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Release
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thrawn2112
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i think people are playing irc mafia later tonight btw | ||
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DarthPunk
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Thanks prom for stopping any last minute shenanigans. I'm going to dive through some filters and post before the day post my last will and testament. We got this though. So I am not worried now. We got more time to play with with this lynch and reduced the KP by 1/2. <3 | ||
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On November 12 2012 09:36 Release wrote: If I'm scum, ask DP to JK me. If there is a kill, I am not scum. If there is no kill, we have another day to hash things out. (Yes, the scum might withhold a KP.) This is so fucking retarded. I don't know what to say. You are starting to sound like risk all of a sudden. I will jail how I please thank you very much. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On November 12 2012 05:13 thrawn2112 wrote: I also think dp is town, just from reading his filter without considering a fake claim. He may not like this reasoning, but my impression of town dp is a stubborn angry guy who likes his cases and likes yelling at people who disagree. And lol, that's what I've seen this game. What I saw from scum dp in LC was a toned down version of dp who was not that stubborn. + Show Spoiler + sorry dp <3 I think you got it pretty right. I don't take offence. I can also see that you would think I am angry after being so hard on you in the obs qt's of your newbies. ^_^ I am pretty damn aggressive in mafia. But I am a nice guy IRL I promise. | ||
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On November 12 2012 05:14 kushm4sta wrote: yeah if you read his filter with an Australian accent in your mind it seems way more town. I think this is the key to reading dp. LOL. I read all of you guys in an Australian accent. After I read this I tried doing it with an american accent. But I couldn't get the accent right. It ended up sounding really cheesy in my head.  | ||
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thrawn2112
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DarthPunk
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On November 12 2012 09:30 mkfuba07 wrote: I changed my mind. For some reason I didn't consider risk being sk. Since he was sk, it means kush isn't sk. And since kush isn't sk, I can completely throw out my case on you two. Was admittedly bad play to begin with. Kush is guaranteed town, since him being scum relies on thrawn lying, which would mean 2 scum. DP has his claim, and has played incredibly townish all game. If he's scum, he deserves to win XD Prome can't be scum because there was a kill last night and he was jailed. I can't be scum because I know my role and I am not scum  Thrawn could theoretically be scum, but my theory was based majorly around his interactions with sk kush. Again, admittedly bad play that I always said I'd never do (unflipped association theories), but almost everything seemed to fit so well, and I got carried away with it. I don't think I could point out a post in his filter that I find to be overtly scummy. Aaaaand Release. Release is the only one left. Boom! Theoretical if Release isn't scum 5-1 lynch Release (4-1) If release isn't scum, scum kills someone (3-1) After that we lynch thrawn because I'm town. In thrawn's case, we lynch me because he says he's town. Not sure what everyone else might be thinking. Either way, lynching Release feels like the best bet. Does anyone think that thrawn is scummier than Release? Let me know if I missed anything. I think it's pretty solid. Yeah. I have a problem with this post. You acknowledge that both you and thrawn may be fakeclaiming, But use my claim to somehow exonerate me?!?!? Fair enough if you have a town read on me but don't use my claim to view me as town use my filter and your brain. Seems weird you would just leave me out of the three of us who have claimed. | ||
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On November 12 2012 10:21 thrawn2112 wrote: dp, it all goes back to my first game where i rolled vig and didn't realize the importance of breadrumbing You know I didn't want to lynch you at the end though right? I ended up voting for Your Harry over you I believe. But yeah. It was my second game also and I was connection crazy and your vig claim threw me off super hard.. Ever since that game I have been super wary of lynching blues. So I guess I learnt something. | ||
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mkfuba07
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I find your claim more reliable than either of ours. And I find both your's and mine more reliable than thrawn's. While I'm clearly biased by my own knowledge, I feel that anyone claiming to have jailed prome was unlikely to be lying about it. If the sk decided to kill prome, then any scum rb claiming to have jailed him would be outed instantly as a liar. It's a risk (heh) that as scum I don't think I would take, and I don't think you would either. There's also the fact that it would make more sense to breadcrumb roleblocker rather than jailer. You don't gain anything by lying about which fake role you have, so why not just give yourself the real role? Thrawn's crumb was good, and that I've never denied. The only reason I feel like I'm still questioning it is because I think it's an easy claim for scum to make. They crumb 1-shot cop, call someone town, then get a free ride to endgame. At this point I don't think he's scummy, but if it comes down to him vs me, I know who it is. | ||
