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[image blocked] Long time no see Jackal. Even if you're going to foolishly tunnel me like the cowboy, it will be good playing with you. | ||
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On December 29 2012 10:15 Promethelax wrote: If I get to replace in (which, lets be real here, I will) I will tunnel everyone. Just to make you all comfortable. Isn't that a contradiction of terms? :/ I'm lynching you based on this alone if you replace in. | ||
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Because I'll have more time for the game in the next few days than I will after the first of the year...not that I'll be inactive if it doesn't start until later, I just won't be dedicating like...chunks of my day to it like I could if it started today. | ||
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On December 30 2012 13:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I wont be home at all really on the 31st or 1st Oh you...you weren't gonna post D1 any ol' way. <3 | ||
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Bugs you're only slightly less of a treasure than Toad. | ||
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Prove it: who is scum? | ||
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This is the kind of policy I can get behind. | ||
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On January 03 2013 08:13 iamperfection wrote: your point is stupid anyways. I actually think early on the scum are more likely to read the posts very carefully only later on do they slip up and not read as much. I like dis guy. | ||
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On January 03 2013 08:21 Palmar wrote: you wouldn't know logic if it hit you in the face. YOU'RE A LOGIC!!! | ||
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I think he was implying that you "already know that he's town" or something equally laughable. | ||
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Really marv? | ||
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Sorry Toad, I think you're a swell player and all, but you do say stupid things most of the time. | ||
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I'm so glad you caught that too. LOL Toad your whole filter has been in response to bullshit about Tunkeg and pushing this WBG policy lynch. Do you think anyone looks scummy so far? Do you have any kind of thoughts about anything in the game other than "I don't like WBG, I think we should kill him regardless of alignment"? I find it interesting that you want to hear Palmar's thoughts, considering he's pushing this same policy as you - his thoughts are, of course, "let's kill WBG" as he's stated multiple times. Are you reading the thread? What are YOUR thoughts? | ||
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On January 03 2013 10:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: HOLY FUCK THIS THREAD EXPLODED. Like seriously it went from 420 to 620 in three and a half hours. I am going to say that Tunkeg is bluntly pompous like this as a townie. I've played with him and against him and all his townie games are pretty much going along with the all bark, no bite line-of-thought. While I have no evidence to the contrary I will agree that he is a townie. Just a pompous one. Until then, I will do the only logical thing within my power to do. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel *sigh* | ||
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On January 03 2013 10:51 supersoft wrote: Of course did this discussion move the thread forward... Palmar does this all the time to start a discussion. Every time people step up and accuse him for that. It's just an icebreaker. Palmar knows that a wbg lynch isnt going to happen. Especially if he pushes him 20minutes after the game has started. I am thinking of a game where palmar claimed dayvig and aimed at people to get the game going. No idea what game that was... Ah yeah and he was town... and i explained the exact same thing... Having a deja vu right now... It was XVIII...the one with the Hitler movie too. Any thoughts on anyone or anything other than this thing that Palmar does every game regardless of alignment? | ||
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I just woke up my wife giggling in bed. You are amazing. | ||
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On January 03 2013 18:35 Palmar wrote: The Tunkeg wagon is awful. My thoughts. It takes damned skilled scum to face off the entire thread and Tunkeg not that crafty (no offense intended) Its a bad lynch. Not sure who I'd lynch at the moment. I've a handful of townreads and intend to narrow as the day wears on. | ||
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However, he warned us of "Cheesecake Spam" pregame and his like 4 posts yesterday left me hungering for those sweet sweet fakemeats. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mr.Cheesecake Considering the alternative is Tunkeg and I'm not getting scummy vibes off him, I'm willing to see where this goes. BC I saw your post on him - based on what you've seen from the guy in the thread, can you honestly say you would be surprised if he flipped town after doing what you saw him do? | ||
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On January 04 2013 02:09 yamato77 wrote: What is this supposed to be? Some kind of half-baked scum list? Half-baked because only half of you are on it? ^^ | ||
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On January 04 2013 06:49 Foolishness wrote: ##Vote: Toadesstern AWWWW YEEAAAAAHHHH Rally? Don'txtoy with my emotions Foolish, because I'll totally vote for Toad right now. | ||
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I have my reasons marv, just because I haventexpressed them in thread. But you know, continue to just jump my shit for any little thing. It's amusing and shows me you're at least thinking about me. <3 | ||
