OK here it Goes. I am going through Thrawns Filter before bed.
I know this is long. And I tried to be brief. But I think I found some potentially important things so please bear with me.
Starts off pretty null. He gets really involved in the mason claim stuff. A lot of posts and speculation on it. That situation was disastrous for town BTW it allows scum to post alot and look like they are contributing while townies herp derp and kill themselves.
I found the situation with the masons tiresome and boring so it is somewhat weird that he took such an interest in it.
Maybe scummy but I'l call it a null tell.
The first thing i found off about thrawn was his read on kush.
He makes a FoS on kush
On November 02 2012 21:51 thrawn2112 wrote:fos kushmuso/acroHis first statement about the double mason claim was this:
Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
Why would a scum fake claim mason....it makes no sense even coming from a 100% newbie. I'm expecting 2 mason teams.
Then a page or so goes by with people jumping on the vote muso bandwagon, and then here's kush's next post:
Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 05:09 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow if muso is actually scum and just randomly claimed mason that is going to be the worst scum play ever...
##vote muso
until we get a claim from his mason partner.
Also I don't think acro's partner should claim until muso's claims.
So he thinks that both claims are legit.... then after people start voting muso he decides to vote muso because of.... what change of opinion? None that I can see, just a disclaimer about waiting for additional claims.
Muso/Acro if you guys are both town and believe each other to be town, and you're skeptical of prplhz for beliveing both claims, what do you think about kush's actions?
Then there are a series of posts which berate him. And then not only is there a turnaround in kush's read on Kush he provides possibly the most useless post ever.
On November 03 2012 03:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
I don't want kush to get lynched today. Yes, he's said dumb stuff and he's on my radar but that's usually how it goes with him. Imo we need more information to make a kush read.
Kush picks up on this and ask what the point is
On November 03 2012 03:18 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 03:10 kushm4sta wrote:On November 03 2012 03:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
I don't want kush to get lynched today. Yes, he's said dumb stuff and he's on my radar but that's usually how it goes with him. Imo we need more information to make a kush read.
I have 0 votes for me. Why would you even say that...
Also thanks for a totally useless post. Who do you want to lynch?
What do you think of drazzaks scummy filter?
You have 0 votes but I wouldn't say that you being lynched is out of the question.
If I knew who I wanted to lynch.........
+ Show Spoiler +His filter is scummy, his initial vote on muso was full of denials of responsibility such as things along the line of "if he's town then he's not helping."
But much like you.... his town filters are always at least a little scummy so I haven't decided yet.
Here it gets really interesting. When asked about drazak he Is INCREDIBLY wishy washy. It is almost classically the scum response. State that your scum buddy is scummy in order to distance yourself but then discredit the very things you just said in order to arrive at no conclusion at all.
Then again in his very next post
On November 03 2012 04:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
got some stuff to do between now and lynch so for now,
##Vote: Muso
I think muso has the best potential for flipping red.
drazak has looked super scummy in every game i've seen him play
release... i'm still wary of him but I like muso's chances of being red better
So he isn't scum because he has a scummy town meta but then he is wary of him but some other guy is scummier....
More. He talks about wanting to lynch drazak
On November 06 2012 06:40 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 06:39 drazak wrote:I don't want to vote for prom but I will if it means a lynch, I think he's town and anyone who thinks otherwise is probably scum

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what do you guys think about lynching drazak
Then when someone actually does he backs off
On November 06 2012 06:44 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 06:41 mkfuba07 wrote:On November 06 2012 06:40 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 06 2012 06:39 drazak wrote:I don't want to vote for prom but I will if it means a lynch, I think he's town and anyone who thinks otherwise is probably scum

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what do you guys think about lynching drazak
I'm for it.
##Unvote
##Vote drazak howcome
Then not ONE thing is mentioned about drazak until this
On November 07 2012 02:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
I do agree that there is a lot of stuff to consider for drazak's case but I'm hesitant to decide on that right now.
ATM I think kush and acro are town. As far as scum suspects other than drazak, I'm somewhat at a loss right now because we weren't really able to get discussion about the hopeless lynch, it just happened. Going through his filter didn't give me much.
AFTER the hopeless lynch AFTER draz claimed scum. There is more of the same wishy washy shit that came before.
Speaking of the hopeless lynch. This is his entire contribution or discussion on it.