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On November 12 2012 10:53 mkfuba07 wrote: It's not just your claim, it's how townie you've been all game. I said that... I find your claim more reliable than either of ours. And I find both your's and mine more reliable than thrawn's. While I'm clearly biased by my own knowledge, I feel that anyone claiming to have jailed prome was unlikely to be lying about it. If the sk decided to kill prome, then any scum rb claiming to have jailed him would be outed instantly as a liar. It's a risk (heh) that as scum I don't think I would take, and I don't think you would either. There's also the fact that it would make more sense to breadcrumb roleblocker rather than jailer. You don't gain anything by lying about which fake role you have, so why not just give yourself the real role? Thrawn's crumb was good, and that I've never denied. The only reason I feel like I'm still questioning it is because I think it's an easy claim for scum to make. They crumb 1-shot cop, call someone town, then get a free ride to endgame. At this point I don't think he's scummy, but if it comes down to him vs me, I know who it is. The thing about trying to paint my claim as fake is how fucking retarded it would be. I would have bussed both my scum buddies immediately. Then claimed a role that would have damned me if my jail was killed by a sk. It would have been incredibly risky and stupid. Scum would have claimed VT or maybe a one shot role. This is sort of speculation and I have been trying to avoid it. But honestly I would have to be an idiot to claim JK as scum. I really don't think someone needs to be fake claiming. Release/kush were my SK reads. Kush is town 100% now that Risk flipped. so. I am taking a close look at release whom I thought was scum day one and has done little to make himself townie IMO. Release is far scummier than anyone else in the game. That is why he should be looked at. | ||
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thrawn2112
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release fuba hmm... darthpunk, why did you jail prom instead of acro n3? | ||
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DarthPunk
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On November 12 2012 15:11 thrawn2112 wrote: acro roleblocked risk, so acro's death came from mafia kp. prom was roleblocked, so he's not mafia. there is no way in all of fuck that I'm going to vote for prom. I really think darthpunk is town but I'll reevaluate that read between now and the deadline. kush can only be mafia if there are 2 godfathers and a goon in a setup with a million blue roleblockers. that leaves me with... release fuba hmm... darthpunk, why did you jail prom instead of acro n3? He was my strongest town read. And when he was jailed night 2 KP was stopped. I rb'd Kush that night. After the draz flip he was 99% town. The 3 options that I had for the no kill night 2 were Kush had KP and was roleblocked Release had KP or was roleblocked Prom was targeted by NK but was jailed. So after kush is pretty much town I was certain that Prom was targeted for a kill that night and that release was the SK. I did not think that scum would expect another jailer at that point so I thought I would protect the person whom was likely targeted the previous night. As I thought they would want to finish the job. That is the basic reasoning behind it. | ||
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DarthPunk
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Mkfuba is confirmed town. And one of release/thrawn HAS to be the final scum. Release is looking a thousand times worse than thrawn. Release is the final scum. | ||
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Release
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On November 08 2012 13:26 mkfuba07 wrote: I'm back. My vote was up in the air in the beginning, because I was pondering over possibly voting kush. I'll stick with draz for now, since now that I've got confirmation bias out of my system, I can't confirm my theory until one of them flips. ##Vote drazak @Release: I think it's likely that someone with a kp who was roleblocked would be more inclined to report it, because then there's a roleblocker out there who knows you haven't told the truth. But on that note, the fact that you appear to have not thought of that makes me think you're town. Edit: saw I was ninja'd. Wanted to comment anyway. On November 08 2012 16:02 mkfuba07 wrote: I considered it, but I feel that scum wouldn't even consider saying what he did. As scum, I feel it would be my first reaction: "Can I just not claim? No, I have to claim, or someone will know I'm lying." As such, I would never consider it proof of innocence. I feel that he's wrong, and scum would never think to fake being wrong in that way. Does that make sense? Fuba was the only one to support the case for my comment + Show Spoiler + On November 08 2012 13:10 Release wrote: On a day on which no one dies, occam's razor says that those who have kill roles will not claim to be RBed. It would lead to that line of reasoning ,"no one dead, this guy RBed, this guy has killing role" I don't see anything that my post actually shows except for my inability to play mafia well. It is not townie and i don't see why fuba should defend me like that. @darthpunk What if Fuba is just the scum RB who claimed one-shot and isn't going to use his RB powers anymore? | ||
