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drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
October 24 2012 00:53 GMT
#781
Wow, that post, I skimmed it before, but reading it again,I'm really starting to believe it, it's pretty comprehensive and those signs are pretty exact. I think if we lynch marv and he's scum, whomever the medic is has to save hapa because that wouldn't be a bus, but if marv isn't scum, maybe lynch hapa the next day?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#782
On October 24 2012 09:53 drazak wrote:
Wow, that post, I skimmed it before, but reading it again,I'm really starting to believe it, it's pretty comprehensive and those signs are pretty exact. I think if we lynch marv and he's scum, whomever the medic is has to save hapa because that wouldn't be a bus, but if marv isn't scum, maybe lynch hapa the next day?


so you have nothing to say about my actual play this game??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
October 24 2012 00:55 GMT
#783
To me, your play is pretty neutral, but based on the meta evidence? I think you're scum. I have no problem voting youbased on the meta evidence.

##vote marvellosity
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 24 2012 00:56 GMT
#784
Vote Count!

Marvellosity (2) - Hapahauli, Drazak
Hapahauli (1) - Marvellosity

Not Voting (5) - Keirathi, DarthPunk, austinmcc, Z-Boson, Iamperfection

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.



Day ends when a majority is reached.

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 24 2012 01:01 GMT
#785
On October 24 2012 09:55 drazak wrote:
To me, your play is pretty neutral, but based on the meta evidence? I think you're scum. I have no problem voting youbased on the meta evidence.

##vote marvellosity


of course you don't.

you with the fine knowledge of how i play and hapa's cherrypicked case.

fabulous
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
October 24 2012 01:04 GMT
#786
Can you provide me with evidence to the contrary then? Town games in your last 10 or so games where you play like you have this game?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 24 2012 01:04 GMT
#787
On October 24 2012 09:49 Hapahauli wrote:
@ DP

Please read this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&currentpage=37#724

...then comment
...then vote marv


Hmm. I haven't really played with marv before so I find it harder to relate to a case on meta with him than it is with z-boson.

The main thing that I agree with is that he has not really scum hunted in the way I would expect from him. Like he solves games all the fricking time in obs chats and sometimes pegs entire scum teams and fucking red checked hatters as town at the same time.(wtf!?) (Mad Men I believe)

Maybe I am putting him on a pedestal. But he just isn't being the blatantly IMBA, scum hunting, solving the game kind of townie I was expecting.

This game he has pretty much just defended people and shut cases down rather than be proactive, scumhunt and Pressure people.

I think your case is really strong. I actually really identified with the association stuff that Austin brought up also. (but I am a sucker for that kind of business)

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 24 2012 01:05 GMT
#788
Also I still don't understand why I pissed marv off for asking him to stop giving town reads and start giving scum reads. So theres that.

FU marv.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 24 2012 01:06 GMT
#789
On October 24 2012 10:04 drazak wrote:
Can you provide me with evidence to the contrary then? Town games in your last 10 or so games where you play like you have this game?


I've been asking him this for two hours and he's never provided. Don't count on it.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 24 2012 01:06 GMT
#790
On October 24 2012 09:53 drazak wrote:
Wow, that post, I skimmed it before, but reading it again,I'm really starting to believe it, it's pretty comprehensive and those signs are pretty exact. I think if we lynch marv and he's scum, whomever the medic is has to save hapa because that wouldn't be a bus, but if marv isn't scum, maybe lynch hapa the next day?


Here we go again.

##Vote: Drazak
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
October 24 2012 01:07 GMT
#791
Vote Count!

Marvellosity (2) - Hapahauli, Drazak
Hapahauli (1) - Marvellosity
Drazak (1) - DarthPunk

Not Voting (4) - Keirathi, austinmcc, Z-Boson, Iamperfection

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.



Day ends when a majority is reached.

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 24 2012 01:08 GMT
#792
<3 Blazinghand. Coach me plox. <3
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 24 2012 01:08 GMT
#793
I don't think that post is scummy DP.

Probably because I still think there's no sane way that marv flips town in this one.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 24 2012 01:10 GMT
#794
On October 24 2012 10:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I don't think that post is scummy DP.

Probably because I still think there's no sane way that marv flips town in this one.


Hapa. Read it again. Or am I going insane. Living in backwards land were scummy is town and town is scummy. Holy shit.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 24 2012 01:10 GMT
#795
Oh wait you got tunnel vision goggles. Nevermind.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 24 2012 01:12 GMT
#796
Read it under the assumption marv is town. Then see what I see. Also I need to stop triple posting. Jesus.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 24 2012 01:13 GMT
#797
I mean honestly, what's scummy about it? Draz is pretty capable of doing that as town IMO.

Please describe to me how it's scummy. Seriously, I don't get it.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
October 24 2012 01:13 GMT
#798
Hey DP, did you actually read all of Hapa's post? Did you follow the links? Cause if you do you'll find out what I'm talking about here, If there are games to the contrary that marv can show regarding his meta, I'd love to see them, and happily unvote. AFAIK from what hapa has told me about his own play when coaching me, and what he did this game, he's doing what he does as town (or what he does every game, which is null)
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 24 2012 01:14 GMT
#799
Well under the assumption that marv's town, Drazak plopped down a quick vote on someone he finds scummy. I suspect that you're finding this bit scummy:

Wow, that post, I skimmed it before, but reading it again,I'm really starting to believe it, it's pretty comprehensive and those signs are pretty exact. I think if we lynch marv and he's scum, whomever the medic is has to save hapa because that wouldn't be a bus, but if marv isn't scum, maybe lynch hapa the next day?


...which I don't see as scummy given that he talks about the possibility that marv flips scum as well. It's just an overall part of his analysis methinks.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
October 24 2012 01:17 GMT
#800
On October 24 2012 09:53 drazak wrote:
Wow, that post, I skimmed it before, but reading it again,I'm really starting to believe it, it's pretty comprehensive and those signs are pretty exact. I think if we lynch marv and he's scum, whomever the medic is has to save hapa because that wouldn't be a bus, but if marv isn't scum, maybe lynch hapa the next day?



Drazak continues to show me he has no idea whats going on by saying the dumbest stuff ever. On top of it its an association before a flip which i have the greatest disdains. Hapa disagrees wit my line of think here but i still maintain this shit is way to dumb for a scum drazak.

--------------------------------------------------

Hapas case i think is one of the best i have ever seen and marvs refusal to give reads is just the confirmation in my eyes. Despite what he says he is just stalling for as much time as possible in hopes that something happens. I know bullshit when i see and and his request to wait for tomorrow is bullshit.

## Vote Marvelosity

I agree with hapa that i see know way in which marv flips town at this point. This comes as quite a shock to me and now im pretty confused as to what i thought was going on in this game. Im gonna go to bed and rethink everything in the morning.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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