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On November 08 2012 09:48 Acrofales wrote:Finally, we're back to something resembling scumhunting. Yo, DP. I'm fairly certain I had some questions for you. Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 22:28 Acrofales wrote:On November 07 2012 11:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Sup guys. I need to catch up on the lengthier night posts still. I am voting drazak today because I am 99% sure he is scum based on the play that has been analysed by several of us here.
There are too many blues in this game also. So I feel as if this game does not conform to C9++ as much as we thought. Matt and Zealos were roleblocker and Jailer. Mkfuba claimed Jailer. Thrawn cop. plus another 1-2 jailer/roleblocker.
all in all 5 roleblocking roles in the game so far.
My top scum reads are drazak for claiming scum in the thread. And Kush if he isn't the SK.
I think one of release/ kush are the serial killer.
ok. I have an exam this evening so I need to study but I will be checking the thread in my breaks.
##Vote: Drazak You caught up yet? What are your thoughts on Thrawn and Fuba. What do you make of Release's behaviour?
Both have blue claims. That is the thing that has stopped me being suspicious of them. But there are too many blues in this game so to be honest I could see either being scum. I know you have some huge town read on thrawn but I just don't see it.
He has not been as active this game as the newbie games of his of which I obs'd That would be partially explained by his blue role early. But if it was one shot then why would you continue to fly under the radar as town?
Mkfuba has a claim also. Which makes him less desirable a target. Has prom confirmed his roleblock? if that is the case I see no reason not to believe him.
I think I am caught up. But I may have missed some things. Really I should read the thread again but to be honest after studying for my exam yesterday reading is the last thing I want to do.
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Release is almost certainly scum or SK IMO. There are 3 reasons that there were no nightkills last night. Kush got roleblocked and has kp and/or Release was roleblocked and has KP and/or prom was jailed and was targeted.
So after the drazak lynch I want to lynch kush and release.
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On November 08 2012 10:01 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 09:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Release is almost certainly scum or SK IMO. There are 3 reasons that there were no nightkills last night. Kush got roleblocked and has kp and/or Release was roleblocked and has KP and/or prom was jailed and was targeted.
So after the drazak lynch I want to lynch kush and release. So why were there two shots n1? Are you the vig? If yes claim.
I am not a vig. I think there is a serial killer. And that both scum and sk were blocked by roleblocks last night. That is why I want to lynch both release and kush. Because they have a 66% chance of being scum/ 3rd party.
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On November 08 2012 10:01 Release wrote:
about the 3 claims: acro, risk and ... (i only skimmed the thread to catch up. DIdn't catch the last one)
Honestly, all game, i thought Risk was the silent half of a Mason Pair, but i didn't think he was non-town because of the abundance of other non-town -looking people.
Acro a RB?
I don't know what to make of it. The story works out but that's not too hard to create.
He might be a scum RB and but this could probably be proved false by asking him to RB someone other than Draz or Kush (or me...)
Ehh. I believe it. No one else has claimed to RB me.
Have we accounted for all the RBs today?
No. Not all the role blocks are accounted for. We are missing a roleblock on prom night one and a roleblock on Kush.
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On November 08 2012 10:04 Release wrote:
kush first? flavor theory been shitting up the thread all game.
Obviously kush first.
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On November 08 2012 10:05 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 10:01 Release wrote:
about the 3 claims: acro, risk and ... (i only skimmed the thread to catch up. DIdn't catch the last one)
Honestly, all game, i thought Risk was the silent half of a Mason Pair, but i didn't think he was non-town because of the abundance of other non-town -looking people.
Acro a RB?
I don't know what to make of it. The story works out but that's not too hard to create.
He might be a scum RB and but this could probably be proved false by asking him to RB someone other than Draz or Kush (or me...)
Ehh. I believe it. No one else has claimed to RB me.
Have we accounted for all the RBs today? I also claimed VT. If Fuba blocked me and Acro blocked you (and botha re what they claim) then scum blocked Kush.
Assuming scum have a roleblocker. Which I am not convinced of.
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On November 08 2012 10:09 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 10:06 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 10:05 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 10:01 Release wrote:
about the 3 claims: acro, risk and ... (i only skimmed the thread to catch up. DIdn't catch the last one)
Honestly, all game, i thought Risk was the silent half of a Mason Pair, but i didn't think he was non-town because of the abundance of other non-town -looking people.
