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On November 02 2012 23:12 Zealos wrote:
Which apparently we can't get, due to a replacement. That's a bummer:/

I guess the best bet for finding if he is scum is trying to work out whether Muso is telling us the truth or not. Muso, what do you make of prplhz/Prom?

On November 02 2012 15:19 Muso wrote:
Okay I am beginning to see that Lynch All Liars is the dominant philosophy around here.

I am sure many of you are very good players but there must seemingly be some very bad players around this site too, because how else could it possibly ever be a conceivable strategy for scum to claim mason on D1?

It would make zero sense to anybody, ever.

If you were mason and you knew this, and you knew that I within a 99% chance of certainty was also not a mason, then the conclusion you would draw would be that I was town. If however, the policy is to kill anybody who lies at the expense of all other logic then I get why I would be counter-claimed.

That was my thought process going in to the mason claim. I'm not trying to absolve myself of guilt. But do keep in mind that if Acro is telling the truth and is not a mason, then had he not counter-claimed me on a hunch the situation here would be quite different. If there are masons out there, then I guess they did exactly as I predicted they would??

Anyway, enough of that.

The post Acro is talking about is this one:


This is quite interesting. This setup is not C9++. However, it is similar enough that prplhz instantly recognizes that it is a modified form of C9++. Implication prplhz is very familiar with C9++. If you're familiar with the setup then you should know that the odds of 2 separate mason teams occurring are astronomically low. In fact in order for it to occur:

>> 5/7 of the random numbers between 1-100 generated by the host must be between 86-95.

Summary: this is very unlikely.

Now combine this with Acro's point on this being prplhz's first reaction and suddenly prplhz's post here looks decidedly odd, and as previously suggested: like somebody who believes there are 2 mason teams because town don't lie, and because neither Muso nor Acro are scum.

Earlier (before Acro's cc) prplhz, made this post:



A few things stick out to me:

1. Suddenly going to be too busy to post much. Where I come from, this often precedes a scum going in to lurker mode. Sign ups were only a couple of days ago. I am sure prplhz thought he could be active in the game when he signed up, but in the space of 48 hrs something's changed. One obvious change is he's received his role card :p.

2. ''Has a lot of interesting reads' so to speak, but won't post them for now because of lack of time. I don't know why this happens, but for some reason scum seem to say it all the time. Make him post them upon his return, or hold him to account for the statement.

3. His observation re: encryption suggests to me that it's something that he looked in to himself.

4. Hating on the one-liners. This is a weak point at best, but one-liners honestly don't bother me, but then I'm town and enjoy reading the day chat. Having played scum a lot in the past I do know the feeling, however when the day chat becomes tedious and you only read it because you have to. After all you've got your own secret night chat that is way more interesting, right?

##Vote: prplhz.

On November 02 2012 21:19 Muso wrote:
People getting all fired up here. Let's just keep it chill, guys.

I'm not sure about the whole replacement thing. Host made it pretty clear that he only replaces under exceptional circumstances, which I took to mean people's relatives dying, etc. That would suggest that there was probably a fairly legitimate reason for a number of the points I read as scum tells.

So I'm not sure anymore.

##unvote

Should at least let the new guy say something.

On November 02 2012 23:13 kushm4sta wrote:
I.voted for muso for this reason:
time had gone by and no one claimed as his.partner like I expected to happen.


Claim time again lol. but this claim is not fake.
I am anvil vanilla town.
My theory is vts do not have character names.
The only person I think should claim is if you are a vt and you have a character name.

On November 02 2012 23:17 Acrofales wrote:


I can answer this one. He wanted to lynch prplhz, but wants to give Promethelax some time to chip in:

On November 02 2012 23:21 Zealos wrote:

What?!?! Is this for real? You want all vt's to claim??
This is a seriously dodgy post lol.

On November 02 2012 23:25 risk.nuke wrote:

He's saying he wants 1 vt with a character specific name to claim to test the theory that all vt's have non-specific character names.

On November 02 2012 23:13 kushm4sta wrote:
I.voted for muso for this reason:
time had gone by and no one claimed as his.partner like I expected to happen.


Claim time again lol. but this claim is not fake.
I am anvil vanilla town.
My theory is vts do not have character names.
The only person I think should claim is if you are a vt and you have a character name.

On November 02 2012 23:36 drazak wrote:
Yeah, I'm getting a bit fed up with Kush asking for everyone to claim everything, that smells a little scummy to me. Kind of not sure if it's just kush being stupid and trolling like usual (yes, I know, I'm omgusing, don't care) or if he's actually got a larger scheme here.

Kush has admited to me a bunch of times that he doesn't thinks before he posts, so I dunno, but he keeps being stupid I think we can chalk it up to stupidity/trolling, if he stops, it was probably a scheme.

I'm not sure what to think about prom, the case against him is ok, but maybe prplhz was distracted and/or confused.

On November 02 2012 23:54 kushm4sta wrote:

Well draz is being wish washy as fuck here.
So you felt the need to weigh in on both me and prom, even though you have no idea what to think of either of them?
DRAZZAK

Anyone I am NOT trolling. I don't see how you would come to that conclusion.
I have been focusing on mechanics rather than behavior, though, that is true. I will focus on whatever I need to to find scum honestly. Analyzing behavior and analyzing mechanics are both tools you can and should use. I don't know why anyone would dismiss either.


Hypothetically, let's say that all vts have non character names like the ones that have been revealed so far (anvil, kid watching tv). Do you really think the mod would give break up that theme by randomly giving 1 vt a character name?

On November 03 2012 00:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
kush i cant believe you're trying to make d1 cases based on the flavor claimed by two people... just absurd

On November 02 2012 23:17 drazak wrote:
I don't see any reason to change my vote, I honestly have no freaking clue why muso did what he did, but there's nothing town about it, if he is town, he's doing a very bad job establishing himself as town.

I hope he isn't town though, a D1 mafia kill would definitely ensure our town victory.

On November 03 2012 00:15 kushm4sta wrote:
I don't want to lynch either muso or prpl.

Prpl was mislynched as town in his last several games. He looks very scummy as town. So keep that in mind.
Your case on him is very bas. The only scummy thing is giving a bunch of town reads which isn't that scummy.
So what if he thought there was 2 mason pairs. Not everyone knows the probability of that. Also I thought the same thing.

Muso, I think it would be very hard for scum to come up with that vt role name.

On November 03 2012 00:31 thrawn2112 wrote:
kush i cant believe you're trying to make d1 cases based on the flavor claimed by two people... just absurd

On November 03 2012 00:52 kushm4sta wrote:

It's not just based on 2 people claims. It's based on the lack of claim from ALL the vts, AND the claims of two people.

Acro seems really upset by my theory.
drazzak, acro, and thrawn have all shat on my theory now.
Why don't you guys actually EXPLAIN why it's such a bad idea instead of just SAYING it's bad.
Do you really believe that all VTs have non character role names except for one named Jessica Rabbit. I do not believe that is likely.

On November 03 2012 01:03 kushm4sta wrote:
I still want any vt with a character name to claim btw. If no one claims then I will also want to lynch acro.