money though. How much do you have?
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November 08 2012 02:38 GMT
#772
See you after the flip, Keirathi. You are a pretty convincing guy, but really there's zero way you're town.
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November 08 2012 02:38 GMT
#773
sure. He claimed the guy who wasn't you or me: Wayne Brady

Here's his crumb
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November 08 2012 02:38 GMT
#774
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378652&currentpage=7#140
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November 08 2012 02:39 GMT
#775
I don't really get it. But Brady is the 3rd blue.

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November 08 2012 04:47 GMT
#783
Ok, that gives me enough for both a RB and a Veteran usage. However, what I'd really like to do is also afford a Mirror. S&B I dunno how many points you have but in terms of Veteran usage you really don't need it since any end-game win from Keirathi is based on mislynching you. If you have 500 extra points and could send them my way that would be great.

Hopeless1, you have enough points to shoot Keirathi and Vet yourself, right?
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November 08 2012 07:34 GMT
#785
Do you have enough to just shoot? Whatever # of points you need to both shoot and Vet, ask S&B for them. You and I can trust each other implicitly and it's far more important that we both live than that he lives. Especially if somehow Keirathi survives the night-- the two people using Vet power tonight should absolutely be me and you because we are mod-confirmed town. S&B should give you whatever points he needs beyond the minimum for vigging Keirathi (since we want both of you to fire)

Sounds good?
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November 08 2012 07:36 GMT
#786
Basically the minimum setup we want is this:

Hopeless: Vet and shoot Keirathi
Me: Vet and RB Keirathi
S&B: shoot keirathi

If we do this, we can't lose. Even if something weird happens, the only one of us he can kill is S&B, and then we lynch him tomorrow.

If it turns out there's not enough points, we do this instead:

Hopeless: Vet
Me: Vet and RB Keirathi
S&B: shoot keirathi

And if Keirathi survives the night somehow we just lynch him tomorrow.
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November 08 2012 19:59 GMT
#788
You need 1050 more?

well, just vet yourself. S&B can handle the shooting tonight. anyone around between now and daybreak?
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November 08 2012 20:41 GMT
#790
kk
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November 09 2012 01:39 GMT
#802
Keirathi, your meddling will not work. Hopeless, if you don't get mod confirmation in time, just sent in the vet and shot night actions anyways and when igrok reads his pms he'll know what you meant.

DO NOT shoot S&B. shoot Keirathi.
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November 09 2012 01:44 GMT
#804
Keirathi's just mad his meddling isn't working. He's not a bad actor. Shoot him. Shoot him dead.
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November 09 2012 01:46 GMT
#807
Do NOT listen to Keirathi. He's like 100% trying to get us to only put one shot on him, because he has vet status, and he wants to RB+shoot you or me while we shoot S&B. His lies SHALL NOT prevail.

Hopeless, even if you dont' have the confirmation from igrok yet, send him a pm like this:

"If I received 1050 pts and haven't been informed about it yet, use the extra points to vet + shoot Keirathi. If not, just vet"
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November 09 2012 01:50 GMT
#808
Hopeless1 you got that? Send a contigent PM. Only a few minutes left in the night right now...
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November 09 2012 01:52 GMT
#811
On November 09 2012 10:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
But...I can do math.

Also, conditional voting is almost never allowed, why would conditional night actions\point transfers? If I don't get allowed a grace period upon mod return, I'll be sad.


SEND THE DAMN PM DUDE

Christ.
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November 09 2012 01:54 GMT
#812
Look, 100% it's fine to say "if I have these points, I want to use them. If not, please vet."

Don't assume a grace period cause all that will do is waste your points.
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November 09 2012 01:55 GMT
#813
AT THE VERY LEAST send in a Vet night action please. Assuming you'll get a grace period will just get you killed dude.
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#816
How can you waste points you don't have? You can't waste points you don't have, dude. I don't even get your logic.
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November 09 2012 01:58 GMT
#817
Like, how does saying "if i have these points and you haven't PMed me about them yet, please use them to shoot Keirathi" not a good thing to send him

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#818
Well I hope you're happy
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#820
Dude, the most important base to cover is making sure we shoot scum. We can just vote for the other guy in the morning, points do NOT matter
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November 09 2012 02:02 GMT
#822
You're not making me angry so much as you're just being wrong, and you being wrong makes me sad. Honestly if you weren't mod-confirmed town to me this bad decisionmaking would have made me shoot you.
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November 09 2012 02:07 GMT
#824
Nice ploy Keirathi but it's too late to change night actions now!
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November 09 2012 02:09 GMT
#827
Lol it's kinda funny how angry you were this game. I suppose I should apologize for playing so well?
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November 09 2012 02:11 GMT
#830
On November 09 2012 11:11 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 11:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Lol it's kinda funny how angry you were this game. I suppose I should apologize for playing so well?

