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On October 21 2012 09:45 drazak wrote: So scum are wishywashy (if I unvoted you), but deciding to keep pressure on you is also scummy? You sir are trying to set a trap to catch a townie, not catch scum. Why would someone who in your own words is not scum be setting a trap for a townie? So now you are implying I am scum again? | ||
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On October 21 2012 09:39 drazak wrote: I don't think DP is scum, I did however want to get him to talk, I whine and whined and whined and cried over the last gsl game, as I fell it's got one of the best flavors, and I like instant majority/parity cop. If people don't talk, it's a pretty lame game. So you wanted to cause activity with your vote. That was 100% the motivation. But you decided to try and get the already active player (me) to be active rather than one of the several inactive players? On October 21 2012 09:39 drazak wrote: We also hadn't had a few people check in or discuss policy, so while hapa and I and IAMP seem to feel that voting causes discussion, I was a little nervous that the others might not feel that way. So now you are changing your story as to why you were nervous. First it was because you thought asking that question was scummy but you were to nervous to vote. Now it is because you were nervous about voting for pressure. On October 21 2012 09:39 drazak wrote: For now, I'm going to leave my vote on him, but if things change I'll likely change again to cause discussion. Need to read the thread more and not be playing CS:GO to decide who I want to stimulate So now you are leaving your vote on someone you just called town. In order to stimulate a discussion you have barely been a part of and to pressure the most active player by far into being more active? Also. you are voting for someone you called town | ||
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On October 21 2012 11:46 drazak wrote: I certainly didn't call you town, I said I didn't think you ARE mafia, I have a pretty neutral read on you, I think you got a little too defensive for a townie after your initial questioning was found as illogical. If you say I am not scum. That is caling me town. There are only two options. Now you are saying I am scum again. After you said I wasn't scum. Man you can;t keep your story straight. You said you were going to take some time to see whom you would pressure next. Got any one? or you just going to keep your vote on someone you don't think is scum? | ||
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On October 21 2012 12:14 Hapahauli wrote: ok I may or may not be sober now due to a certain college football rivalry game but w/e I don't think Drazzzz's vote is scummy - he's voting you to generate discussion, and townies are capable of doing weird stuff like that (for those of you who have played with kush, see his filter in all his games). Plus, it's not like he's voting DP and he thinks DP is town. Big difference. That is exactly what it is like. If you say you don't think someone is scum. You are saying they are town. He is voting for someone who he says is town. | ||
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On October 21 2012 13:09 Hapahauli wrote: Nah mafia can say stupid stuff as well. Kush said silly things as town and scum. YourHarry in his most recent scum game also spouted off some stupid things, and not just to satisfy his meta. Saying stupid things is a null-tell alone. Howwweva, looking at Draz's defenses to his "stupid" statements seem pretty townie. He instantly and calmly responds to accusations against him. There's no hint of hesitancy or over-defensiveness at all. Bleh. If you are reading him as town we are on completely different pages. Which townie in their right mind would keep a vote on someone they think is not scum? There is not rationalising that action with a townie mindset. | ||
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On October 21 2012 13:45 drazak wrote: There obviously is pressure on DP, he's been antsy about the vote ever since. He also thinks to think that it would fit scum motives to leave a vote on him? Haven't figured out how that works yet. You're all discussing things, and a lot of the discussion has its root cause in my vote on DP, so I'd say it's done a job well served. ##unvote DarthPunk As far as what I said, it was brought up several times that being flip-floppy or wishy-washy is something that new scum does. We're all trying to establish town cred right now, that's all of our goals, if I was to do anything wishy-washy or flip-floppy, would I be helping myself (As town, or mafia)? I don't think I would be, but I did generate a fair amount of conversation. Your vote wasn't pressuring me. It was pressuring you because it was stupid. Now you are unvoting me as soon as you are pressured. Again. | ||
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On October 21 2012 13:45 drazak wrote: There obviously is pressure on DP, he's been antsy about the vote ever since. He also thinks to think that it would fit scum motives to leave a vote on him? Haven't figured out how that works yet. You're all discussing things, and a lot of the discussion has its root cause in my vote on DP, so I'd say it's done a job well served. ##unvote DarthPunk As far as what I said, it was brought up several times that being flip-floppy or wishy-washy is something that new scum does. We're all trying to establish town cred right now, that's all of our goals, if I was to do anything wishy-washy or flip-floppy, would I be helping myself (As town, or mafia)? I don't think I would be, but I did generate a fair amount of conversation. Who views scum hunting in the terms 'establishing town cred'?!?! Obviously that is your motive. But it isn't mine. I want to find scum, because I am town. You want to 'establish town cred' because you are scum. | ||
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On October 21 2012 14:34 Keirathi wrote: Establishing yourself as town is at least as important as, if not more important than, good scum hunting. Yeah but that isn't your MOTIVE. That is just something that comes along with being proactive and scum hunting, or rather is a consequence of good scum hunting and cases. Do you honestly ever have a MOTIVE of being considered town as town? or do you not care because you are town and want to find scum. | ||
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If he didn't pick up his play later and actually contribute I would be more worried. But if I had to chose between lynching V7 and Keir it would be V7 in a heartbeat. | ||
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Keirs play this game is similar to his early Liquid City play. If his play doesn't improve as it did in that game I would take a closer look at him. If I had to pick between a Keir Lynch and a V7 lynch I would lynch V7. | ||
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On October 21 2012 22:46 Z-BosoN wrote: Haha, you don't say, eh DP? @marv I don't mean for you to comment on every single thing in the game. I wouldn't have cared if you talked about my idea or not, as it already clearly didn't stick. What I wanted is comments on the main things going through my head right now, so as to consolidate my views. I don't see why your first interpretation of what I said was that I wanted you "to comment on everything in the game". Seems odd and fairly defensive. What do you mean? You talking about last game? | ||
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On October 21 2012 23:12 marvellosity wrote: lol I'm confused o.o I was asking about the bit directed at me. If that is what you are confused about. | ||
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Austin attacking logic rather than motive than finding everyone who did the same suspicious ZB looking alot closer to his scum meta thatn his town meta. Not enough yet for a real push on any of them. But this is a strange game. | ||
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On October 21 2012 23:30 marvellosity wrote: Your vote on drazak is predicated on something I don't think is lynchable for though, DP. austin explained it well enough earlier. Really? I think voting for someone you think is town is a lynchable offense, The only reason that he is not getting lynched is that he is new and people are giving him the benefit of the doubt IMO. I think Drazak is scum. I am not sure Keir is. | ||
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On October 21 2012 23:35 marvellosity wrote: If you weren't to lynch drazak, who would your top suspect be? V7 | ||
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