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On November 02 2012 11:28 drazak wrote: Why are you so bent on what mafia is doing Release? that only leads to WIFOM and shows a night mindset. Are you mafia? Why are you thinking so much about night? On November 02 2012 23:36 drazak wrote: Yeah, I'm getting a bit fed up with Kush asking for everyone to claim everything, that smells a little scummy to me. Kind of not sure if it's just kush being stupid and trolling like usual (yes, I know, I'm omgusing, don't care) or if he's actually got a larger scheme here. Kush has admited to me a bunch of times that he doesn't thinks before he posts, so I dunno, but he keeps being stupid I think we can chalk it up to stupidity/trolling, if he stops, it was probably a scheme. I'm not sure what to think about prom, the case against him is ok, but maybe prplhz was distracted and/or confused. On November 03 2012 05:53 drazak wrote: Kush, do you even read my posts? Also, trying to write a long post in another window, hold on a bit. I'm a VT, Carrot, btw. On November 03 2012 06:07 drazak wrote: Release actually tried to scumhunt, I'm seeing town on him, even though he still wants to vote for me. I don't think he's done anything to cause confusion, and I think he really wants to find a mafia right now, which is what I'm trying to do. Mattchew is also looking town, although I'd like him to be a bit more active, I don't think he'd say that he likes his gut instincts D1 if he didn't believe in them and have somewhat decent evidence, less town than release but definitely a town read. Hope has about the right amount of defensiveness for a townie, he's gone to lurk mode around lynch time which makes me a little nervous, everyone else seems to be here and willing to talk except him. Not sure what he's up to but when he starts posting again I hope he has a good explaination, I'm neutral on him right now. Thrawn has been trying his damnedest to scumhunt for a D1 hunt, not sure what he thinks he might actually accomplish, but he's asking questions like I should be (but I don't because I suck  ) and trying to make things happen. I find him distinctly town at the moment.risk.nuke has not a lot to go on in his filter, and every single one of his comments is 1 line and most of them are fluffy. I think this is even worse than my posts have been. I find him 2nd scummiest after muso. Kush is just doing his fucking trolly ass shit. Town meta for him 100% Zealos doesn't vote anyone and isn't happy with Acro or Muso, not sure what to think here, he wants to vote two of my town reads, not sure I like this, but might just not be following that closely. On November 04 2012 22:03 drazak wrote: so... we've got an sk for sure? No way that was a vig shot or something? Hey kush, why did you bluehunt so hard, I'm not cool with that. On November 04 2012 01:27 drazak wrote: I think Kush just didn't think Acro was town at the time, so he's like, "why the fuck are you fake claiming and then saying you fake claimed and then still claim town?" I think it was just incredulity. This just comes from watching a lot of kush's game though and knowing how his troll mind works. On November 04 2012 22:10 drazak wrote: I don't like DP, he has a bunch of fluffy ass shit in his filter, I want to hear more from hope, he's been really lurky. probably my top two scum reads right now. This makes me pretty sure DP is town. No Scummer gives their two buddies as their top reads (matt withstanding) because you need to be able to jump on a counter wagon and having a pre recorded reason to do so is mmm-mm tasty. On November 05 2012 00:22 drazak wrote: Kush typically trolls as town, but reading it again his trolling had an awful awful lot of blue hunting, I'm not calling him scum yet, I just asked him a question regarding his bluehunting, if he keeps giving troll posts I think he's probably town, if he gets really defensive, I think he might be scum, just my thoughts though. On November 05 2012 22:15 drazak wrote: Hey nuke, I kind of like your opinion on Prom, but I'm not sold on him being scum yet, do you have anything else to add to his case? I think he might be town still, do you have more to add to his case? Please convince me. I think Hope right now is my #1 read because he still hasn't posted jack shit, he comes back and is like "lol, I haven't posted and I should feel bad" and then doesn't post more, I'm gonna park a vote on him until I hear more from him, I want to know what his top reads are and wtf he thinks he's doing. |##vote hopeless1der On November 05 2012 22:26 drazak wrote: Yeah, kush is definitely town, don't think he's a godfather, this is the type of crazy shit that town kush posts, check his other games, lol. | ||
