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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 06:34 GMT
#1754
Come to think of it. There is no other explanation for The missing KP night two other than release being scum and prom being jailed. SO MKFUBA can't be fakeclaiming or we would have had a kill night 2!

Mkfuba is confirmed town. And one of release/thrawn HAS to be the final scum.

Release is looking a thousand times worse than thrawn.

Release is the final scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 07:28 GMT
#1759
On November 12 2012 15:52 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 13:26 mkfuba07 wrote:
I'm back. My vote was up in the air in the beginning, because I was pondering over possibly voting kush. I'll stick with draz for now, since now that I've got confirmation bias out of my system, I can't confirm my theory until one of them flips.

##Vote drazak

@Release: I think it's likely that someone with a kp who was roleblocked would be more inclined to report it, because then there's a roleblocker out there who knows you haven't told the truth.

But on that note, the fact that you appear to have not thought of that makes me think you're town.

Edit: saw I was ninja'd. Wanted to comment anyway.


Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 16:02 mkfuba07 wrote:
I considered it, but I feel that scum wouldn't even consider saying what he did. As scum, I feel it would be my first reaction: "Can I just not claim? No, I have to claim, or someone will know I'm lying." As such, I would never consider it proof of innocence. I feel that he's wrong, and scum would never think to fake being wrong in that way. Does that make sense?


Fuba was the only one to support the case for my comment + Show Spoiler +
On November 08 2012 13:10 Release wrote:
On a day on which no one dies, occam's razor says that those who have kill roles will not claim to be RBed. It would lead to that line of reasoning ,"no one dead, this guy RBed, this guy has killing role"

being townie. I thought it was null, prome instantly looked at it with scummy possibility but fuba defends me.

I don't see anything that my post actually shows except for my inability to play mafia well. It is not townie and i don't see why fuba should defend me like that.

@darthpunk What if Fuba is just the scum RB who claimed one-shot and isn't going to use his RB powers anymore?


It is possible. But If you are town and FUBA is scum can you explain how the night actions on night 2 work out? And why there were no kills?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 08:31 GMT
#1765
On November 12 2012 17:06 Release wrote:
@DP
Acro RBs me.
DP jails Kush
Fuba RBs prome

Some acro logic: Fuba knows that Thrawn is town (or SK claim) so he is less likely to doubt the green check than town and town didn't doubt it too much. Kush is the confirmed green so it be best if he took a shot at Kush.


That is certainly plausible. I still think Prom was a much more sensible and likely NK target than kush was. But it is certainly possible. And If scum have no reason to doubt thrawns claim kush would certainly be a confirmed green in their eyes.

Hmm Interesting.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 12:11 GMT
#1768
On November 12 2012 20:15 Promethelax wrote:
well, excellent lynch guys. Glad we go that one through.

I think it is safe to treat Risk's cases like we would a flipped townie. We know his best bet for survival was to convince us that someone else was scummier than he was.

I'm pretty tired so I'm going to have to keep thinking on this but I think we can use the no KP night to prove who the last scum is/isn't.

Any ways I'm done work for the weekend so I'm back in the game 100%. Before the night kill comes through you'll have my full thoughts. I think I'm a more likely night kill than DP is tonight but we'll see.

DP use the roleblock half tonight. Not the medic. I think you share my views on this but you should know whats up. Also: why did you JK me n1? I know you had a big ole town read on me but why did you expect to prevent a kp by jk'ing me?


I jailed you because you were my biggest town read. You were very active and looking like your townie self. That was by far the best reason that I had at that point. No one else looked particularly townie to me.
That was 90% of it. I also had some thoughts about replacements in general. I think I read somewhere that replacements are often killed by scum early on if they look townie. I think it was in TLVII or Liquid City. But I remember someone saying that and it played a small part.

But mainly it was early on in the game and you were clearly town and a threatening townie for scum to keep around at that.

I don;t feel like my jails were particularly bad. I really don;t understand what the problem with them is. Maybe I should have jailed matt? No offence to him but he has been useless in the last two games I had with him and showed no signs of improvement this game. Zealos would not have made a good jail either. There was talk of him being modkilled.

Fair enough if we had a marv or a hapa in this game I would have jailed them over you for sure. But there was no solid night one candidate like that. You were one of the strongest players in the game and also looked towniest.

So meh. I'm sure I'll get some feedback in post game about my jails but I feel they were good choices overall.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 13:03 GMT
#1769
Heh. I 'll go to bed now so I am up before the day post. good night all.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 22:59 GMT
#1776
ok. Got up just in time. I jailed Release.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 23:02 GMT
#1781
On November 13 2012 08:00 Release wrote:
i lied alright
@kush


You lie a lot.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 23:04 GMT
#1786
##Vote: Release
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 23:11 GMT
#1798
On November 13 2012 08:10 Promethelax wrote:
okay. Town I lend my weighty voice to this plan. We lynch Release today, 100% no questions asked. However we go out and scumhunt as if he has already flipped green and the other five of us are all that is left in this game.

Fuba
DP
Kush

I know you all are around. I'd like your thoughts on everyone left in the game. Leave no one out.


Yeah hang on I got up like 5 minutes ago. I am going about my morning ritual. and then I will post.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 23:13 GMT
#1799
On November 13 2012 08:11 kushm4sta wrote:
That outcome actually doesn't tell is anything because it was mafia's smartest play whoever they are to not nk.


