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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 21:14 GMT
#1221
@Rad

Also, be aware that Dandel claiming early, if he was scum, would mean a threat of a counter claim that would be much easier to sort out with more time. Scum would most likely wait if they were fake claiming
nackhtjogger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany105 Posts
October 29 2012 21:24 GMT
#1222
On October 30 2012 05:55 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 05:50 nackhtjogger wrote:
Hey, I'm not saying Djo isn't scum. But if he is he's fucking Keyzer Soze. I say we lynch Cheesecake the obv scum before we try to shoot the devil in the back


Why do you think he's such an amazing scum if he ends up being one? He's the main reason you have 61 pages to read over. Do you think he's really been that helpful to town so far? We constantly keep catching him with useless comments, wifom, bs. Hell he even admits that he feels he looks scum. I can't see a good reason not to lynch him right now.


Go ahead, I'm actually quite curious. But be weary of the fact that this guy had this to say pre-game:

Take a look at his pre-game post:

On October 19 2012 12:07 Djodref wrote:
Well, in fact, I have considered all the possible configurations and I think it is for the best

Djo town / Debears town

I'm gonna end up tunneling you for stupid WIFOM reasons

Djo town / Debears town

I'm getting lucky and I lynch you for stupid WIFOM reasons

Djo scum / Debears town

According to my town meta, I tunnel you for stupid WIFOM reasons

Djo scum / Debears scum

I attempt to bus you using stupid WIFOM reasons



Djo town / Debears town two times

Imo this and the post about rocco that I've lol-ed about makes him unslippable, or rather his slips are not to be taken seriously.

If he can fake being this clumsy guy who has the balls to purposefully talk so much with the specific intent of rendering the thread unreadable than I think he's a good mafia player with an imba tactic. He just happened to slip up too much this game.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 21:27 GMT
#1223
Nachkt, what is your read on Djo?

Your posts are confusing and conflicting as hell
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 29 2012 21:29 GMT
#1224
I'm confused too nackht. Can you clarify?

Djo obviously means "Djo town / Debears scum" for the second one. Everyone makes mistakes. I don't see what it tells us about anything.
nackhtjogger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany105 Posts
October 29 2012 21:32 GMT
#1225
On October 30 2012 06:27 debears wrote:
Nachkt, what is your read on Djo?

Your posts are confusing and conflicting as hell


I told you, he's a mystery to me, and should be to you too if you are town. Read my post about Cheese, the one that followed my vote.
I have some stuff to write before I go to bed so I'll be here but try to read my posts like it was the 10 commandments before asking me stuff.
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
October 29 2012 21:32 GMT
#1226
Ok, after thinking about it about the only thing I don't really agree with in your post is that his stance on kush is a townie trait. Sure it was controversial and I agree that's not something scum would want(draw attention to himself) but he really gave me the impression that he was intent on setting kush up as a lynch. In light of kush flipping green I just have a really hard time accepting that it's a townie thing to do.

That being said, if I accept that it was just him either wording things too strongly, or otherwise giving me the wrong impression then yea, I'd say Djod is scummier. In fact, I'd say the further along this day has gone the more Djod has been doing scummy things. I particularly agree with the idea that he jumped on my case as soon as I posted it as he didn't really seem all that concerned about Dandel before it. I just wasn't yet convinced that Dandel wasn't scum.

I guess I can probably post what I meant with regards to Cheese and Dandel vs Djod I mentioned earlier when I responded to Nackh. It was extremely weird to me how two people could draw such different conclusions about Djod. One of them was 95% sure Djod was scum, 5% SK(Cheese) while Dandel had pretty much the opposite opinion. It didn't make sense to me that if they had the same information, they would draw such different conclusions. For that reason I suspected that one of them was scum and one wasn't. With Dandel's claim actually looking quite believable, I'm beginning to question maybe I should have been more open about him and more suspicious of Cheese.

So, yea, here goes:
##Vote: Djodref

If Djod flips town, I swear I'm gonna break something.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 21:37 GMT
#1227
@Alsn

If Djo somehow flips town, idk........something went drastically wrong

I'll have to relook filters at Inig, Roco, Nackht, and CC

Safe to say, Djo - Inig should be scumteam with a Djo scum flip
nackhtjogger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany105 Posts
October 29 2012 21:38 GMT
#1228
On October 30 2012 06:29 Rad wrote:
I'm confused too nackht. Can you clarify?

Djo obviously means "Djo town / Debears scum" for the second one. Everyone makes mistakes. I don't see what it tells us about anything.