Angry I was this game?

I was angry in GSL 3. I didn't rage even once this game until just now because you've got your head so far up your ass that you can't even see daylight.


<3 I'll save this one for the post game
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#831
Seriously dude Keirathi sorry if this all goes badly and scum wins. But I did what was necessary. I always do.
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#834
You really need to tone down the anger dude. It's fine.
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November 09 2012 02:22 GMT
#836
Yeah I lied about how many points I had left. I shot S&B. <3
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November 09 2012 02:24 GMT
#838
He might still be alive after all this though, but if so Hopeless and I can just lynch him tomorrow. I really don't see how he thought he was gonna win. He slipped a bit in the thread and also in our mason QT.
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November 09 2012 02:26 GMT
#841
Yeah but with both me and Hopeless1 in Veteran mode I'm not sure he can do anything. Can scum even spend points? I guess we'll see.
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November 09 2012 02:28 GMT
#843
Blegh well that will be annoying. I was trying to milk him for enough points to roleblock him in addition to shooting him but I guess it didn't work out. At least we can just lynch him tomorrow if we're both alive. Keep on refreshing, and quick-vote him at the start of the day so he gets lynched first.
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#844
in a 1-1 situation whoever votes first wins
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November 09 2012 03:04 GMT
#849
Strongandbig the case is there,
you haven't played very town.
Your night actions have done nothing
so we're taking you down.

Hopeless never got those points
which you said you gave out
and Keirathi lives on
So now I'm gonna vote you like a trout
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November 09 2012 03:06 GMT
#851
That being said, I'm the confirmed town
Which means my vote is all that matters
but it also means i have the least info
and all our crap is in tatters

so I'd like to hear you make
a case to kill keirathi
in fact it is possible to make one
just don't be mad and let your mouth get all... frothy
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November 09 2012 03:08 GMT
#853
Keirathi your vote was gonna be on him anyways
because i'm the confirmed town, you two will vote each other.
In any case, all that crap after the deadline could have easily been an act
I'm gonna read up on S&B's night actions my brother

because yes I think he's scum
but I would like to be sure. I didn't actually shoot him last night
that was a bluff to see what you'd say-- I didn't have the points for it
and I was hoping you'd react with fright
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#854
aww dickbutts fine i'll be back in 12 hours
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November 09 2012 03:14 GMT
#855
Can I have leniency for those past two posts? It wasn't super clear in the day post that I needed to end the posts that way. Alternatively could we have a 48 hour day
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#856
Or I guess really just for that one post after your reminder. I didn't see the reminder.
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#858
<3

So yeah I mean I'm just hanging out
with the cool kids here in the thread
wondering where everyone is
you might even say that in here it is dead

regardless I wonder if someone could say
a reason for me to not lynch strongandbig
all things considered it'd just liket o know
but you know what if you're not gonna swing by S&B it's not big
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#859

Oh, ei-didie-didie-didie-didie-didie-didie!
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November 09 2012 17:46 GMT
#889
Well at least I got gonzaw.

S&B you really had me fooled up until you made this post in our mason QT:
i guess we should game out the possibilities. You mentioned something in-thread about godfathers and framers - do you have any idea how ##involving works if there's a godfather?


As soon as you made that post I decided to shoot you in the coming night. That post can only come from a scum mindset. It's too bad you had vet status or were NK-immune or whatever it'd have been awesome to kill two scum. If only I also had enough points to RB you last night in addition to shooting you! Still, even with the slip you played well enough that you probably won if you could steal me and Keirathi's votes today (or even one vote, really). Good work.

BKEXE I'd have really liked to see a blue claim from you. I REALLY would like to know why you didn't claim.

