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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
November 09 2012 23:55 GMT
#1561
Or one of Mufa and DP is the scum roleblocker.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
November 09 2012 23:56 GMT
#1562
On November 10 2012 08:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
acro: I'm not putting much faith in the setup speculation, for all we know bugs may be using something completely different

Then he has changed to something completely different all of a sudden without bothering to mention it: see the links to previous bugs setups.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 09 2012 23:57 GMT
#1563
or you. that was what I was saying earlier it just required a matched set of roleblockers and roleblockees for it to make sense.

are we really believing there are a million town roleblockers? town roleblocker is so easy to claim if you're a red roleblocker.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
November 09 2012 23:57 GMT
#1564
N1 I could see Zealos or Matt getting RB'd by scum.
N2 I could see scum RBing Release or Kush.

So an overlap of roleblocks is possible too.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 09 2012 23:58 GMT
#1565
On November 10 2012 08:53 Acrofales wrote:
Ok. That throws all my logic overboard. There is funky shit going on.

2 full JKs and a 1-shot is:
JJJJ

Full RB and a 1-shot is:
RR

Full cop is:
C

That makes 0T, which gives:
Goon, RB, Godfather.

However, there is now a RB missing for this to work. There is also a surplus of KP.

WTF. This is weird.


Yes. I already looked all this up of course. Which is why I was more suspicious of kush and a framer than you were. Certainly there have been edits to the setup by WBG. There should not have been a one shot cop. For instance. Nor a SK.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
November 09 2012 23:58 GMT
#1566
Wait. N1 it would have to be Matt, because I can't imagine Matt using his 1-shot RB on me. Zealos could've thrown me in jail, though.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 00:00 GMT
#1567
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
November 10 2012 00:01 GMT
#1568
All kindsa stuff is not making sense in my mind atm.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 10 2012 00:01 GMT
#1569
Okay so the reason I wanted to out all the blue roles is this: although Acro is playing a very town game I have a few issues trusting him. I wanted scum to know that there were no medics left (my own read, guess I was wrong. Thanks DP) and that Acro was blue (also my own read, since confirmed). I assumed that if I died and he lived through the night he was scum because he is a much better NK target than I am. I even lowered my posting to make myself look less active and less good. My hope is that Acro will be shot tonight confirming him as town and letting me stop second guessing everything he has been saying. On that subject though, if he lives I am much more concerned as there is no good reason for scum to believe that there was still a townie medic role (at least I doubted it, I assume that scum did too). Acro has clearly been our best scum hunter and greatest asset and the only reason to let him live is if he is scum or a bullet proof SK.

If Acro is not scum I would look at Risk. His play has been less and less matching with his town meta as we go. Thrawn is also very worrying, he picked up on my pressure for Acro's breadcrumb but ignored the exact same post where I asked for his, Acro at least answered while Thrawn ignored me on purpose.

I'm pretty sure that DP is not scum. His claim and his play work well together, they make sense from a townie stance and I have been thinking about what he said about defending me early on, he wouldn't have done that as scum because he has seen me turn on people defending me, I don't trust 'em.

Kush and Release: one of these is probably SK but I'm having trouble reading either of them. As Acro said either Crazy town or Crazy not town. I would guess that if Kush was SK he would take investigation immune suspecting that someone would check him. Think about it. Just as I'm sure that a SK Acro would take bullet proof Kush would have to take Check Immune. Nothing else makes sense for the players.

I doubt there is another unclaimed RBer. If scum have an RB he has already claimed his power. Look at Acro or DP because it has to be re-usable. I think scum need an RB thoguh with these power roles...

Those are my thoughts for the moment. I'll be heading to work soon so I'll see you all after the night post.

Peace!
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 10 2012 00:02 GMT
#1570
On November 10 2012 08:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
or you. that was what I was saying earlier it just required a matched set of roleblockers and roleblockees for it to make sense.

are we really believing there are a million town roleblockers? town roleblocker is so easy to claim if you're a red roleblocker.


It does seem unbelievable. obviously not impossible though.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 00:08 GMT
#1571
@ prom I didn't breadcrumb a target. I woke up hungover (halloween/birthday weekend) and put as much effort into a 1 shot-cop breadcrumb as I could stand and didn't bother with the target. acro's complete lack of a breaddcrumb after seeing the effort he went to to make the mason breadcrumb is worrying. it's hard for me to accept that a guy who would encrypt a fakeclaim wouldn't bc his role or action during N1
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
November 10 2012 00:14 GMT
#1572
That's the problem I have. I cannot see this game being even remotely balanced without a scum roleblocker.

But DP's story seems to check out, although he could be scum riding on the wave of claimers: the medic part of the jailkeeper cannot be verified due to the way this game works and the RB is equally likely to have prevented a hit. So DP could be scum on an awesome bus of Drazak and then claiming town RB instead of scum RB.

I think all setup speculation is pretty much out the window right now. That leaves behaviour; and risk is still the scummiest.