It tells us that he makes more mistakes. We have a clear example of him making a mistake pre-game, no pressure no anything. I'm saying you can't trust that he's going to express himself correctly and have reading/comprehending difficulties, which makes his supposed scumslips less incriminating. If anyone else would've said what he said I wouldn't have any doubts about him being scum.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 21:39 GMT
#1229
ebwop

And yours of course also Alsn
nackhtjogger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany105 Posts
October 29 2012 21:44 GMT
#1230
EBWOP: I'm saying you can't trust that he's going to express himself correctly and NOT have reading/comprehending difficulties, which makes his supposed scumslips less incriminating
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
October 29 2012 21:46 GMT
#1231
Vote Count!

If your vote is not properly formatted it will not be counted. Everyone is required to vote.


Djodref (4) - Dandel Ion, Mr Cheesecake, debears, Alsn
Dandel Ion (3) - Inigmaticalism, Djodref, Roco69, debears, Alsn
Mr. Cheesecake (1) nackhtjogger
nackhtjogger (0) - Djodref

Not Voting (1) - Rad

Currently, Djodref is set to be lynched! If you see that your vote is incorrect then pm me. You have about 2 hours 15 minutes left to vote! Deadline is at 00:00 GMT (+00:00)
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 29 2012 21:52 GMT
#1232
I'm curious at what Djo's vote will be now that dandel has claimed.

##Vote: Djodref
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 21:52 GMT
#1233
@Nackht

His scumslips aren't the big thing. The big thing is his behavior and actions. You should look in my filter and read the most recent case I posted on Djo
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
October 29 2012 21:54 GMT
#1234
Rad, that's pretty unfair. Djod said he went to bed and probably won't be back in time to make a compelling argument one way or the other. You can't really count on him answering you.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 29 2012 22:01 GMT
#1235
On October 30 2012 06:54 Alsn wrote:
Rad, that's pretty unfair. Djod said he went to bed and probably won't be back in time to make a compelling argument one way or the other. You can't really count on him answering you.


I was just noting I'm curious.

If you check the end of d1, he was back in time to discuss the lynch. In fact, he had gotten done catching up on the thread almost an hour and a half before lynch. It's not unreasonable to think he could be back in time.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 29 2012 22:03 GMT
#1236
EBWOP: This was something that also really pissed me off about his end of night timing considering how long he was awake before day 1 lynch.
nackhtjogger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany105 Posts
October 29 2012 22:05 GMT
#1237
Lookie here:

On October 25 2012 18:31 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 17:57 Roco69 wrote:
@djodref

To keep it simple, "lurker policy on D1" seems to be a well known and basic strategy so I will do the exact opposite,=>so I will never be suspected.


@Roco

I have more questions for you. Why do you want to never be suspected ?
Are you mafia ?


A quick recap:
Roco said that maybe, just maybe mafia would choose to talk a lot (probably seeing how much you talked about confidence - this might have been his way to tell you to stop it but didn't make it as clear ad Da0ud did). As in .. Being a lurker (he probably didn't mean to say policy at all.. he wanted to say being a lurker) seems to be a well known and basic strategy (for mafia) so I (since in this scenario he describes what mafia would do he takes the role of a mafia) will do the exact opposite,=>so I (again, assuming I am mafia for the sake of argument) will never be suspected.

Why am I so sure in my abilities of reconstructing what roco would have wanted to say?.. because you (i think debears) talked about how you got owned by lurkers + a nice friendly townie in the last game so it makes sense that he picked it up.

I don't know what Djo understood Roco said but it lead to a lot of confusion especially because Dan and sylver also kept referring to this without clarifying the misunderstanding.
nackhtjogger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany105 Posts
October 29 2012 22:06 GMT
#1238
On October 30 2012 06:52 debears wrote:
@Nackht

His scumslips aren't the big thing. The big thing is his behavior and actions. You should look in my filter and read the most recent case I posted on Djo


Will do, just not today i think
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
October 29 2012 22:06 GMT
#1239
On October 30 2012 07:03 Rad wrote:
EBWOP: This was something that also really pissed me off about his end of night timing considering how long he was awake before day 1 lynch.
Hm, I see your point. But isn't the lynch 1 hour earlier now? Or did summer time end yesterday without me noticing? :D
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 22:13 GMT
#1240
On October 30 2012 07:06 nackhtjogger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 06:52 debears wrote:
@Nackht

His scumslips aren't the big thing. The big thing is his behavior and actions. You should look in my filter and read the most recent case I posted on Djo


Will do, just not today i think


doesn't that defeat the purpose if he is set to be lynched in a couple of hours?
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