Overall, I had lots of fun, good game everyone. Thanks to iGrok for hosting!
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November 09 2012 17:47 GMT
#894
You could just RB+Shoot us or double-shoot us if we pulled a stunt like that right
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#895
In any case I declare this draw a Blazinghand victory for pure sexiness, manliness, and general ballertude
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November 09 2012 17:50 GMT
#898
I assume he did. All you need is one votesteal to win at that point.
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#901
Ah, that's interesting. Well, what are you gonna do right. He *did* have to spend points on vet, too. I was hoping he'd get sloppy and not do that so I could just shoot him and end it.
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November 09 2012 18:06 GMT
#911
Man whatever wacky schemes there might be with points or night actions, that's not really how I think. I shoot scum, and use vet if I have points for it, and lynch scum in the day. The ##involve felt pretty wacky and was mostly there to see if S&B was really town or not. I didn't actually send in the ##involve until after Crossfire got modkilled.
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November 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#913
Dude S&B you couldn't have convinced me at all, I was trying to shoot you, then I voted you and went afk. You were dead unless you stole a vote.
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November 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#915
Well, his filter did look a bit townie, but in our Mason QT he scumslipped hard and revealed a scum mentality. He wasn't convincing me.
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November 09 2012 18:09 GMT
#919
On November 10 2012 03:08 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?

Your filter didn't look townie in the least bit. Lol.


only because you read it knowing I was scum. confirmation bias.

otherwise presumably someone would have read it and called me scum? Maybe?


I shot you. Does that count? I voted you. That should also count. If you weren't stealing a vote, you were dead.
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 18:12:09
November 09 2012 18:10 GMT
#921
On November 10 2012 03:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

I completely disagree with this point. BH and Keir were 100% committed to killing you before the Night ended.


At this point, I'm done arguing it. keir and S&B were obviously gonna vote each other, and I was voting S&B and had shot him the previous night. If he wants to think he was gonna win, that's his prerogative. We'll have to agree to disagree. You can take a horse to water, but that's it.
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November 09 2012 18:17 GMT
#928
Gonzaw the reason you looked scummy is your analysis and your play was very different from your town play. You pressure multiple people and post big old multi-pronged walls of text as town. I mean yeah that thing with the fake bad post and the voting at the end of D1 did you no favors but you were my top scumread.
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November 09 2012 18:19 GMT
#931
How were you gonna win? Keirathi and I were voting for you? Just explain to me how you were going to win.
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November 09 2012 18:23 GMT
#933
I definitely had fun playing this game as well.
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November 09 2012 18:27 GMT
#938
Perhaps you're right; perhaps I wouldn't have been able to get people to lynch you for meta, but I've lynched townier players on weaker meta cases than that. At the very least, next time you roll scum try to pay attention to how your scum meta is different than your town meta and play more like your town game. It may not have been obvious to the others, but it was to me. And after this game, people can point and say "look! meta cases against Gonzaw are good!"

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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 18:30:15
November 09 2012 18:28 GMT
#940
I gladly lynch people just on meta all the time. It's an underrated tool.

EDIT: I guess maybe I should say i gladly vote people, not lynch people. Sometimes I manage to get the lynch off, like on prplhz in that one mini
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 18:34:26
November 09 2012 18:33 GMT
#947
I never pay attention to IRL excuses under any circumstances. Easily lied about.

Edit: In a way, I almost consider talking about IRL excuses "cheating" in the sense that it's a non-defense that people for whatever reason accept. If I'm ever away from the thread for a period of time, I never give a reason for it. Mafia is about mafia, and that's it.
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 18:39:43
November 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#952
Man gonzaw just read your posts this game and your posts in any town game. I don't normally FoS you but I've obsed enough games with you in it to know that you don't play like a spear, you play like a trident. Or a ball of needles. You poke a lot, and at a lot of people. You have to at least *try* to emulate that as scum, or at least recognize that you weren't doing that this game, or your scum play simply won't improve. That's my advice.

EDIT:

On November 10 2012 03:37 strongandbig wrote:
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On November 10 2012 03:33 Blazinghand wrote:
I never pay attention to IRL excuses under any circumstances. Easily lied about.

Edit: In a way, I almost consider talking about IRL excuses "cheating" in the sense that it's a non-defense that people for whatever reason accept. If I'm ever away from the thread for a period of time, I never give a reason for it. Mafia is about mafia, and that's it.


I feel similar, but how I deal with it is never lying about irl circumstances and assuming other people will do the same.

Everything I said in this thread about irl with the night shift and day shift changing was 100% true and would have been exactly as true if I was town.