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On January 04 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote: what's with everyone deciding not to tell people things this game? It's really easy to say you have your reasons, but so far you're just hopping around agreeing with this person or the next. I don't know about that first part...but for my own part, it was a little thing at the beginning of the game that marked him as red for me that he has done nothing but exacerbate. The whole "Batman Palmar" thing. Why? Palmar wasn't even scum in that game, but he's using it as evidence against Palmar? I've gone on tirades against Palmar for less...but Toad is going so far as to attempt to corroborate it with people who played that game too and shit. They're not even the same thing, and unless he's accusing Palmar of being a third party it's totally irrelevant. He doesn't feel like he's trying to figure shit out, he feels like he's trying to appear active by tunneling Palmar. ##Unvote ##Vote: Toadesstern | ||
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Please don't call me an idiot again. I've already said everything I've said in this post in my PREVIOUS post on the matter. I won't repeat myself again. | ||
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I used to think like you're thinking right now. And I SHOT BC IN THE FACE for it. He was town. I was an idiot. I can assure you none of the vets are "being lazy" unless they're scum. They're reading the thread and coming to conclusions, rather than spouting off at the mouth at every fucking post. There's a reason you get lynched every game Tunkeg, and it has nothing to do with "idiot towns sheeping idiot vets". It has everything to do with your moronic idea that being a douchebag to everyone is the way to get them to listen to you. I got news for you friend, that's not how it works around here. People listen to the vets because they have, at some point, proven that they know what they're talking about. Have you? Then how about you worry about how YOU play rather than calling vets "lazy" and "bad for town" just because they're not calling people idiots three times on every fucking page? | ||
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On January 04 2013 07:58 Tunkeg wrote: LOL, I don't get lynched every game, get your facts straight, I have gotten lycnhed twice in mafia, thats it. Also are you implying that the rest of us isn't reading the thread, which is wrong. The difference is that we are required to post reasons behind our votes, why the fuck should not the "good" players be required to do so? Yes, I think Foolishness is being incredible lazy for just posting two posts thus far, and only throws down a vote on Toad without any reasons. Yes, I think Palmar plays incredible wierd and stupid this game, if he is town it is just unnecessary. If you want to worship them, then be my guest, I won't, I want them to earn it every fucking game they play, just like Palmar did in our last game. LOL worship Palmar. Can someone set this dude straight so I can get back to work? | ||
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On January 04 2013 08:07 iamperfection wrote: also VE come back to the wagon of justice you want someone that appears to only want to appear to be active look at cheesecake. Litteraly has done zero scum hunting asks stupid questions and does zero explaining of what soemone does is mafia motivated. He is a very good lynch. You don't get to insult me, ignore my posts, call me scummy, and then try and appeal to me for my vote. Keep railing on Foolish, maybe he's not around to bite back. | ||
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On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote: foolishness has more posts in the game he is not in that he accidentally posted in then he does this game. tells me all i need to know about his commitment to this town so far. Also i dont see how my recent actions should effect your thoughts on me or cc. did i hurt your feelings VE? to bad Toad has been active and is not the best lynch for today. Foolish has nothing to do with my vote, so I don't know why you keep mentioning him. Is activity the metric you're using? Because there are several people who have posted less than CC. I don't dislike the CC wagon, obviously because I was just on it. But I like a Toad lynch better today. Get over it. We're nowhere near consolidation time, so come talk to me about "the best lynch for today" later. | ||
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On January 04 2013 08:28 debears wrote: BC do you not see why he does what he does? To be unreadable regardless of the alignment he draws every game. There's nothing noble about it, dibbybaby, and you should get that through your head. | ||
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Palmar - /facepalm supersoft - started out strong, puttered out. MZ - Clearly not even trying. Null. BC - ....hold me. Marv - I'm sensing disappointment. Usually means scum. VE - Townie town towningtons. Toad - Is scum. Kill it. | ||
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On January 04 2013 10:12 marvellosity wrote: Actually you're right for the first, but it's not quite what you think, and I don't mind explaining it a little. I was quite looking forward to this game because I felt there was a pretty decent chance I was going to be able to play town with at least 1 of Palmar or Foolishness. I've played with Fool twice only and he rolled scum, unfortunately, in both. Palmar I've played with a bunch of times, but so far always with the opposite alignment. Then after that Palmar has basically trolled most of the game (at least, playing nothing like his last few town games where I was either hosting or scum) and Foolishness is doing even worse than this. So yes, I've been disappointed with the game so far. ....are you coming onto me? | ||
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On January 04 2013 10:10 wherebugsgo wrote: Palmar = troll probably means some kind of scum On December 13 2012 08:07 Palmar wrote: Bugs is scum. Bugs is scum. Bugs is scum. Bugs is scum. Bugs is scum. Bugs is scum. Bugs is scum.
