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On October 25 2012 12:49 Hapahauli wrote: I love how we're trained not to edit our posts lol Yea, rofl. Edited it now  Also edited it again, if anyone is interested in some chat logs :D | ||
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On October 25 2012 13:25 Hapahauli wrote: Did either of the co-hosts ever post a vote count? o-O Yah BH was really on top of things - just like the last GSL II where I posted like 2 votecounts on the first day =P I don't think so? I dont think fuba or shady have posted at all in this thread. | ||
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debears wrote: Also check out this post by keir """"filter Bleh I started writing a bunch of stuff then almost fell asleep. Trying to think after drinking isn't quit as easy as I was hoping Marv has moved pretty far up my scum reads. Maybe even higher than ZB at this point. I don't want to hammer tonight, but I do expect his long defense that he promised when I wake up. Also a quick question marv: Do you still think I am scum? Maybe me and Hapa for coming up with the exact same case at nearly the exact same time? You obviously think Hapa is scum, but if not me, who is your second candidate? Hell, if you still think I am your second candidate, who is your third and why?"""" See the last part about 3 scum? Keir isn't a newbie. He knows there are 2 scum in a nine player game, especially when BH says there are. Is this 2nd level scum thinking??? I knew that I wasn't scum So what I was asking was that if there was some way for me and Hapa to instantly die right that second, and Hapa flipped scum and I flipped town, who would marv's next candidate in line be. | ||
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I really enjoy the instant lynch mechanic in general, because it adds a fun dynamic that's just a different change of pace. BUT, when people aren't required to vote, its much harder to hold them accountable for their votes and reasoning for them. I don't think there's any way to really fix that and keep the instant lynch in though  Day lengths were fine. I think we used them appropriately. | ||
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On October 25 2012 14:59 vaderseven wrote: I would insta /in any game on TL that used that system. I like the player skill level on TL but hate the standard rules here. One other rule I hate about big games on TL (didnt effect this game obv) is the scum kill point system. Everywhere else I play the scum get 1 kill per night. Thats it. Doesnt matter if its 22 player game with 5 scum or 7 player game with 2 scum or whatever. 1 scum team = 1 kill. It makes roles like SK more scarey or a 2nd night kill more a point of interest (was it a one time night action, is there a sk, is there a weirdness going on like a 2nd scum team, etc). It also makes it so that the game feels more stable from a VT perspective. /soapbox on mafia rules 1 kill in 30 player games just makes the game drag on for soooooooo long. That's part of the reason why I've never played mafia on any other site. They generally have day/night cycles that are just unbearably long. I basically love all of the general TL norms, as far as rules go. | ||
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On October 25 2012 22:25 marvellosity wrote: With a different playerbase I might have gotten away with it, but against Hapa/Keirathi/austin... not a chance  It was a bit unfortunate that the two people who I am most comfortable with their meta were both scum | ||
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On October 25 2012 23:27 austinmcc wrote: I get stuck thinking there are cases where someone posting less would be a good play. There are definitely times when lurking is a valid strategy. Its hard to separate when its scum doing that from townies though, sadly. | ||
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On October 25 2012 23:52 Z-BosoN wrote: Haha I really have to reread what I post. Most of the time as town I just write stuff and click on post. Even though I try to be concise and stuff, it doesn't always happen, and there are bound to be some contradictions and inconsistencies. When I defended myself against Keir by saying "@that hapa thing", and making reference to the wrong situation, I actually DID notice after I posted that this was not the passage Kei was referring to. I began to make a post explaining that actually, but I figured "ah fuck that, no one is gonna notice". Then Hapa came along and @#%#!. All my non-newbie games I was town. In every single one of those people really wanted to lynch me. Now I see that a townie's job is to both scumhunt AND look as townie as possible, so as to not draw unnecessary attention. Gonna focus on that for the next few days. It's much easier to look for scum when you don't have to keep defending yourself at every turn. @austin, yay you finally had me figured out, hooray! Just keep saying I'm town all the time now, and you should be fine =p I was pretty damn convinced you were scum after your reasoning for that hammer, after you were already my top suspect. And yea, looking townie is super important. I didn't do a particularly great job of it this game (extenuating circumstances sadface). I think a major key to that is not saying or doing WTF/unexplainable things. I want you to seriously go back and look at your reasoning for hammering v7 as objectively as possible. If that was someone else making that reasoning, would it make any sense? You cherry-picked certain excuses to believe while discarding others, etc etc. All of your reasoning felt EXTREMELY forced, and looked like you were just looking for SOME reason to justify your magical scum read and then the hammer. I think as long as you work on not doing WTF things, you can be quite good. Minor inconsistencies during running dialogue are often commented on, but as long as you explain yourself, they're often overlooked in the grand scheme of things | ||
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I love iamperfection's style of posting as town, but as scum it is very, very distinctly different. I called him out for it day 1 in GSl 2. He kept up the illusion in this game for a while, under marv's tuttelage, but he couldn't keep it up forever. Marv getting caught eventually was just kind of inevitable though, without many filler town games between so many scum games. I truly believe that he just didn't have the heart for playing scum again this game, sadly. But scum marv on top of his game is still as scary as it gets on TL right now, IMO. | ||
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On October 26 2012 03:54 Promethelax wrote: Yeah I like the idea of a defined deadline on D1 as I think it is easily possible to push a no lynch on forever as town in this set up and wait for the mafia to slip up. Infinite day one seems too likely to go on for a really long time, I think later days are more likely to end as people will have real information and want real results. I was suprised you weren't calling me scum in obs QT | ||
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E: and you called me scum in LC in the Obs thread for not jumping on some post by Z-Bo. I never did find the post you were talking about, but it wasn't really a pattern of him saying "hey, I'm town!" over an over again like you did :p | ||
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I just get lucky occasionally. | ||
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On October 26 2012 04:52 marvellosity wrote: says the guy who got lynched when he last claimed xD He didn't get lynched in Aperture 2 after that ridiculously convenient claim! | ||
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On October 26 2012 04:54 austinmcc wrote: You say "ridiculously convenient"; I say "convincingly ridiculous" Maybe for some people :p | ||
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On October 26 2012 05:04 austinmcc wrote: Gotta have dat "Why would I be given such a stupid fakeclaim?" argument to fall back on. Which made no sense in the context of that game. No one else had a stupid claim, so yours felt even more out of place | ||
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