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thrawn2112
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Release
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He's not particularly in my interest as i have been looking through fuba's filter, but i'll try to make a statement about hrawn soon | ||
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DarthPunk
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On November 12 2012 15:52 Release wrote: Fuba was the only one to support the case for my comment + Show Spoiler + On November 08 2012 13:10 Release wrote: On a day on which no one dies, occam's razor says that those who have kill roles will not claim to be RBed. It would lead to that line of reasoning ,"no one dead, this guy RBed, this guy has killing role" I don't see anything that my post actually shows except for my inability to play mafia well. It is not townie and i don't see why fuba should defend me like that. @darthpunk What if Fuba is just the scum RB who claimed one-shot and isn't going to use his RB powers anymore? It is possible. But If you are town and FUBA is scum can you explain how the night actions on night 2 work out? And why there were no kills? | ||
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Release
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On November 02 2012 13:41 thrawn2112 wrote: none of that has any relevance to fake claiming mason So if you're saying that you did this to get information and reads, you do realize that if you're actually town, then you're the only person atm who can make those reads? If you did this as town, you've put yourself in a position where it's almost impossible to avoid getting lynched.... how does that help us makes reads based on people's reactions towards you until after we've seen your flip? I accept that townies can intentionally look scummy to make reads.... but the manner in which you supposedly did it and your explanations for what it would actually accomplish just don't make any sense. I want to see two things from you: 1) a clear a concise explanation of what exactly you were trying to accomplish by claiming mason 2) some reads Such posts as these actually gets things done. points for you ____________________________________________________ Asking for others' opinions On November 01 2012 10:50 thrawn2112 wrote: kush you think release is scum or town? On November 01 2012 23:35 thrawn2112 wrote: risk, say something about release On November 09 2012 07:50 thrawn2112 wrote: anyone else here that wants to lynch release? kush you can always change your vote if it doesn't work out On November 03 2012 04:46 thrawn2112 wrote: @prom I'd like to hear you talk some more about muso. You said that you didn't want him lynched today but that he was a good vig shot... what are your actual opinions about him being town/scum? On November 05 2012 05:30 thrawn2112 wrote: Release, why do you think prom is the sk? Give your specific reasons. There's a lot more of this. On the one hand it makes things clearer (but most posts do). However, what i read from this is someone who doesn't have too good a feel of how town feels at a given moment in time and is scummy. points away from you. In general (at least until page 5 of your filter) you've been very strong at logic and whatnot so I feel that if you were town, you wouldn't ask as many general questions. __________________________________________________ My guilt: On November 07 2012 14:24 thrawn2112 wrote: Do you actually want to change your vote? That's a perfect example of a post that makes me think you feel guilty. and some other posts i don't want to find right now: Yes it should make you feel that i feel guilty. What I said is that my posts made me look guilty. I however, did not feel guilty. I felt annoyed. I don't think it's too scummy not to care whether a scum or sk dies. I honestly feel like this is another one of my "i am not good at mafia posts" and you seem to take a much less strong stance than fuba did my post. points for you. __________________________________________________ some defense On November 09 2012 07:41 thrawn2112 wrote: his inherent guilt all game his story in d3 doesn't add up - has 3 people that aren't drazak as top scumreads during N2 - because drazak doesn't show up for N2 deadline, releases makes drazak his top scumread - votes for kush even though draz was his top read after I questioned a weird FOS he made against kush wtf was that vigi claim. I NEED to see an explanation for why he did it. As everyone else demonstrated, it is not a "fake" crumb, it was done intentionally. but it was so well hidden, what town purpose could it server? me thinks it's a scum hiding fake claims didn't vote for hopeless innocent wabbit is a scum name - lol hopeless - this post - other than that no mention of release ever again in hopeless filter - he was roleblocked and we have missing night kills Why would i bring up the vigi claim in the first place? other parts have been answered. _______________________________________________ You seemed pretty focussed on a Risk/Kush/Me scum and SK. But i think this is pretty null in terms of alignment. SO overall, i feel that I can forgive your eliciting opinions from the town to gain a townie perspective (it is something townies want too, just something scum want more) and you are probably not the last scum. (definitely less likely than Fuba) | ||
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