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On January 04 2013 10:24 Toadesstern wrote: I'm town, which means you got a read right, which means you've got information you shouldn't have Wait wait...you're backing out now? | ||
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On January 04 2013 11:07 Toadesstern wrote: Actually I am very well aware of that. The plan is to see what happens within the next, let's say 14 hours with Palmar. I'd generally agree with Marv's (and WBG's) assessment on Palmar if it was d2. On the first half of d1 it sure is a bad idea to lynch him, not to vote him though. Yeah I know, we can't lynch him right now, but you get what I'm trying to say, right? I do feel you about Marv though. It's actualy pretty funny that VE made a case about me saying I don't comment on anything and just tunnel the shit out of palmar when it's actually Marv who's been after Palmar all day long, whereas I've been putting on a gonzaw-show lately, calling everyone and their dog weird. Probably should focus a little more Again, I consider what Marv posted something decent and it is something that's worrying me as well, but I do think it's to early for that right now. He does know that Palmar didn't say shit in YANMM early on as well and joined the party rather late to tell people to lynch Wiggles. Yeah we was less trollish but given what happened that game I really think Palmar thinks the same way as I do about just having fun once in a while instead of having to deal with people like WBG. OH MY GOD CAN WE PLEASE KILL IT?! | ||
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I'm gonna reread the whole fuggin thing. Be back in like...a while. | ||
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On January 04 2013 11:27 wherebugsgo wrote: I am guessing that when Palmar gets close to being lynched he'll claim mason with iamp. too bad masons aren't confirmed town in this game Yeah that's the conclusion I came to as well. GOSH YOU MUST BE ALL DOPED UP IF WE'RE THINKING THE SAME THINGS BUGS! | ||
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I thought I was really clever for figuring that out... | ||
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There are whispers about campus surrounding your most recent work, "The Case of the Ages". I fear most will not take it seriously considering the fact that most Dark Lords, especially newly ascended Lords, prefer to manipulate others from the background rather than openly do battle with them in full sight of innocents...especially here in one of Liquidia's most prestigious Academies among some of its top students. I write this in haste, as I fear the real Lords of Darkness have already read your essay and are conspiring to bring you into their fold - a place where even the mighty Chezinu can't save you. Consider also before turning in further works that many a frustrated student have been expelled out of fear due to their attitude regarding their grades in previous classes. This is a challenging Academy to excel at and many students have a hard time adjusting to the rigorous schedule and demands placed upon them by the Administration. Signed VisceraEyes the Purple (:OOOOOO NEW HOUSE) | ||
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I'm reading through some filters, since clearly no one is interested in Toadesstern for whatever reason. | ||
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And because I should be pretty obviously town to you, and because my sheeping shouldn't come as a surprise to ANYONE REGARDLESS of my alignment, least of all you, I wish you luck with the mob. I won't be adding my vote to the tally just yet, that's the extent of my effort in your defense. | ||
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On January 05 2013 02:48 marvellosity wrote: you know I have great difficulty reading you. Don't make me quote the PMs we had after Paranoia where you asked me if I was grasping your play and I said "not really". You feigned insecurity about me as scum with me last game in Hero. And I have no clue why your push on Toad has to be townie either. I have copies of those PMs as well, why would you need to quote anything? To prove to town that we had a conversation? What does that accomplish? I'm not even accusing you of anything... :/ Anyway, it doesn't matter. What matters is that I feel like I've been townie enough that townMarv would have a town read on me, and you don't...so you're either not town, or I'm wrong. In either case, it doesn't matter because I'm not voting for you. So what's the problem? | ||
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Like...let's suppose for a moment that BC thinks Palmar is scum. Palmar has built this huge wagon on marvelosity right? Does BC think marv is scum? Does he think he's town? If he thinks marv is scum, why would he attack the leader of the marv wagon? If he thinks marv is town, why isn't he pushing Palmar harder? He's got to see that this town isn't going to respond to one post, whether good and well thought out or not. Is he really trying to get Palmar lynched? Does anyone see evidence of this outside his one voting post? BC also has the prestigious honor of having lurked most of the day, popping in to comment a couple of times and then vanishing. I think I like a BC lynch more than I like a marvelosity lynch. | ||
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Like, I get it, you don't know if he's scum or town...but doesn't it follow logically that anti-town = scum? Like, even if his posts and reads left you in doubt, would not his general play (according to you, poisonously anti-town) push him over into the scum column? | ||
