EPTGSL Mini Mafia III - Page 11
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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+ Show Spoiler + On October 01 2012 10:25 Keirathi wrote: Kind of frustrating that we're halfway through D1 and half the people haven't even posted. Anyways, regarding Shady and KJ: He wants to troll to buy a free-ride through the game because he thinks that's automatically why those players make it to endgame. I don't buy that it was a gambit to get a mod to threaten trolling. That said, I'm hesitant to jump on the bandwagon because its so...easy. Which is ironic, because THATS the reason that people like BM and grush make it to endgame. Not because they troll, but because lynching them is the easy way out for scum when they are town. As far as KJ, I just want to say that I wasn't even getting defensive. I was legitimately trying to figure out his thinking, and explain myself. That he got defensive to my questions, and then decided on a wishy-washy stance rather than taking a firm opinion and trying to explain himself make me question his motives. Just throwing mud out for the sake of appearing like he was contributing? For now: ##Vote: kingjame01 | ||
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DarthPunk
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Z-BosoN
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atm I don't have any real suspect that I'd be willing to place my vote on. I'm leaning townie on Drazak and DarthPunk. Not too sure on Hapahauli, his play right now seems a bit passive compared to his usual self. Feels like he's using the same tell over and over again (i.e. posting something than disappearing) and being a little uncharacteristically calm with his pressuring. My top suspicions, nevertheless, are iamperfection, Keirathi and v7. I will not be placing my vote on v7 yet, at least until he has a chance to defend himself and make any sort of contribution. I feel his absence is not necessarily alignment-indicative, for now. @marv How has Keir not been receiving attention, I spent quite some time tunneling him. I'll point this out once again, which is something I'm finding important and would like to see your comment on. When I questioned him about his lack of follow-up, he mentioned his IRL excuses, which was already perfectly fair, but he felt the need to add this: On October 21 2012 01:47 Keirathi wrote: What? I made it perfectly clear what my opinion on it was. It was a bullshit post, and I called it that, and wanted him to explain. I was not, and am not, going to make any decisions about his alignment based on that. He at least provided a plausible explanation, even if it does feel a little "made up after-the-fact" because someone called him out on it. I don't think it makes him scummy, nor do I think it makes him town. What, exactly, is the point of saying "Yea, he's still neutral"? Which, to me, feels like an attempt of an additional excuse. Also, I find it interesting that you did not mention iamperfection, who's championed his first vote on DarthPunk and made no further comment on it, which I'm finding increasingly scummy - as Liquid City iamperfection was much more active and helpful. @Keirathi I will leave you alone for now, in regards to the above. Anyways, a question on the bolded part: On October 21 2012 13:28 Keirathi wrote: I don't really like Draz's explanation either. First, unvoting isn't being "wishy-washy", assuming you explain yourself. But hell, its not like you even unvoted, nor was DP calling you out FOR unvoting. He was calling you out for leaving your vote on someone who you ostensibly don't believe is scum. It's not a "trap", because he hasn't said anything about you unvoting being scummy to begin with. Voting for someone isn't inherently scummy, obviously, but leaving your vote on someone that you don't have a scum read on is certainly on the scummy side (although, I will admit, that I've seen townies do it too. That doesn't make the action itself less scummy, just that townies can, at times, play scummily). Second, putting pressure isn't scummy either. But, you're not actually putting pressure on him. You just parked a vote there and haven't done anything with it. THAT is scummy. What is the point of your vote right now? Does this mean you also have a scum read on iamperfection? He basically did the same thing, and went awol. | ||
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Z-BosoN
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marvellosity
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I don't really feel the need to comment on every player in the game. I commented on your vote plan but I didn't really have much else to say about you, Hapa is being Hapa, and iamperfection is being iamperfection; I agree that I'd like a bit more activity from him but that's something that can be looked at going forward. I'm not reading too too much into the DP interactions; besides he's unvoted DP now and is pursuing other avenues. | ||
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marvellosity
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Z-BosoN
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On October 21 2012 13:13 DarthPunk wrote: Also his defense each time is oh you must be scum and trying to trick me. Nothing townie about it. And your 'meta' read is bleh. Haha, you don't say, eh DP? @marv I don't mean for you to comment on every single thing in the game. I wouldn't have cared if you talked about my idea or not, as it already clearly didn't stick. What I wanted is comments on the main things going through my head right now, so as to consolidate my views. I don't see why your first interpretation of what I said was that I wanted you "to comment on everything in the game". Seems odd and fairly defensive. | ||
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marvellosity
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I didn't think that you wanted me to comment on everything on the game, I was explaining my PoV on having not commented on certain people/things. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On October 21 2012 22:46 Z-BosoN wrote: Haha, you don't say, eh DP? @marv I don't mean for you to comment on every single thing in the game. I wouldn't have cared if you talked about my idea or not, as it already clearly didn't stick. What I wanted is comments on the main things going through my head right now, so as to consolidate my views. I don't see why your first interpretation of what I said was that I wanted you "to comment on everything in the game". Seems odd and fairly defensive. What do you mean? You talking about last game? | ||
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marvellosity
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DarthPunk
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On October 21 2012 23:12 marvellosity wrote: lol I'm confused o.o I was asking about the bit directed at me. If that is what you are confused about. | ||
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iamperfection
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On October 21 2012 10:10 vaderseven wrote: I will post more tonight after work. Posting from atm and I read everything since I last posted.... not much going on go?nna have to examine things close tonight. guys guys guys me keen detective mind has picked up on something. Vaderseven said he would post after work and you look through the thread VERY closely you will notice that he in fact did not do that. I don't know what kind of job vader has but ill i know is i went to bed and he hadn't posted and he has still not posted after i have gotten up. Seriously though i think that saying your gonna do something and not doing it is one of the worst things you can do. Its a stalling tactic and i DEMAND vaderseven get in here and fast preferably . | ||
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DarthPunk
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marvellosity
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austin explained it well enough earlier. | ||
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iamperfection
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@Keirathi Keirathi what is my alignment? | ||
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DarthPunk
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Austin attacking logic rather than motive than finding everyone who did the same suspicious ZB looking alot closer to his scum meta thatn his town meta. Not enough yet for a real push on any of them. But this is a strange game. | ||
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marvellosity
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DarthPunk
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On October 21 2012 23:30 marvellosity wrote: Your vote on drazak is predicated on something I don't think is lynchable for though, DP. austin explained it well enough earlier. Really? I think voting for someone you think is town is a lynchable offense, The only reason that he is not getting lynched is that he is new and people are giving him the benefit of the doubt IMO. I think Drazak is scum. I am not sure Keir is. | ||
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