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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
November 09 2012 18:49 GMT
#961
On November 10 2012 03:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:43 gonzaw wrote:
It would also have been enough to strike a little doubt in your head (you'd tell yourself "maybe he's right? Nah he's scum.....what if he isn't?) and that'd be enough for me.


Lol have you ever played with me?


hahahaha.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:49 GMT
#962
On November 10 2012 03:48 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:45 strongandbig wrote:
Here's another interesting thing - iGrok put the Wayne Brady PM in the scum QT, but then when we were talking about it he came in and said "I feel obligated to point out that it says "fakeclaims", not "safeclaims"."

>.<

I like screwing with you :p


not sure if you wanna be saying that after this game :p
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
November 09 2012 18:53 GMT
#963
On November 10 2012 03:37 Blazinghand wrote:
Man gonzaw just read your posts this game and your posts in any town game. I don't normally FoS you but I've obsed enough games with you in it to know that you don't play like a spear, you play like a trident. Or a ball of needles. You poke a lot, and at a lot of people. You have to at least *try* to emulate that as scum, or at least recognize that you weren't doing that this game, or your scum play simply won't improve. That's my advice..


I can't really be a "trident" when I'm scum since it might work against our scum agenda. For instance I wouldn't really want to pressure Mem or S&B too hard on D1, which I think I would have if I was town.
I also wouldn't want to give town too much info if I end up dead and flip scum, since it might make it easier for them to figure out my other scumbuddies.


Again....take into account that people thought Stutters and Xfire were scum at points and were kind of suspicious because I never pressured them that much.
Would that have happened if I "pressured" them like you wanted me to do as town? I don't think so.

Maybe trying to balance these things out didn't work that well for me in this game, but I was hoping the "difference" in play was not that big to warrant me getting lynched soon



But yeah I'll say that my town play is kind of hard to emulate for me as scum (at least taking this game and Bureaucracy into account) since i really try to establish myself as town in those games.
...too bad it doesn't seem to work when I'm town and neither when I'm scum, huh
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
November 09 2012 18:56 GMT
#964
On November 10 2012 03:49 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:48 iGrok wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:45 strongandbig wrote:
Here's another interesting thing - iGrok put the Wayne Brady PM in the scum QT, but then when we were talking about it he came in and said "I feel obligated to point out that it says "fakeclaims", not "safeclaims"."

>.<

I like screwing with you :p


not sure if you wanna be saying that after this game :p

I'll say whatever the hell I want. I made a couple mistakes this game and because of that, it was not up to my standards.

I stand by every mod decision and the setup was well balanced. Half the setup didn't even come into play because of various RNGs and Colin, Ryan, and Greg not hitting their point thresholds.

However, this is the second time a game I've run has screwed up because of me. Which really pisses me off. I think I'll take some time off from mafia again.
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:02:17
November 09 2012 18:59 GMT
#965
Carry on.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 09 2012 19:00 GMT
#966
Nevermind. I'm just going to not care anymore. No need to get angry. I apologize.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 09 2012 19:04 GMT
#967
This looked like a fun setup to play. It's hard to balance interesting setups, of course.

Complaining about inconsistent deadlines when you were just a VT and it didn't affect you at all is very unnecessary
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
November 09 2012 19:09 GMT
#968
iGrok, why did you decide to make Colin and Ryan mod-confimed town to each other?

Also again could you tell us what the point threshold was? It wasn't 1700 because BH had vet status and vigged me on N1.

I also wonder....what if people started giving BH and S&B points but BH hit the point threshold while S&B didn't? Wouldn't that out S&B?


Also why make town's powers 1/3 the price of scum powers? Is it just because you assume the other 2 scum will always give their points to the other scum?
Isn't this a bad assumption? The other 2 scum may need spare points to give to other townies for instance to blend in as audience members for instance, and if scum start dying then S&B would not have the same chance to buy stuff as town, even though perhaps at the beginning with 3 scum he may have that chance.