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On January 05 2013 04:06 marvellosity wrote: what drugs are you on? My first day back at work and I spend 100+ posts trying to stave off this stupid lynch. YOU KNOW DAMN WELL WHAT DRUGS I'M ON BISH At any rate, I've ended up trying to derail your lynch anyway, so you're welcome I guess. | ||
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On January 05 2013 04:19 wherebugsgo wrote: he's antitown as both alignments, and frequently people are antitown as town. Like, for example, you. Ugh..remind me why I like you again...I keep forgetting. | ||
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On January 05 2013 05:45 Palmar wrote: Well whatever I'm not around for a while now, iamp is not responding on IRC anyway. Seeing as the only possible counterwagon to marv at this point is BC I'm perfectly fine with whatever happening. We're lynching BC tomorrow anyway. You're a fucking dick. Love, VisceraEyes | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Hey guys just looking the thread over and realizing you guys are still being spectacular arttards. For anyone who thinks Palmar is still legit you guys need your heads examined. For those who think my lack of play is scumlike, please look at my first post after /in in the game. If you still opt to try and kill me go for it, however the fact is towns always F up when you lynch town bc day one. To each their own. I will be busy until sometime late tommorrow most likely if im still alive I will catch up then. This post is useless, it's the second time he's referred to this "evidence" that lack of play is indicative of his alignment. Why not try and point out how what few posts he has had time to come in and make have displayed that he gives a shit about town? Hint: it's because he doesn't. BC generally makes it clear that he cares, whether through stuffing posts full of content if pressed for time or getting over the top angry at town for lynching him. This blah BC is making my stomach turn. ##Unvote ##Vote: BC | ||
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On January 05 2013 06:42 Palmar wrote: This is a desperation claim, not to mention according to Ace logic that is always perfect, you should always lynch day 1 roleclaimers. Don't unvote marv, kill that scummy bastard Summarize your case against marv. Explain as you would to a child. | ||
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I say we lynch Foolishness next. Who down? | ||
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On January 05 2013 08:04 wherebugsgo wrote: I already think Meapak is scum, I don't need to be convinced. Then how is my agreeing that he can die opportunism? In fact, what was the point of that post anyway? Was it specifically and exclusively to piss me off? | ||
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There's a HUGE list of people I wouldn't have lynched yesterday. You're just making shit up to make me look scummy now. Yes, I've been free with my vote. But no, I am not willing to lynch just anyone. | ||
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MINDLESS?! No, not mindless. But whatever, you've been tunneling me all game. That's a good skill to have. | ||
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Marv's explanation appeased me. Palmar's logs appeased me. I wasn't willing to lynch them anymore. :OOOOOOOOOOOO | ||
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It was to Vivax, have you read that dude's filter? | ||
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On January 05 2013 08:21 Toadesstern wrote: yeah and you were willing to lynch me becaue foolish voted me although it had nothing to do with foolish's vote I'm still willing to lynch you Toad. STILL, not past tense. | ||
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On January 05 2013 08:21 Vivax wrote: I would have gladly lynched him. Maybe you can call that tunneling. This. It felt worse than it was apparently. | ||
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On January 05 2013 09:09 Toadesstern wrote: VE is problematic and plays somewhat anti-town no matter of alignment. Palmar once said that VE is one of the strongest mafia-aligned-forces no matter of alignment, resulting in town being at a disadvantage no matter what. That was before he started playing better. Nevertheless he's VERY eratic. He's either good or completly moronic. Pretty much nothing inbetween, which makes it hard to judge him. I've got a history with him because he'll probably tell you that I consider him scummy every game I play with him, no matter of our alignments, even if we're both mafia :3 So basicly you won't find a game of VE in which he's not strange, not a single one. The question is wether that strange is something bad strange. ....Processing....Processing....Translation Complete. On January 05 2013 09:09 Toadesstern wrote: My scumteam hasn't told me if we're targeting him for a mislynch tomorrow yet, so I have no alignment-related information to provide you with at this time. Nevertheless, because he has been targeting me I feel obligated to answer in some fashion. So basically, this post is useless and only serves to make it look like I'm being a helpful townie by answering a question, regardless of the fact that I provided absolutely no insight and came to no conclusions. | ||
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On January 05 2013 09:47 Keirathi wrote: Let me translate: "Hi guys. Don't protect marv/Palmar/Bugs because I plan on shooting them. Protect those other vets who aren't doing anything just because they are vets!" Hey, I thought I was the scumToad translator! | ||