How so? would you care to elaborate on that?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 23:25 GMT
#1811
Yeah. I had thought of that, It was already discussed. I wanted to hear what you thought first though. I tried to act like I wasn't going to Jail release in the thread. These are the three options for why there was no NK.

Release is scum and was jailed. Likely

Release is town and mafia held back the NK hoping to manipulate the blue action into a mislynch. Plausible

Release is town and was targeted for the Night KIll. Ridiculous
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 23:29 GMT
#1812
On November 13 2012 08:25 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 08:23 kushm4sta wrote:
I still think release is scum. I'm just saying that the no kill means nothing.

Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 09:36 Release wrote:
If I'm scum, ask DP to JK me.
If there is a kill, I am not scum.

If there is no kill, we have another day to hash things out.
(Yes, the scum might withhold a KP.)

Prome, do you read my posts or discard them as trash?

Actual question.


The thing is though release. You know you were likely getting jailed last night. And what you are saying would be the exact excuse to use if you were jailed as scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 12 2012 23:39 GMT
#1814
Anyway. If release is town. The last scum is one of

Thrawn, Fuba and Me

Prom cannot be scum as he was Jailed as was the serial killer and kp still resolved.

Kush can only be scum if there are 2 godfathers.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 13 2012 00:14 GMT
#1817
On November 13 2012 08:59 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 08:25 Release wrote:
On November 13 2012 08:23 kushm4sta wrote:
I still think release is scum. I'm just saying that the no kill means nothing.

On November 12 2012 09:36 Release wrote:
If I'm scum, ask DP to JK me.
If there is a kill, I am not scum.

If there is no kill, we have another day to hash things out.
(Yes, the scum might withhold a KP.)

Prome, do you read my posts or discard them as trash?

Actual question.


I read literally every post from every player (except Kush in LC) when I'm in a game. I am never 100% in someone's alignment until they flip and always prefer to hear what someone has to say over ignoring it.

Although a lot of your posts are trash I decide that after reading them.

When you say something it is how you see it, when Kush says something it is how Kush sees it. I want to hear those things from both people. Even if the thoughts are the same.

DP: don't discount the possibility of two god fathers. Out of Fuba and Thrawn who do you think is scum and why? (I assume you won't provide the case against yourself).


I would provide the case against my self. But I don't think I would be able to see anything scummy. You know, Because I have already rationalised all my actions this game and I am town so everything I post looks pretty darn townie to myself.

Out of FUBA and thrawn. Hmm that is a tough one. I think both are plausible. Thrawn had a lot of weirdness around scum votes and has not been what I remember of his townie self. He has flown under the Radar much more than I remember in my last game with him and a couple of his newbies in which he was very vocal and had a penchant for becoming somewhat of a town leader.

Fuba always looks pretty scummy to me even when he is town. Maybe That's why I am inclined to believe he is town this game. Despite him not making much in the way of contributions.

Neither of them look as bad as release who has been scummy since day one and I was almost certain was the serial killer.

SO I still want to lynch him first. If he somehow flips green, which I doubt, I will do a thorough inspection of Fuba's and thrawns filters post my findings and see how I feel. I may even do it today. But my other game just started and I may be pressed for time. We shall see.

Who do you find scummiest out of the three of us and why?




"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 13 2012 00:19 GMT
#1819
On November 13 2012 09:13 Promethelax wrote:
Any thoughts on 4 scum vs 3 scum? Does anyone have any really good idea as to which way this will go? I am stuck on balance and another goon/GF kinda makes sense...
Also would make release saying that he can't concede in the way he said it make sense.

Don't get complacent.


It is possible. That would make this MYLO I believe. Balance and set up speculation has yielded little fruit for me. Both thrawn and Fuba could be fake claiming as scum.

I am not reading to much into that concede thing. I don't know if that is the correct thing to do or not though.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 13 2012 00:20 GMT
#1820
On November 13 2012 09:17 Promethelax wrote:
I find thrawn the scummiest. I thought that was clear from what I said earlier.

I'm used to him being a vocal, good town player. Here he has been an under the radar nobody. I've talked about this before in my filter and I would have lynched him earlier without so many scum claims.

My last scum after release is Thrawn after him is Kush. I think Both You and Fuba are town. Fuba has never been a really townie player but his actions seem reasonable here.


Yeah. I know you said that earlier. I am just trying to keep discussion going and you are the only one around. It frustrates me that everyone is so complacent.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 13 2012 00:31 GMT
#1824
On November 13 2012 09:23 kushm4sta wrote:
@ dp so why can't prome be scum? you say he was jailed but the kp and sk still resolved? what night was that?


Holy shit Kush. ROFL. The night before last. Acro RB'd Risk. I jailed Prom. Prom is confirmed town. Far more so than you are.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 13 2012 00:32 GMT
#1825
On November 13 2012 09:31 kushm4sta wrote:
where in the thread is it explained? i asked this before but acros explanation was not conclusive.


It was after acro died. It has nothing to do with acro's theory.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 13 2012 00:47 GMT
#1828
On November 13 2012 09:46 Promethelax wrote:
DP, I know you are around. I'd really like to see a filter dive from you in this day cycle. I know we aren't as exciting as a new game but it would be nice to finish this one on a high note.


I'll get to it. Promise.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
November 13 2012 00:49 GMT
#1830
I'll do it before the second half of the cycle. Which is sometime today my time. Probably after you yanks have gone to bed though. I generally like to do it then because that is the period of almost no activity.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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