Acro a RB?
I don't know what to make of it. The story works out but that's not too hard to create.
He might be a scum RB and but this could probably be proved false by asking him to RB someone other than Draz or Kush (or me...)
Ehh. I believe it. No one else has claimed to RB me.
Have we accounted for all the RBs today? I also claimed VT. If Fuba blocked me and Acro blocked you (and botha re what they claim) then scum blocked Kush. Assuming scum have a roleblocker. Which I am not convinced of. Either claim roleblocker or stop doubting that scum have one. VT: Draz Risk Me Kush Release 1shot cop thrawn 1shot jk fuba RB Acro Not Claimed: DP If you are vig or RB I would like you to claim either now or after night actions have resolved on next night. Fro both release
Fine. I will claim after night actions have resolved. This mass claim should not have happened today. Frankly I am quite pissed off we didn't do it in the last hour of the night to be honest.
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On November 08 2012 10:16 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 10:14 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 10:09 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 10:06 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 10:05 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 10:01 Release wrote:
about the 3 claims: acro, risk and ... (i only skimmed the thread to catch up. DIdn't catch the last one)
Honestly, all game, i thought Risk was the silent half of a Mason Pair, but i didn't think he was non-town because of the abundance of other non-town -looking people.
Acro a RB?
I don't know what to make of it. The story works out but that's not too hard to create.
He might be a scum RB and but this could probably be proved false by asking him to RB someone other than Draz or Kush (or me...)
Ehh. I believe it. No one else has claimed to RB me.
Have we accounted for all the RBs today? I also claimed VT. If Fuba blocked me and Acro blocked you (and botha re what they claim) then scum blocked Kush. Assuming scum have a roleblocker. Which I am not convinced of. Either claim roleblocker or stop doubting that scum have one. VT: Draz Risk Me Kush Release 1shot cop thrawn 1shot jk fuba RB Acro Not Claimed: DP If you are vig or RB I would like you to claim either now or after night actions have resolved on next night. Fro both release Fine. I will claim after night actions have resolved. This mass claim should not have happened today. Frankly I am quite pissed off we didn't do it in the last hour of the night to be honest. I had my reasons. I'll explain post game as explaining them now defeats the purpose of this. I think it is a pretty good strategy. Thank you for accepting this. So you think the last two scum and the SK are all in Kush/draz/Release?
I am positive that Draz is scum. As does anyone with a brain. I was almost sure he was from day one after he altered his reads on people depending on their reads on him. Then he claimed scum with his shenanigans which make no sense from any standpoint other than newbie scum panicked that the vote on his scum buddy that had been there all day was helping getting his buddy lynched.
2 KP were blocked with 3 roleblocks. Kush and release both have a 66% chance of being scum/serial killer. I want to lynch kush first because he is scummy as shit so scummy in fact that I think he was framed or is investigation immune and has revealed his scumminess increasingly after he was in his words 'confirmed town' with his green check.
Release just happens to be in with kush and while I don't think he is as scummy as kush I certainly don't think he was town.
What I will say is that if release is scum then fuck you all cause i read 2/3 scum on day one.
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On November 08 2012 10:26 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 09:48 Release wrote:On November 08 2012 09:47 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 08 2012 09:45 Release wrote:
kush is definitely not town. I don't see his helping by flooding the thread with flavor.
Drazak can be dealt with. There is a strong support for his lynch and if my vote is needed, sure, but I believe Kush is not town as strongly i believe that Drazak is scum If you beleive both of those with the same intensity, it doesn't make sense why you wouldn't just vote for drazak. You'd rather hit someone who could either be sk/mafia instead of someone you think could only be mafia? he (kush) is the one derailing the thread more and preventing us from finding the last scum. Are you kidding me? I'm preventing people from finding the last scum by derailing the thread?? That is just not how it's going down. In fact I have been rarely talking about flavor without someone asking me about it.
What a joke. This is so untrue.
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On November 08 2012 10:27 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 10:22 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 10:16 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 10:14 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 10:09 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 10:06 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 10:05 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 10:01 Release wrote:
about the 3 claims: acro, risk and ... (i only skimmed the thread to catch up. DIdn't catch the last one)
Honestly, all game, i thought Risk was the silent half of a Mason Pair, but i didn't think he was non-town because of the abundance of other non-town -looking people.