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On January 05 2013 10:24 marvellosity wrote: make sure you read my case on him, babycakes Are you afraid he'll come to a different conclusion otherwise? | ||
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Also myself Bugs and marv would be fucking OP Hi guys, I'm awake. If marv really quit....someone pays with their life. | ||
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This approximately where I'm sitting. If any of the first three are alive tomorrow, they get lynch priority. Foolishness and MZ are obvious - they have been sitting back letting town rip itself apart all game long. MZ has made at least an effort of looking like he cares, but he doesn't. Ask him about his Tunkeg read. He hasn't even made mention of the guy since he promised us more content and came back with "I'd lynch Tunkeg"...never explains why he wanted him to die, and never explains what has changed his read. Now he's certain of Palmar being town...in spite of him flipping and flopping about Palmar all day long, and in spite of Palmar being wholly and completely wrong about marv. Sentinel's defense post is laughable - I fucking HATE when people use their own meta as a defense, because that shows that he took time out to go find posts in his own defense when he could have spent that time looking for scum. He says it himself, he only had 1 vote, so why would his pre-dawn post be a defense? Is he not scared of dying? Doesn't he want town to know his reads before he dies? No, he's not scared of dying. He's posturing for tomorrow. Toad has repeatedly shown that he doesn't care about finding scum. Tunkeg I was giving a pass, but him disappearing after being under scrutiny does not fall in line with how I think a townTunkeg plays. As we've all seen, he loves calling people stupid, and if he was town, he'd be in here relishing in being suspected by players so he can call them stupid later. Lynch it. | ||
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They must be obvious then...they must have put them on people they expected to get shot, as the bombs don't activate with lynch it looks like. | ||
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On January 06 2013 07:06 Hopeless1der wrote: 1KP: Day Vigilante (Need to pick a member to get the role during the day during the night. Then he pms the host and kill is executed as fast as host sees it.) No where there does it say you must post in thread. Certainly plausible, and also completely fucking imbalanced because it evades all night actions I think. Oh....my.....God......... | ||
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On January 06 2013 07:19 Keirathi wrote: This looks awfully strange, in hindsight. I totally misunderstood how the DayVig mechanic works. Now that I understand it, it doesn't make sense for scum to do anything BUT DayVig. X( | ||
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On January 06 2013 07:38 Keirathi wrote: If we play the hypothetical game, and assume you are scum, how does that even matter? You helped to push the lynch off of one townie onto another. Hypothetically, what would I have to gain by doing that? The statement I just made: that's it. But at what cost? Unnecessary attention, lynching a townie...it's not worth it. | ||
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With no flips, YOUR SHOT comes off as looking scummier than my assertion Kei. Why did you shoot tube over MZ? I mean, you say you almost shot me and invoked Marv's name as reasoning...but marv was hard pushing MZ right up to the point he left. | ||
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On January 06 2013 07:47 Keirathi wrote: Yes. MZ will probably be lynched soon. If not today, then tomorrow. I'm willing to give Foolishness some BOTD for now, because I believe he can be helpful later if he actually is town (and apparnetly its his meta to troll/lurk day 1 as town, then start contributing...taking other people's word on that). You, I have no idea how to read you later in the game. You are all over the place, and very little you do actually makes sense from either alignment. I really only ended up shooting tube over you because he wasn't participating at all. At least you're here. You say this, but here you are questioning ME like you want to lynch ME today...which means that you weren't REALLY thinking about MZ as a lynch today at all. | ||
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##Vote: VisceraEyes What Kei? Couldn't hear you over the sound of me playing against my win condition. | ||
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Because you're saying I'm more suspicious than people who have NOTHING in this thread Because so many people aren't even posting that this game is not only impossible, but not fun to boot. | ||
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I don't need your vote to die. I'll just suspiciously disappear. | ||
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I very seriously doubt this. | ||
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On January 06 2013 08:15 Keirathi wrote: Being angry doesn't make you scum, sweetie. Nor does voting for yourself. Neither of these were what I was referring to. I was referring to putting on a show of voting for myself (as I never did it in the voting thread) and appealing to emotion (by grossly exaggerating the number of people who are regularly dicks to me - Palmar and Bugs hold that honor pretty much exclusively). The anger and lack of will to play are very real though. I'll see if this changes after taking a step back, but I'm not hopeful. 4 or 5 people have checked in after the Day post. People don't fucking care about this game anymore. | ||