On November 06 2012 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
hopeless please tell me what that prom comment meant
On November 06 2012 07:49 thrawn2112 wrote:
"I also can't belive that prom just isn't running with this"
what did that part mean
On November 06 2012 07:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
##unvote
#Vote hopeless1der
Compare this to the one other post he made during hopeless' lynch
On November 06 2012 07:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
kush are you really not considering that a scum could just make up a inanimate object and claim vt with it? i really don't see why you are leaning so strongly on this unconfirmed flavor theory that scum can just manipulate by claiming well.
like it's so hard for me to accept that you're playing the game based on that theroy that i'm starting to doubt the accuracy of my check
It seems he has more to say about Kush than about the person he voted for.
Moving on. He questions people when they vote for drazak. Even though before he claimed scum in the thread he was 'wary' of him
On November 07 2012 09:17 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 09:07 Release wrote:
Yo. I was roleblocked.
##vote drazak
His defense before the deadline wasn't tenable. avoid a mislynch?
The response that would have exonerated him (in my eyes) is that he had no reason at all, or that he was dicking around with his vote because already secured.
why did you change your mind on drazak? because he didn't respond by some arbitrary time?
you said a lot of words during n1 about how acro is scum, and you specifically said that acro, prome, and kush are your top scumreads.
to me your drazak vote looks like you're abandoning your scumreads to sheep onto the popular vote
Chainsaw defense of drazak when release casts his vote for him
On November 07 2012 09:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
I'm having the same thoughts about release's drazak vote that I had about release's early game suspicions of kush: they aren't true town suspicious. I don't buy release's drazak vote at all. On top of that, he's only gotten worse about looking inherently guilty since the last time I mentioned him.
##Vote: Release
More wishy washiness over drazak I'll bold the wishy-washy part
On November 08 2012 01:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
With drazak, I agree with a lot of the stuff already talked about.. specifically the voting from D2. So I could still lynch him depending on how the rest of D3 goes. However the drazak bandwagon seemed like maybe almost too much of a natural progression in the thread, and afterwards everyone agreed about drazak and activity was low ever since. So I'm just looking at different stuff in the meantime while waiting for drazak to post
I can't rule prom out. but a lot of that is based on me basically assuming you're town (stuff from prplhz during the early mason claims.) but other than that, I haven't had any huge concerns about prom's play, except that it felt too clean, too intentionally pro-town.
I'm curious if anyone thinks that release shouldn't be lynched.
After the mood of the thread was quite clearly heading towards a resounding Drazak lynch we finally get a firm position by thrawn on drazak
After he had tried to lynch release for voting for this very player. After all the wishywashiness whenever he mentioned draz we get some solid standpoint.
On November 08 2012 12:09 thrawn2112 wrote:##Unvote
##Vote: drazakI was going through drazak's filter and it made me put aside my suspicions of his lynch coming about too easily. There is one thing in particular I want to point out that I think makes a red drazak flip is extremely likely.
Here's a series of posts starring drazak, prom, and everyone's favorite vt flavor theory. Prom asks drazak about his role, wondering if drazak is still sticking to his earlier vt flavor claim. Here's an exchange that comes immediately after that.
Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 08:28 Promethelax wrote:On November 06 2012 08:27 drazak wrote:
I already did that prom, like, D1, I'm carrot vanilla town
Glad to hear it, just wanted to see if you'd stick with that story.
Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 08:29 drazak wrote:
why would I ever change prom? that would make me insanely scummy
The answer drazak gave is not a town answer. If you are town then your answer will something like "no wtf prom i'm still the same." Drazak says he'd never have changed his flavor because that would make him look scummy... yes scum drazak, that would make you look scummy. But if you're town then the reason you wouldn't change your claim would be because you are town and you didn't lie about your claim so you have no reason to change it.
Of course he comes up with some reason of his own to lynch draz. But that is what scum love to do when bussing.
Then finally after someone had taken his bait for a release lynch
On November 09 2012 07:25 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2012 07:11 kushm4sta wrote:
##unvote release
##vote drazak
preventing no lynch
Would you still be good with lynching release? I haven't completely decided yet
He goes for it again. Even though his case on Draz was much stronger.
On November 09 2012 07:55 Acrofales wrote:Anything other than Drazak is fucking nuts.
He then get's blaste over this by every person in the thread. and rightly so and reluctantly switches back onto the most solid case he had made all game.
On November 09 2012 07:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
k fine
##unvote
##Vote drazak
Ever since aside from a case on the serial killer Who was also scummy as fuck Thrawn has been laying REALLY low. Sliding by and has not really contributed anything. The weird thing is I didn't seriously consider the possibility of thrawn being scum beofre I went through his filter really thoroughly. But when I did there was A LOT to be found.
If release flips town I think Thrawn is scum.
Ok I am off to bed. I am sorry I didn't do more but that took quite a long time. I would like to hear what others think of the findings here.
I'll be going through more filters in a similar fashion when I get up.