It doesn't matter whether it would have been true or not. When someone makes an IRL excuse, I just tune it out. Such sentences literally carry no meaning for me. If someone does it enough, it becomes suspicious. But all I pay attention to is when a guy was or wasn't active, regardless of whether he has an excuse for it. I really really don't care, and honestly your inactivity is not the reason I tried to kill you-- I don't view it as scummy. It was being out of thread a bit, and yeah you missed the first 24h of the last day but that didn't mean anything, excuse or no. That stuff is null to me.
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November 09 2012 18:47 GMT
#959
On November 10 2012 03:43 gonzaw wrote:
It would also have been enough to strike a little doubt in your head (you'd tell yourself "maybe he's right? Nah he's scum.....what if he isn't?) and that'd be enough for me.


Lol have you ever played with me?
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:38:20
November 09 2012 19:36 GMT
#979
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him. Overall I didn't particularly trust his blue claim because Wayne Brady is a musician
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:41:09
November 09 2012 19:39 GMT
#981
On November 10 2012 04:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On November 10 2012 04:36 Blazinghand wrote:
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him.

Was my case on S&B not convincing enough?


I erm, probably didn't read it. I usually don't read other people's cases in depth a whole lot unless they're on me or I think there's something to use against them in it (EDIT: or it's a really good case, or from a confirmed townie). I skimmed it I guess. S&B basically made two mistakes this game:

1) a bunch of night actions with no results, a classic fake-claim tell
2) claiming scum to me in the mason QT

By the time you were confirmed town, I had already made up my mind to shoot S&B.
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November 09 2012 19:40 GMT
#984
On November 10 2012 04:39 Keirathi wrote:
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On November 10 2012 04:36 Blazinghand wrote:
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him.

Ah okey, I was hoping but of course I wasn't sure.

Well, my goal wasn't really to "convince you" that I was town. My goal was to convince you both to do whatever it took to ensure that you won, particularly that you should both vet.


Yeah I mean we both played our parts quite well. Being minorly convinced by you to extract points from S&B was pretty awesome.
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:44:23
November 09 2012 19:42 GMT
#986
On November 10 2012 04:40 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On November 10 2012 04:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:36 Blazinghand wrote:
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him.

Was my case on S&B not convincing enough?


I erm, probably didn't read it. I usually don't read other people's cases in depth a whole lot unless they're on me or I think there's something to use against them in it. I skimmed it I guess. S&B basically made two mistakes this game:

1) a bunch of night actions with no results, a classic fake-claim tell
2) claiming scum to me in the mason QT

How do you get by if you don't read peoples cases? lol


I made a stealthy edit. Basically I'm magic, but by the time you were flipped I already knew I was shooting S&B. Case or no case. I mean, I can't really trust other players since they're scum. I guess the big thing is I don't read people's posts to be convinced by them, I read people's posts to get a read on the person who is writing the post.

Basically, if Adam writes a case on Bob, that tells me more about Adam than it does about Bob most of the time. If it's a great case, then it'll tell me stuff about Bob, but if it's a great case, what it really tells me is that Adam isn't scum. Of course in that case I vote against Bob, but the point I'm making is for me, I typically formulate reads based on what people post, then I push people I think are scum. I try not to let other things distract me.

I don't think I'd get along well with another player who played like me.
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November 09 2012 19:56 GMT
#990
On November 10 2012 04:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On November 10 2012 04:48 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:42 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:40 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
On November 10 2012 04:36 Blazinghand wrote:
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him.

Was my case on S&B not convincing enough?


I erm, probably didn't read it. I usually don't read other people's cases in depth a whole lot unless they're on me or I think there's something to use against them in it. I skimmed it I guess. S&B basically made two mistakes this game:

1) a bunch of night actions with no results, a classic fake-claim tell
2) claiming scum to me in the mason QT

How do you get by if you don't read peoples cases? lol


I made a stealthy edit. Basically I'm magic, but by the time you were flipped I already knew I was shooting S&B. Case or no case. I mean, I can't really trust other players since they're scum.

Yeah, but reading other peoples cases can prove to you that they're scum or town. Like I was 100% convinced that Adam was town (he and I might as well have been telepathically linked) because we had the same thoughts on mementoss and gonzaw.

Edit: Lol. you and your stealthy edits strike again.