Why not make scum powers just like x2 of town ones? Or why not give them a completely different set of skills with different prices (that depend on scum alone) instead of giving them town's powers?
I mean, S&B would never buy stuff like Track or the DT stuff unless he's forced to or something.

Or at least make town's powers more expensive. Make all powers at least 1000 points, so when they win a game they have to decide which one to get.
Don't let them get vet every single night and any other stuff they want, make them choose "Do I choose vet tonight or mirror/vig shot/DT?".
The vet stuff maybe make it one-shot as well so they can use it once in the game. That way they are not invincible every single night.
Also make the KP WAY MORE expensive please (to town at least). Each performer just needs an extra 200 points to get a KP every single night.
I mean there were four town vig shots in a 13-player game (me, adam, chezinu and S&B the last day). That's insane.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 09 2012 19:10 GMT
#969
Lol sorry for quoting this again, but I really want an answer, iGrok.
On November 10 2012 02:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
iGrok, should I have been modkilled earlier for this quote?
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 12:22 Crossfire99 wrote:
World's worst holiday: Labor Day (idk what to put, idk if the weird ones count like earth day or flag day or...whatever)

Ok, I'm not blue, and I sent some points to strong both nights. Unfortunately I didn't crumb this. I'm not claiming how many points I sent to him yet because he should be able to figure out that I definitely sent him some points last night. I will say that I gave the same amount of points to strong each night. If he hasn't figured it out with this clue I have given him I will explicitly say how many points I gave him each night. I'm hoping that if we're lucky we will catch scum in a lie with all this point claiming.

I just saw Keirathi's post. Don't claim how many points you have left. Don't let scum know anything about what you can or cannot do. I agree with lynching one of the 3 of us: me, stutters, or keirathi, but I'm not sure about the vig plan. I have to think about it. Maybe scum has a vet power that they can activate with points. Interesting thing to note was that mementoss had no points when he died because we each only got 1000 points yesterday. I asked iGrok specifically about this and he said that mementoss had no points to be split amongst us who lynched him. This is what makes me think that scum have powers activated with points as well because I seriously doubt scum would give their points to someone who isn't scum.

World's worst tv show?

Also, for future reference, how should I go about revealing information that I acquired in Mod pm's? Should I ask the question in the thread, so you can answer it? Or is the information I receive never going to be public?

Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 09 2012 19:12 GMT
#970
On November 10 2012 04:04 syllogism wrote:
Complaining about inconsistent deadlines when you were just a VT and it didn't affect you at all is very unnecessary

I guess I can respond to this, since it is the point I was least upset about. It just annoyed me.

When I sign up for a game, I make an effort to be here for all of the deadlines. I change around IRL things if I have to (and can). One day in particular, I had an hour before deadline and a friend called and wanted to hang out. I made an excuse, and told him I would be an hour or so, then I'd ride over. The post ended up being like 45 minutes late. I understand, that's not a big deal and I should have just left, but hosting is a commitment just as much as playing is. If you can't meet that commitment, that's what co-hosts are for.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
November 09 2012 19:13 GMT
#971
Oh yeah also:


lol at that Adam vig shot


Really town had the chance of fucking us in the ass hard and win by a gigantic landslide.
I mean they could have even just used DT abilities on N2 onwards instead of just randomly choosing who to shoot and S&B would have had like 0% chance to win.

Or again not let all points go to S&B on N1, or use other powers that seemed good (like earn double points to get more stuff, or steal points to steal points of who you think is scum, etc).
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 09 2012 19:14 GMT
#972
I quite liked the setup as well. One of the few games I've read lately and kept me interested throughout. I'd like to point out though that host interactions with players sometimes give up their alignment to people reading between the lines so it's something to watch out for in the future. This exchange with chezinu made him 100% confirmed town in my mind:
On November 01 2012 02:23 Chezinu wrote:
I was under the impression that we were going to play who's line is it anyways instead of mafia. Just imagine being an audience member who gets to decide the topic in which ours actors play out.