Acro a RB?
I don't know what to make of it. The story works out but that's not too hard to create.
He might be a scum RB and but this could probably be proved false by asking him to RB someone other than Draz or Kush (or me...)
Ehh. I believe it. No one else has claimed to RB me.
Have we accounted for all the RBs today? I also claimed VT. If Fuba blocked me and Acro blocked you (and botha re what they claim) then scum blocked Kush. Assuming scum have a roleblocker. Which I am not convinced of. Either claim roleblocker or stop doubting that scum have one. VT: Draz Risk Me Kush Release 1shot cop thrawn 1shot jk fuba RB Acro Not Claimed: DP If you are vig or RB I would like you to claim either now or after night actions have resolved on next night. Fro both release Fine. I will claim after night actions have resolved. This mass claim should not have happened today. Frankly I am quite pissed off we didn't do it in the last hour of the night to be honest. I had my reasons. I'll explain post game as explaining them now defeats the purpose of this. I think it is a pretty good strategy. Thank you for accepting this. So you think the last two scum and the SK are all in Kush/draz/Release? I am positive that Draz is scum. As does anyone with a brain. I was almost sure he was from day one after he altered his reads on people depending on their reads on him. Then he claimed scum with his shenanigans which make no sense from any standpoint other than newbie scum panicked that the vote on his scum buddy that had been there all day was helping getting his buddy lynched. 2 KP were blocked with 3 roleblocks. Kush and release both have a 66% chance of being scum/serial killer. I want to lynch kush first because he is scummy as shit so scummy in fact that I think he was framed or is investigation immune and has revealed his scumminess increasingly after he was in his words 'confirmed town' with his green check. Release just happens to be in with kush and while I don't think he is as scummy as kush I certainly don't think he was town. What I will say is that if release is scum then fuck you all cause i read 2/3 scum on day one. So, just to be clear, there is no chance in your mind that the RB on me prevented a kill (that is that I am scum or SK)? If both are scum and you are town I'll put you in my signature as my favourite sith lord.
No. Of course it is just as likely that a shot on you stopped 1 kp. there are 3 options and 2 kp
= 66% chance of kush/release having KP stopped. That is why I said 66% if you were not jailed it would be a certainty that both have KP.
Wow. I hope I am right. Keirathi has a sig of Shiao Pi mocking me. It would be nice to have some revenge. lol.
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On November 08 2012 10:28 kushm4sta wrote:
dp is scum.
risk is scum.
release is sk.
watch as drazak flips green then DP says OMG kush knew all along he must be scum.
Watch as drazak flips red and kush still calls me scum.
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On November 08 2012 10:33 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 10:27 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 10:22 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 10:16 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 10:14 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 10:09 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 10:06 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 10:05 Promethelax wrote:On November 08 2012 10:01 Release wrote:
about the 3 claims: acro, risk and ... (i only skimmed the thread to catch up. DIdn't catch the last one)
Honestly, all game, i thought Risk was the silent half of a Mason Pair, but i didn't think he was non-town because of the abundance of other non-town -looking people.
Acro a RB?
I don't know what to make of it. The story works out but that's not too hard to create.
He might be a scum RB and but this could probably be proved false by asking him to RB someone other than Draz or Kush (or me...)
Ehh. I believe it. No one else has claimed to RB me.