Also, with DP claiming he RB'd Prom and Prom claiming RB'd, Prom cannot be SK (if SP was lying about being a roleblocker, then Kush wouldn't have been RB'd).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
November 10 2012 00:17 GMT
#1573
On November 10 2012 09:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
@ prom I didn't breadcrumb a target. I woke up hungover (halloween/birthday weekend) and put as much effort into a 1 shot-cop breadcrumb as I could stand and didn't bother with the target. acro's complete lack of a breaddcrumb after seeing the effort he went to to make the mason breadcrumb is worrying. it's hard for me to accept that a guy who would encrypt a fakeclaim wouldn't bc his role or action during N1

The point of a mason breadcrumb is so that the partner can claim after death and become pretty much modconfirmed town (that's why I hammered on hiding it well). THAT is why I was hammering on breadcrumbs.

Other roles scum can plant breadcrumbs easily. Hell. I've done it.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
November 10 2012 00:18 GMT
#1574
On November 10 2012 09:14 Acrofales wrote:
That's the problem I have. I cannot see this game being even remotely balanced without a scum roleblocker.

But DP's story seems to check out, although he could be scum riding on the wave of claimers: the medic part of the jailkeeper cannot be verified due to the way this game works and the RB is equally likely to have prevented a hit. So DP could be scum on an awesome bus of Drazak and then claiming town RB instead of scum RB.

I think all setup speculation is pretty much out the window right now. That leaves behaviour; and risk is still the scummiest.

Also, with DP claiming he RB'd Prom and Prom claiming RB'd, Prom cannot be SK (if SP was lying about being a roleblocker, then Kush wouldn't have been RB'd).

Oh, forgot to finish that last sentence: because there were 2 hits, that means that whoever carried a KP was not Prom, because he was definitely RB'd.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 10 2012 00:19 GMT
#1575
On November 10 2012 09:14 Acrofales wrote:
That's the problem I have. I cannot see this game being even remotely balanced without a scum roleblocker.

But DP's story seems to check out, although he could be scum riding on the wave of claimers: the medic part of the jailkeeper cannot be verified due to the way this game works and the RB is equally likely to have prevented a hit. So DP could be scum on an awesome bus of Drazak and then claiming town RB instead of scum RB.

I think all setup speculation is pretty much out the window right now. That leaves behaviour; and risk is still the scummiest.

Also, with DP claiming he RB'd Prom and Prom claiming RB'd, Prom cannot be SK (if SP was lying about being a roleblocker, then Kush wouldn't have been RB'd).


I did try telling you all without claiming.
There are too many blues in this game, You do not have all the information. etc Now I will die tomorrow night. So thanks I guess.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
November 10 2012 00:21 GMT
#1576
On November 10 2012 09:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 09:14 Acrofales wrote:
That's the problem I have. I cannot see this game being even remotely balanced without a scum roleblocker.

But DP's story seems to check out, although he could be scum riding on the wave of claimers: the medic part of the jailkeeper cannot be verified due to the way this game works and the RB is equally likely to have prevented a hit. So DP could be scum on an awesome bus of Drazak and then claiming town RB instead of scum RB.

I think all setup speculation is pretty much out the window right now. That leaves behaviour; and risk is still the scummiest.

Also, with DP claiming he RB'd Prom and Prom claiming RB'd, Prom cannot be SK (if SP was lying about being a roleblocker, then Kush wouldn't have been RB'd).


I did try telling you all without claiming.
There are too many blues in this game, You do not have all the information. etc Now I will die tomorrow night. So thanks I guess.

Hey, don't blame me. I was against that shit. I just joined because people were making it impossible to play without claiming. People be derps, yo.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 00:21 GMT
#1577
posting before the day post feels so naughty

i think i'm gonna wait and see what happens before talking any more about setup
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 10 2012 00:22 GMT
#1578
On November 10 2012 09:21 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 09:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 10 2012 09:14 Acrofales wrote:
That's the problem I have. I cannot see this game being even remotely balanced without a scum roleblocker.

But DP's story seems to check out, although he could be scum riding on the wave of claimers: the medic part of the jailkeeper cannot be verified due to the way this game works and the RB is equally likely to have prevented a hit. So DP could be scum on an awesome bus of Drazak and then claiming town RB instead of scum RB.

I think all setup speculation is pretty much out the window right now. That leaves behaviour; and risk is still the scummiest.

Also, with DP claiming he RB'd Prom and Prom claiming RB'd, Prom cannot be SK (if SP was lying about being a roleblocker, then Kush wouldn't have been RB'd).


I did try telling you all without claiming.
There are too many blues in this game, You do not have all the information. etc Now I will die tomorrow night. So thanks I guess.

Hey, don't blame me. I was against that shit. I just joined because people were making it impossible to play without claiming. People be derps, yo.


I am quite furious actually.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 10 2012 00:23 GMT
#1579
Not even derping. I had a plan and I knew that I would get the support of at least half the players in the game. Now, it'll be a little while before we see if I'm right about it but I think I am, anyways I stand by what I did and I think it will benefit town.

I wish I could stay for the night post but I can't. This is it for me tonight back in ~11 hours. Good luck.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
November 10 2012 00:25 GMT
#1580
Prom + DP is possible as a scumteam, but only if they actually RB'd their kill that night and Prom was on the fucking ball fakeclaiming RB'd (or he was in fact roleblocked and it was just a lucky coincidence).

If this is what happened, it was a fucking superb plan.
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