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What made you change your mind to thinking thrawn was scummier than Fuba? | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:47 Promethelax wrote: A short play in red, black and green, directed by Promethelax; starring Drazak This makes me pretty sure DP is town. No Scummer gives their two buddies as their top reads (matt withstanding) because you need to be able to jump on a counter wagon and having a pre recorded reason to do so is mmm-mm tasty. What conclusions do you draw from that out of interest? | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:51 DarthPunk wrote: Sorry for being absent. I was just in the most epic hour of mafia ever. Release you stopped caring about cases. You were pushing FUBA and then you sheeped the thrawn case and stopped contributing all together. What made you change your mind to thinking thrawn was scummier than Fuba? remember that post made by fuba about my case = null but I'm still scum(last part implied and clarified later)? Thrawn jumped on that way too hard, without giving fuba a chance to clarify. | ||
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On November 14 2012 12:38 Release wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 13 2012 08:03 mkfuba07 wrote: So... lynch Release? On November 13 2012 08:04 mkfuba07 wrote: ##Vote Release On November 14 2012 11:01 mkfuba07 wrote: I'm still going through thrawn's filter (sorry I'm so slow, I'm not even sure I'll be adding much to what DP said), but I'm not sure what to think from Release's big cases. He hasn't given up despite the fact that we've made it clear that we're lynching him, which initially made me inch back towards town. The problem is that scum would probably do that as well. The situation feels similar to when I switched off of drazak earlier this game. The fact that I know his entire case against me is incorrect doesn't make me sway either way, as I think it could be made by town or scum. I guess a summary would be... initially townish, but in the end null. On November 14 2012 12:06 mkfuba07 wrote: I see nothing wrong with my post. It explains my reasoning. His cases had little impact on my thoughts of him. How is my claim the hardest to accept? My claim leaves an indication that something has happened. I said I jailed prome, and prome was roleblocked and didn't die, which I maintain was a likelihood N2. This is supported by the fact that there were 0 deaths. Your claim is impossible to verify at all. You crumbed a role that you could fakeclaim as scum with no possible downside unless you claim the bulletproof sk is town, and which leaves no evidence that anyone did anything. If I was scum roleblocker, why would I claim 1-shot jailer? It doesn't make any sense. Yours is the easiest fakeclaim. You say there could be any number of reasons for scum me to know what the SK was doing N2? Please name one. And breadcrumbs are non-indicative of alignment. Anyone can crumb anything. If I was scum planning on fakeclaiming, I'm pretty sure I'd be MORE likely to have a well-written crumb. Anyway, I trust prome, and I trust DP. If the scum wasn't release, it would have to be thrawn. I'm up for a lynch on either. The order is irrelevant to me. ##Unvote ##Vote thrawn2112 This may be slightly motivated by a need to be right when I called thrawn scum N2. At first i saw this as an inconsistency(scum --nochange-->null?) but upon further inspection, I see it as poor word followed by clarification (scum --(case=null)nochange--> still scum). However: On November 14 2012 11:32 thrawn2112 wrote: i think I want to lynch mkfuba. Every point in this game where I've thought about lynching release, I always hit a roadblock because he is extremely open with his thought process and it's be really difficult to keep that up as scum This I immediately recognized as a desperate attempt to capitalize on something rather insignificant: The post is far to unclear as to whether the null refers to me or the case i made (it was actually the case) and Thrawn automatically makes it out to be me, something that would imply the guilt of Fuba without giving fuba a chance to clarify(which he did in the next post) and you immediately switch to something else to implicate fuba. here | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:55 Release wrote: remember that post made by fuba about my case = null but I'm still scum(last part implied and clarified later)? Thrawn jumped on that way too hard, without giving fuba a chance to clarify. So how does thrawns flip do to your read on Fuba? Who is the last scum if you are town? To be honest this is all shit you should be doing on your own if you were town. | ||
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On November 03 2012 06:27 Hopeless1der wrote: I skimmed so I don't have any details yet. Off the bat: No to lynching Prom Yes to lynching Muso Almost yes to lynching draz (Facepalm to kush in general) On November 05 2012 03:19 Hopeless1der wrote: I think that's right, but does it really matter? With the exception of deciding to No-Lynch, what does that information change about your reads? On November 05 2012 04:01 Hopeless1der wrote: That was uncanny...Release, scumreads if you please. Despite reading Prom as scum, he's at least talkative. What do you have going on? On November 05 2012 05:35 Hopeless1der wrote: He thinks he found 4 scum and the connection theory is strong with this one. Kush is the ringleader?! That's a stretch. However, I would be interested in lynching drazak out of his list. | ||