On November 01 2012 02:29 iGrok wrote:
It is still a mafia game, but with a lot of whose-line twists!

If chezinu was mafia here Igrok would know he was faking not knowing and would have never spontaneously answered his question.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 09 2012 19:14 GMT
#973
In hindsight, I totally should have sent my 1500 points to BH. But man, that "Hopeless is 100% town" stuff, and that he was still pushing Adam just made me not trust him
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:17:38
November 09 2012 19:16 GMT
#974
On November 10 2012 04:14 Keirathi wrote:
In hindsight, I totally should have sent my 1500 points to BH. But man, that "Hopeless is 100% town" stuff, and that he was still pushing Adam just made me not trust him

Lol. He pushed Adam so hard because he wanted to vig gonzaw. It was purely for WIFOM that he did that.

Edit: Do you mean after night 1?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 09 2012 19:17 GMT
#975
That's not particular to this game, btw, many times I've used host interactions to determine other player's alignment and I think it would be more fair if hosts were more careful in the future =)
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 09 2012 19:17 GMT
#976
On November 10 2012 04:16 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 04:14 Keirathi wrote:
In hindsight, I totally should have sent my 1500 points to BH. But man, that "Hopeless is 100% town" stuff, and that he was still pushing Adam just made me not trust him

Lol. He pushed Adam so hard because he wanted to vig gonzaw. It was purely for WIFOM that he did that.

I meant on day 2/night 2, after gonzaw was dead.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 09 2012 19:30 GMT
#977
On November 10 2012 04:09 gonzaw wrote:
iGrok, why did you decide to make Colin and Ryan mod-confimed town to each other?

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There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 09 2012 19:30 GMT
#978
Oh yea, BH, a question for you:

Were you already planning on shooting S&B when stutters flipped town (IE did you think I was town), or did the things I said in the night about ensuring that you were both vetting make up your mind?

When you said:

On November 08 2012 13:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Ok, that gives me enough for both a RB and a Veteran usage. However, what I'd really like to do is also afford a Mirror. S&B I dunno how many points you have but in terms of Veteran usage you really don't need it since any end-game win from Keirathi is based on mislynching you. If you have 500 extra points and could send them my way that would be great.

Hopeless1, you have enough points to shoot Keirathi and Vet yourself, right?


I was starting to have hope that you yelling to kill me was an act and you were suspicious of S&B too, but couldn't think of a way to say that without being obvious.

And when S&B gave Hopeless the 1050 points, I saw the opportunity and took my shot that you both had a vig and that both of us would die. Of course, my assumption was incorrect because Vet carried over until it was actually used, but I was hopeful that I was being desperate enough that you could at least potentially believe me. Which is, I guess, why I got frustrated when you stuck to your guns, although I realize you really had no other choice.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:38:20
November 09 2012 19:36 GMT
#979
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him. Overall I didn't particularly trust his blue claim because Wayne Brady is a musician
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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-09 19:38:47
November 09 2012 19:38 GMT
#980
On November 10 2012 04:36 Blazinghand wrote:
I was planning to shoot S&B probably 5-6 hours before the Stutters flip. He made a post in our Mason QT that basically revealed him to be scum. I ##involved you hoping to gain enough points to shoot and roleblock S&B, but this night used $ instead of points so I had to ask S&B for the points to shoot him with. Everything I said over the course of the night was basically lying to try to get S&B to drop his guard and not vet himself that night.

Sorry, you never really convinced me-- you weren't particularly scummy, but you were the "unconfirmed town". S&B was playing a little bit scummily though, and basically he made a mistake in the QT. If it weren't for that, I may not have shot him. Overall I didn't particularly trust his blue claim because Wayne Brady is a musician

Was my case on S&B not convincing enough?
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