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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 05:12 GMT
#1101
The next part of Alsn's case



Looking at these scenarios, and I'm convinced they're the only ones possible, I find the last one to be extremely unlikely. While myself and others have at times at least questioned whether or not Djod was all that super scummy, no one that I know has ever diverted a hypothetical Djod lynch unless it was done very subtly. In fact, the only argument that I feel can be made that he is scum and other scum has diverted attention away from him is the lynches against Inig and da0ud. Kush(and admittedly to a lesser extent myself) were responsible for the latter, while the lynch against Inig was Djod himself in tandem with debears(and possibly someone else, I don't remember, please correct me here if I'm wrong). Lastly, Djod actually switched his vote from Inig to da0ud and was the last one to do so IIRC. To me, scum "securing" a lynch on a townie makes no sense whatsoever. The only ones at risk of actually vote switching near a lynch are actual scum, so protecting themselves against a switch is meaningless.

That to me leaves the first two options and in both of them Djod is not scum. Sure, he could be SK and his actions don't really dispute that but to be honest, I would rather have a possible SK(and I'm not convinced he is) left alone and actually try and lynch mafia. Mostly because an SK isn't that worrisome if we still have a pretty good town vs scum majority.

For that reason, I looked at the possibilities left. Either scum is keeping really quiet and all of us accusing Djod are town, or scum are in fact trying to get Djod lynched. I find the latter more likely, although unfortunately I don't really have a good explanation for why I think that is, it's basically just a hunch, although not an insignificant one.



He WIFOMS what scum would do since he thinks you're town.

WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 05:13 GMT
#1102
On October 29 2012 14:10 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 14:08 debears wrote:
@Djo

How often has Inig been around to actually answer some fucking questions??? He just plops in with his thought out, big posts and leaves.


Well, this would have been a better reason for dandel to go after Inig rather than to vote me for being the SK.


Really? Because I haven't been super hard pressing Inig after yesterday.
Why? Because nothing has changed on him. He's doing the same shit, being his usual lurky self
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 05:13 GMT
#1103
ebwop

Why don't you find me scummy then??? Since I'm pressing you and not Inig
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 29 2012 05:14 GMT
#1104
On October 29 2012 14:10 Rad wrote:
@djo

Dandel had a lot of time to think about it, and one of his main points about you was how quickly you pointed out the sylver quote. That didn't exist at the time he posted his msg before end of night.


@ Rad

It didn't change the fact that he still voted for me for being a SK rather than Ini for being a scum.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 29 2012 05:16 GMT
#1105
On October 29 2012 14:13 debears wrote:
ebwop

Why don't you find me scummy then??? Since I'm pressing you and not Inig


@ debears

You have posted a second case about me so I think I became your top scumread at that point.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 29 2012 05:19 GMT
#1106
Anyway, I recommend you to take a break and to remove your biased confirmation goggles. You are jumping at every post I make right now and it is quite tiresome.
I think I deserved for what I did to you in my first newbie
That and because I suck as town I would say...
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 29 2012 05:22 GMT
#1107
On October 29 2012 14:14 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 14:10 Rad wrote:
@djo

Dandel had a lot of time to think about it, and one of his main points about you was how quickly you pointed out the sylver quote. That didn't exist at the time he posted his msg before end of night.


@ Rad

It didn't change the fact that he still voted for me for being a SK rather than Ini for being a scum.


He didn't make the "I'm voting for SK" argument minutes before lynch and then let his vote ride into a lynch. He made it after a double NK where I hadn't claimed vigi yet. He had well over a full day left to change it up. At the very least it was a pressure move and I think a good one. It's not like everyone was going to read his case and go "yep let's kill the SK!" and no one talk until lynch. It has helped town a lot because it's gotten a variety of opinions since.

Let me rephrase.

His vote and reasoning is not important because it hasn't done anything yet. It's just there, making you anxious and causing discussion.

If he votes inig, what happens?

Inig posts once, maybe twice, goes afk.

What do you do? You talk a loooootttt. That creates something for us to discuss. Furthermore, his points were interesting and valid.

What new can he post about inig? Nothing at that point.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 29 2012 05:25 GMT
#1108
On October 29 2012 14:13 debears wrote:
ebwop

Why don't you find me scummy then??? Since I'm pressing you and not Inig


@ debears

This post is so unfair. You know I have a town read on you since the beginning of the game.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 05:25 GMT
#1109
On October 29 2012 14:16 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 14:13 debears wrote:
ebwop

Why don't you find me scummy then??? Since I'm pressing you and not Inig


@ debears

You have posted a second case about me so I think I became your top scumread at that point.


That case didn't happen until well into day 2. I still didn't press Inig after the lynch because the damn guy is inactive so talking to him is like trying to start a car without an engine.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
October 29 2012 05:26 GMT
#1110
Alright I'm going to bed.

Djo, I'll look over you one more time tomorrow.
Roco69
Profile Joined October 2012
Burkina Faso5 Posts
October 29 2012 05:32 GMT
#1111
I am back from the moon. sorry i got high last week end
I do not want to see djodref kill even if it is against my logic of killing the one who talk the more !!!