Have we accounted for all the RBs today? I also claimed VT. If Fuba blocked me and Acro blocked you (and botha re what they claim) then scum blocked Kush. Assuming scum have a roleblocker. Which I am not convinced of. Either claim roleblocker or stop doubting that scum have one. VT: Draz Risk Me Kush Release 1shot cop thrawn 1shot jk fuba RB Acro Not Claimed: DP If you are vig or RB I would like you to claim either now or after night actions have resolved on next night. Fro both release Fine. I will claim after night actions have resolved. This mass claim should not have happened today. Frankly I am quite pissed off we didn't do it in the last hour of the night to be honest. I had my reasons. I'll explain post game as explaining them now defeats the purpose of this. I think it is a pretty good strategy. Thank you for accepting this. So you think the last two scum and the SK are all in Kush/draz/Release? I am positive that Draz is scum. As does anyone with a brain. I was almost sure he was from day one after he altered his reads on people depending on their reads on him. Then he claimed scum with his shenanigans which make no sense from any standpoint other than newbie scum panicked that the vote on his scum buddy that had been there all day was helping getting his buddy lynched. 2 KP were blocked with 3 roleblocks. Kush and release both have a 66% chance of being scum/serial killer. I want to lynch kush first because he is scummy as shit so scummy in fact that I think he was framed or is investigation immune and has revealed his scumminess increasingly after he was in his words 'confirmed town' with his green check. Release just happens to be in with kush and while I don't think he is as scummy as kush I certainly don't think he was town. What I will say is that if release is scum then fuck you all cause i read 2/3 scum on day one. So, just to be clear, there is no chance in your mind that the RB on me prevented a kill (that is that I am scum or SK)? If both are scum and you are town I'll put you in my signature as my favourite sith lord. No. Of course it is just as likely that a shot on you stopped 1 kp. there are 3 options and 2 kp = 66% chance of kush/release having KP stopped. That is why I said 66% if you were not jailed it would be a certainty that both have KP. Wow. I hope I am right. Keirathi has a sig of Shiao Pi mocking me. It would be nice to have some revenge. lol. That the RB on me prevented a shot though, not the medic aspect of jailor. So at least one shot must (in your mind) have come from either release or kush.
If you are not town then I will do something drastic. No I am not considering that you have KP. I think that should be obvious. You have been my strongest town read since night one.
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On November 08 2012 10:51 Acrofales wrote:
Why is everybody forgetting the fourth possibility in my list. Do you guys know something I don't?
scum shot sk. sk shot prom. rbs were inconsequential.
Hmm. Must of missed that. I guess this is a possibility also.
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On November 08 2012 10:53 Acrofales wrote:
Not saying that's what happened, just everybody is running wild instead of going back to basics. The mechanics are so inconclusive at the moment. All we know is that drazak claimed scum and we should kill him for it.
Yeha I agree. We should have killed drazak before all this claiming nonsense.
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On November 08 2012 11:11 Acrofales wrote:
Did some thinking about kush claiming rb'd. I think scum rb'd him, thinking he is the SK.
That's making me think he's town.
I disagree.
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So drazak has been conspicuously absent. Seems like he has given up and doesn't want to give anything away. I am concerned that we don't have all votes on drazak yet.
Seriously vote drazak. He is 100% scum. if he flips green I will eat my trousers.
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On November 08 2012 20:43 kushm4sta wrote:
i guess
nice bus dp
##unvote
##vote drazek
If I am bussing drazak I must have gone backwards in time to day one and told my past self to bus him. Seriously kush. I used to think you were a troll but now I realise you are just bad at this game.
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On November 08 2012 12:37 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 11:15 DarthPunk wrote:On November 08 2012 11:11 Acrofales wrote:
Did some thinking about kush claiming rb'd. I think scum rb'd him, thinking he is the SK.
That's making me think he's town. I disagree. Ok, convince me. Make a case on Kush that explains some of the following. Kush is an extremely unlikely SK. I tried making a case for him and couldn't. The problem is that voting behaviour. It's not something an SK would do. SKs don't pull stupid voting shenanigans, because they don't give a crap about the lynch, as long as it's not their head on the line. Do you feel lime that was all an elaborate act? To what purpose? Is kush even the kind of player who can pull that off? Imho you have to be Ace to even come up with that kinda stuff, let alone pull it off convincingly. And then, what's it all for? Kush is also unlikely scum. We already had the green check. We now have a roleblock claim. As far as I can see, the only way of this happening is if scum deliberately didn't roleblock (or roleblocked Prom) and took advantage of the missing block to claim RB'd themselves. Two problems here: The first is that the claim doeqsn't feel like a lie. It has frivolous details like the "I got a PM". That is too much effort for a lie: It describes a process. People lieing don't imagine the full scenario, just the relevant stuff, which would be "I was RB'd", without the extras. The second is that Kush already has the green check AND he claimed VT. Why have him claim RB'd, rather than his scumbuddy? This together makes him unlikely scum, but if we find a framer, I will reconsider this second part.
I'll address this when I claim.
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Risk. Do you still think prom is scum?
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