P.S. I loved you claiming the gonzaw shot. Don't know if you intended with this post but it was what confirmed to me that you did it.
On November 03 2012 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Also yeah whoever vigged gonzaw is a suave sexy guy. Probably really smart and handsome


That HAD to have been intentional. Too bad I was the best looking performer


Yeah that was definitely intentional. I was soft-claiming the vigi shot there. I think I directly claimed it later.
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November 09 2012 20:11 GMT
#992
You can't share points via posting in the thread-- you have to PM. I assume things posted in the thread about point sharing have no impact on the game.
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 20:18:50
November 09 2012 20:18 GMT
#995
Well, he probably also had to PM.

EDIT: ah, well it seems that wasn't the case.
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 22:57:58
November 09 2012 22:57 GMT
#1014
Adam no need to be butthurt I didn't shoot you N1 and I didn't vote for you D2 and I didn't shoot you N2. I called you scum during N1 so that I could freely shoot Gonzaw.

Trust me if I thought you were scum I'd have shot you or lynched you at some point-- I had plenty of bullets. If you were really confident in your own towniness, as I said, you have nothing to fear. You got shot by someone else, dude.
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 23:03:45
November 09 2012 22:59 GMT
#1018
On November 10 2012 07:58 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Sorry, for my horrible play this game, I got confused so hard.


It happens. Next time, though, rolelcaim if you're going to be lynched. We all have games where we play a bit scummy and end up attracting votes, but when you're Blue you have a trump card to play-- you should have played it.

On November 10 2012 07:59 Adam4167 wrote:
I'm not butt at all, just some advice.

I cant help but feel that it probably lead to hopeless shooting me, which was a terrible shot.


I didn't shoot you, I didn't lynch you, and I had numerous opportunities to do both. If you're not personally capable enough to prove yourself townie against a feint from me, that's not my problem. Maybe you should be talking to the guy who shot you, or examining your own play, since you were the one who absorbed a bullet.

EDIT: For what it's worth, I did find you a bit scummy. You weren't really worth a bullet though, and certainly not a lynch.
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 23:10:43
November 09 2012 23:10 GMT
#1022
On November 10 2012 08:07 Adam4167 wrote:
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On November 10 2012 07:59 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 10 2012 07:58 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Sorry, for my horrible play this game, I got confused so hard.


It happens. Next time, though, rolelcaim if you're going to be lynched. We all have games where we play a bit scummy and end up attracting votes, but when you're Blue you have a trump card to play-- you should have played it.

On November 10 2012 07:59 Adam4167 wrote:
I'm not butt at all, just some advice.

I cant help but feel that it probably lead to hopeless shooting me, which was a terrible shot.


I didn't shoot you, I didn't lynch you, and I had numerous opportunities to do both. If you're not personally capable enough to prove yourself townie against a feint from me, that's not my problem. Maybe you should be talking to the guy who shot you, or examining your own play, since you were the one who absorbed a bullet.

EDIT: For what it's worth, I did find you a bit scummy. You weren't really worth a bullet though, and certainly not a lynch.


Relax a bit would you? The point of post game discussion is to talk about the game and how it unfolded.


Fair enough. Just some advice for you.

On November 10 2012 08:07 BroodKingEXE wrote:
I had the blue role with no role, from what I gleaned from the OP we received our role at the beggining of each day. This would mean I would be unverifiable till D3. Its a pretty tough claim to defend.


So you knew you were a blue, and still didn't claim? You could have claimed your name, at least. Like, why not employ that tool to keep yourself alive?
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Last Edited: 2012-11-09 23:16:29
November 09 2012 23:16 GMT
#1024
On November 10 2012 08:15 Adam4167 wrote:
I do analyze my own play, every game, and i'm the harshest judge.

A majority of the town knew I was town.

Unfortunately the two who seemed to question it were the two confirmed blues, ultimately leading to my death. I cant control what everyone else does, but at least I can try to offer advice so it doesn't happen in the future.


Well, next game I'll make extra sure not to lynch or shoot you (if you are town)
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November 10 2012 01:29 GMT
#1033
I personally had a blast this game but that's just me I guess
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November 10 2012 01:36 GMT
#1038
On November 10 2012 10:31 Keirathi wrote:
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On November 10 2012 10:29 Blazinghand wrote:
I personally had a blast this game but that's just me I guess

You are an anomaly.


I got to shoot like 3 dudes it was awesome
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November 12 2012 08:20 GMT
#1056
I definitely really enjoyed hamming up the N1 and N3 shots this game. Remind me to roll multishot vigi every game
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