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I collected those quotes so that others could have a look at them. The one thing I think is that what Draz said makes you look quite townie. I also wonder why both Hope and Draz call Kush a derp but don't do a damned thing about it. | ||
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On November 15 2012 11:58 DarthPunk wrote: So how does thrawns flip do to your read on Fuba? Who is the last scum if you are town? To be honest this is all shit you should be doing on your own if you were town. Why are you holding me accountable and not Kush? Fuba is still full of excuses. The post to which thrawn responded is an excuse for not having any opinions. But right now, I am absolutely feeling that Kush is the most likely scum. He was so adamant about doing nothing during the day and sheeping whenever possible. And doing nothing after the vote switched. Silencing discussion. | ||
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On November 15 2012 12:01 Promethelax wrote: DP. In all honesty I am the confirmed town. I don't want to give my opinions. It is too easy for everyone to sheep me and we get Thrawn up there swinging because I think he looks scummy. I collected those quotes so that others could have a look at them. The one thing I think is that what Draz said makes you look quite townie. I also wonder why both Hope and Draz call Kush a derp but don't do a damned thing about it. well I didn't exactly sheep you on thrawn but I see what you mean. For what it is worth I think Kush looks scummy as shit from the things you posted. But I have a hard time wrapping my head around scum kush. He has a confirmed green check. The only way he could be scum is if there were 2 godfathers in a set-up with a one shot cop. I doesn't seem very likely. Also as the confirmed town your reads are the only ones that can be completely trusted. It is almost certainly going to be up to you to lead whoever is town through MYLO. So be prepared for that. | ||
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On November 15 2012 12:09 Release wrote: Why are you holding me accountable and not Kush? Fuba is still full of excuses. The post to which thrawn responded is an excuse for not having any opinions. But right now, I am absolutely feeling that Kush is the most likely scum. He was so adamant about doing nothing during the day and sheeping whenever possible. And doing nothing after the vote switched. Silencing discussion. I have tried getting kush to make a case on me. Then we tried getting him to make a case on Thrawn. He doesn't give a shit. By all rights he should have been lynched. But he has a green check with a flipped SK and GF that is the only thing that is saving him. Is it fair? no. But that's life sometimes. | ||
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On November 15 2012 12:13 DarthPunk wrote: well I didn't exactly sheep you on thrawn but I see what you mean. For what it is worth I think Kush looks scummy as shit from the things you posted. But I have a hard time wrapping my head around scum kush. He has a confirmed green check. The only way he could be scum is if there were 2 godfathers in a set-up with a one shot cop. I doesn't seem very likely. Also as the confirmed town your reads are the only ones that can be completely trusted. It is almost certainly going to be up to you to lead whoever is town through MYLO. So be prepared for that. Not a goddamn chance I'm here in MYLO. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + number of mention in Drazak's filter. ima green the actives (not confirmed town i believe) kush - 15 release - 3 prom - 12 dp - 5 hope - 10 matt - 1 thrawn - 2 acro - 7 fuba - 2 risk - 9 zealos - 2 muso - 9 It's pretty clear (or it should be) that hope and draz basically threw their lives away and trusted that their last (1/2) scum buddy would win. I am almost certain that this was a plan devised in response to the green-check on Kush, the godfather. With the greencheck and the death of another godfather, Kush is almost certain scum, which buys him a free ticket to the end-game, giving drazak the chance to tap out as well. | ||
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On November 03 2012 05:49 Release wrote: epicly ninja'd by 5 posts but i will state my shit: I will push for Promethelax, but if such a lynch is impossible and a lynch on drazzak is possible by my switch of vote, then i will do so. It's like he thinks by talking about his scummy voting behavior it no longer looks scummy. Then again: On November 07 2012 14:36 Release wrote: I know what'll happen if i change my vote: "afraid to bus my scum buddy!" "too wish-washy!" w/e: ##unvote: ##vote: draz ##unvote ##vote: kush ##unvote ##vote: draz I'll take either. On November 07 2012 14:37 Release wrote: ##unvote ##vote: kush I am a quadrillion percent certain that release is scum. | ||
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So, this meta is excellent for a scum to appear towny. None other than Hope confirms that Kush has this type of meta. A quick check over hope's filter shows again, that Kush has the most interactions (bar Prom, but everyone has had tons with prom). | ||
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