##Vote Dandel Ion
tout n est que Ombre et poussiere
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 29 2012 05:35 GMT
#1112
On October 29 2012 14:22 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 14:14 Djodref wrote:
On October 29 2012 14:10 Rad wrote:
@djo

Dandel had a lot of time to think about it, and one of his main points about you was how quickly you pointed out the sylver quote. That didn't exist at the time he posted his msg before end of night.


@ Rad

It didn't change the fact that he still voted for me for being a SK rather than Ini for being a scum.


He didn't make the "I'm voting for SK" argument minutes before lynch and then let his vote ride into a lynch. He made it after a double NK where I hadn't claimed vigi yet. He had well over a full day left to change it up. At the very least it was a pressure move and I think a good one. It's not like everyone was going to read his case and go "yep let's kill the SK!" and no one talk until lynch. It has helped town a lot because it's gotten a variety of opinions since.

Let me rephrase.

His vote and reasoning is not important because it hasn't done anything yet. It's just there, making you anxious and causing discussion.

If he votes inig, what happens?

Inig posts once, maybe twice, goes afk.

What do you do? You talk a loooootttt. That creates something for us to discuss. Furthermore, his points were interesting and valid.

What new can he post about inig? Nothing at that point.


@ Rad

True enough, pressuring me made me talk a lot.
But I think he forgot about Inig and wanted to lynch me instead.

Remember that not wanting to lynch scum is a big scum-tell.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 29 2012 05:36 GMT
#1113
Roco's back...

/facepalm

Isn't he just straight up mod replaced and/or modkilled at night now? Or, how will this work since he missed last vote...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 29 2012 05:38 GMT
#1114
On October 29 2012 14:32 Roco69 wrote:
I am back from the moon. sorry i got high last week end
I do not want to see djodref kill even if it is against my logic of killing the one who talk the more !!!

##Vote Dandel Ion


@ Roco

You better post a lot and give better reasons for voting for dandel. Everyone is going to kill you for this kind of thing...
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 29 2012 05:38 GMT
#1115
On October 29 2012 14:35 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 14:22 Rad wrote:
On October 29 2012 14:14 Djodref wrote:
On October 29 2012 14:10 Rad wrote:
@djo

Dandel had a lot of time to think about it, and one of his main points about you was how quickly you pointed out the sylver quote. That didn't exist at the time he posted his msg before end of night.


@ Rad

It didn't change the fact that he still voted for me for being a SK rather than Ini for being a scum.


He didn't make the "I'm voting for SK" argument minutes before lynch and then let his vote ride into a lynch. He made it after a double NK where I hadn't claimed vigi yet. He had well over a full day left to change it up. At the very least it was a pressure move and I think a good one. It's not like everyone was going to read his case and go "yep let's kill the SK!" and no one talk until lynch. It has helped town a lot because it's gotten a variety of opinions since.

Let me rephrase.

His vote and reasoning is not important because it hasn't done anything yet. It's just there, making you anxious and causing discussion.

If he votes inig, what happens?

Inig posts once, maybe twice, goes afk.

What do you do? You talk a loooootttt. That creates something for us to discuss. Furthermore, his points were interesting and valid.

What new can he post about inig? Nothing at that point.


@ Rad

True enough, pressuring me made me talk a lot.
But I think he forgot about Inig and wanted to lynch me instead.

Remember that not wanting to lynch scum is a big scum-tell.


You think dandel "forgot about about inig"? Come on djo...
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 29 2012 05:41 GMT
#1116
The only reason he wasn't modkilled was because he was due to be replaced. If he didn't vote on D1 then he shouldn't be around for d2.

And surprisingly Roco doesn't want to lynch Djo... Why not? Something smells super scummy about this entire situation. A lurker being scumbuddies with Djo just makes too much sense right now, especially with him returning the second he has the possibility of being lynched.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 29 2012 05:41 GMT
#1117
@ Rad

Check this out.

On October 28 2012 23:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
What has Djo done for town?
What has Cheesecake done?
What has Rad done?
What has debears done?

Is nacktjogger even in this game? I can't tell. What about Roco?


On October 28 2012 23:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh Inig is also still alive. How could I forget this beacon of towniness?


He did mention him once while SK tunneling me.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 29 2012 05:41 GMT
#1118
EBWOP: "forgot about inig"

funny before i posted that it was something like "forabout inig?" and then I "fixed" it
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 29 2012 05:43 GMT
#1119
On October 29 2012 14:41 Djodref wrote:
@ Rad

Check this out.

Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 23:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
What has Djo done for town?
What has Cheesecake done?
What has Rad done?
What has debears done?

Is nacktjogger even in this game? I can't tell. What about Roco?


Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 23:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh Inig is also still alive. How could I forget this beacon of towniness?


He did mention him once while SK tunneling me.


I read that as just more sarcasm based on him not including inig in the "what has X done" post.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
October 29 2012 05:44 GMT
#1120
On October 29 2012 14:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The only reason he wasn't modkilled was because he was due to be replaced. If he didn't vote on D1 then he shouldn't be around for d2.

And surprisingly Roco doesn't want to lynch Djo... Why not? Something smells super scummy about this entire situation. A lurker being scumbuddies with Djo just makes too much sense right now, especially with him returning the second he has the possibility of being lynched.


@ Cheese

I know, this looks super bad. Even myself I don't understand how I can be town in this fucking game...
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