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kushm4sta
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kushm4sta
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Acrofales
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Regardless. ##vote Drazak | ||
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thrawn2112
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Acrofales
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On November 07 2012 07:44 mkfuba07 wrote: Was the trap for me? If so I'm sad =/ No. Trap was for whoever claimed vig. I thought an unlimited vig claim would put us at 7 non-VT roles, which according to the c9++ rules means no SK. I thought a scum might claim vig. But never mind, I wasn't thinking straight on multiple accounts with it. Back to good oldfashioned analysis. Also, a vig looks doubtful now that we had 0 kills tonight, but I will read thrawn with more attention to detail than I have recently. | ||
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Release
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##vote drazak His defense before the deadline wasn't tenable. avoid a mislynch? The response that would have exonerated him (in my eyes) is that he had no reason at all, or that he was dicking around with his vote because already secured. | ||
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Release
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On November 07 2012 09:04 thrawn2112 wrote: release, you think that acro claimed mason while knowing that muso was town? seems too crazy I just feel that this is leading to wifom. On November 03 2012 21:11 Acrofales wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2012 19:48 Promethelax wrote: This is a huge town tell on Kush. These were the thoughts I had as well but had not yet expressed due to the awful timing of that TL drop. Sorry I have been gone so long, work is a thing I have to do. I don't know of any way for mafia to know someone's role at that point. Kush. My name doesn't fit the theme you are looking at. How does that affect your read? I would also point to Acro giving out the idea that Kush and I would look scummy if Muso flipped town. Setting up the next mislynch. Figured I'd answer you two as a 2-for-1. You are both idiots for thinking Muso flipping green makes me look scummy. I don't think I am "confirmed town", because you can wifom a scum motive into pretty much anything, but you have to admit that Ockham's razor dubs me as pretty damn townie at this point. I was writing up my entire thought process, but I realized I don't need to. The reason is that counter-claiming a mason claim as scum is beyond idiotic. And anybody not seeing that I am almost certainly town through these actions is simply tunneling, or scum trying to discredit me. To answer kush's question: there is no way for scum to know the claim is fake, other than the same way I did: the claim felt wrong. However, as scum you have EXTRA information: you know the claimer is town. Anybody who has not played scum (apparently quite a few of you) do not know how much power that gives you: you never have to doubt or second-guess your cases: you know what is true about them already. If you want an example, look at Mattchew's play in Holy Roman Maffia. He bussed all his teammates, because he couldn't see how anybody could overlook some of their "obvious" scumslips. However, it also limits you: you do NOT question a townie claiming mason. Simply doesn't happen. At most a scum would've ticked it as "possible fake claim, maybe SK?" There is absolutely NO reason for scum to counterclaim. None. Anybody trying to wifom this around is simply lacking in knowledge on how scum plays. Yes, you could wifom anything and say "but if people think scum has no reason to counterclaim masons then they DO have a reason to counterclaim masons"... except that in most cases this will result in the scum getting lynched. I KNEW I'd have an uphill battle to not get lynched if Muso's claim was true. It was why I set up the whole encrypted thing beforehand. + Show Spoiler + The flavour theory is retarded. It's all I can say in my defense against that. It is fucking stupid to try to use flavour in Bugs' games, who meticulously sets up the game so flavour CANNOT be used and good old-fashioned analysis must prevail. Keep your mechanic-based analysis to themed games. This and that he repeatedly calls himself town still leave me doubtful. | ||
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Release
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thrawn2112
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On November 07 2012 09:07 Release wrote: Yo. I was roleblocked. ##vote drazak His defense before the deadline wasn't tenable. avoid a mislynch? The response that would have exonerated him (in my eyes) is that he had no reason at all, or that he was dicking around with his vote because already secured. why did you change your mind on drazak? because he didn't respond by some arbitrary time? you said a lot of words during n1 about how acro is scum, and you specifically said that acro, prome, and kush are your top scumreads. to me your drazak vote looks like you're abandoning your scumreads to sheep onto the popular vote | ||
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Release
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On November 07 2012 09:17 thrawn2112 wrote: why did you change your mind on drazak? because he didn't respond by some arbitrary time? you said a lot of words during n1 about how acro is scum, and you specifically said that acro, prome, and kush are your top scumreads. to me your drazak vote looks like you're abandoning your scumreads to sheep onto the popular vote I said if he didn't provide a tenable response (aka no reason), he would shoot to the top. He didn't, so he shot to the top. | ||
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Release
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kushm4sta
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I was roleblocked Why the fuck would anyone rb me?? | ||
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thrawn2112
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BTW: if there is a town jailer then they need to claim ASAP We have a claimed jailor (mkfuba) who claimed to rb prom We have release who claimed getting rb'd. That means we have potentially up to 2 roleblocks last night. If you are town jk and you rb'd release, you should claim. edit ok wtf now kush is claiming rb. so that's 3 potential rb's. Anyone that rb'd either kush or release should probably claim, especially if you are 1 shot. (or just pretend you're 1 shot in order to wifom mafia) sorting this out could end up leading to a 1-1 trade scenario | ||
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Release
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Already mentioned (no reason/dicking around b/c secured); i won't change my mind unless he convinces me of another scum. This is not to say that i won't change my vote: this is to say that i won't stop believing that he is scummy. | ||
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Release
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kushm4sta
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Why would scum rb me? I should be obviously vt to mafia. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17911 Posts
On November 07 2012 09:25 kushm4sta wrote: I just noticed that I got a pm. I was roleblocked Why the fuck would anyone rb me?? Lol. You have to ask? | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
##Vote: Release | ||
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kushm4sta
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Are you kidding me... people actually still think im scum or sk... LOL I was the first one to start talking about how vts had non character names. How would I know about that if i wasn't a vt.... When I get town I let you in me. I let you inside of me and I share all of myself with you. So it really upsets me when people retardedly think im not town. | ||
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