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On January 07 2013 06:05 Foolishness wrote: Does anyone remember that Promethelax is in this game? I did after I posted that Tunkeg is probably scum after everything. XD I'm back and reading. | ||
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"25. Tunkeg replaced by Promethelax" I forgot that Prom replaced in for Tunk when I posted my predawn reads post. | ||
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On January 07 2013 06:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Well with 5 they can only dayvig twice and then have to kill or else buy two 0.5 roles at the cost of a dayvig. I could live with that. What? KP is still 3 with 5 scum...meaning they can dayvig twice, buy a .5 and NK the same way (we're assuming) they did last night. Being down one means nothing in terms of what they can do...it's not until they're down two that they're impeded in any way. | ||
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Yeah MZ claim is funny. I can't imagine why a town Mason MZ would wait until night to mason someone (which is what I'm assuming happened based on his "Hey maybe I'll mason YOU next night cycle", especially if he has multiple uses (again, based on him saying he'll mason someone else later.) Like, obviously he's free to play whatever role he has however he wishes, but for my part I have a hard time believing that he would have waited until night with multiple uses. So yeah, I don't believe he's a town mason if he's actually masoned with someone. DayVig Speed The idea that the speed of the DayVig has ANYTHING to do with Bugs' reads is not likely in my opinion. I'm guessing scum just planned to take out claimers with the Vig shots. They're guaranteed to hit blues that way (assuming town blue claims aren't fake). Moving Forward We all need to be more active. I'm as guilty of being inactive as anyone, and I hope to fix mine over the course of the next couple of days. Scum are literally getting a free ride. I suggest that we ignore Chezinu for the time being - when he has something useful to say, he can say it in plain words or not say it at all as far as I'm concerned. Town is in a bad way and I prefer we're all on the same page. Today's Lynch Is Jackal. I don't remember who suggested otherwise (maybe Hopeless? Clarity?) but we should take out Jackal ASAPly. Just throwin that out there - delaying him accomplishes nothing. PEdit: I haven't read it Djo...gonna do so and get back with you. | ||
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Honestly, there's not much there. First of all, the whole "KP are rounded up" thing is IN the OP. I don't understand what extra information you're saying Hiro has to have to make that correction, but the KP formula is in the OP so that whole point doesn't make sense to me. The froggy thing is also strange, but mostly because I had a similar thought process. At the time, I was about sure Tunkeg was town based on the vehemence of his posting and general unpleasantness...angry townies lynch people, so if Tunkeg were scum I'd think he'd be more afraid of posting like a jerkwad. Anyone tunneling Tunkeg D1 was pretty suspicious to me for this reason...so it's not unreasonable to me that Hiro saying that someone coming out of a Tunkeg tunnel gets townpoints. The point about him discrediting one townie while lynching another is a good point though. This and him blending in are the points I agree with in your case. | ||
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Can I assume that you think this activity tell makes Cheesecake a stronger candidate than MZ? From my perspective they both give equal (read: zero) shits about helping town. What do you think about MZ? | ||
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On January 08 2013 02:18 Palmar wrote: hey I'm terrible this game, why aren't you carrying it? Hey I thought you were ignoring me. I liked that better. | ||
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On January 08 2013 02:24 Promethelax wrote: It is disgusting that I can't get a town read on you for agreeing with 95% of my reads Palmar. Why you gotta be so good? VE: Dibbers. Gogogo. I don't know what this means. I already said I like Vivax case...unfortunately since he's being a wiseass about it, I won't be voting for Debears tomorrow and will be voting for others I think more likely to be scum (Foolishness, MZ). So yeah, not sure what you want me to comment on. | ||
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Talk away, I'm not going anywhere today with a red check on Jackal. Tomorrow is the earliest I can hope to die. | ||
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As in, he didn't want to throw suspicion out there just so that he can say he did...he wanted to actually think about his suspicions first. thrawn what are your thoughts on the debears/Vivax thing? For my part I'm more suspicious of debears at the end of it all, based on his reactions to the case. | ||
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Vivax seems fine to me...he seems relatively active, and is at least putting out original thoughts...at least, superficially. I'll go take a gander at his filter. | ||
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If you mean the "trolling" or whatever it is he does, no, he does that regardless of alignment (I think.) You just have to read between the lines with him. He's not unreadable, but he's really really hard to read as a result. | ||
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Who knows where Cheesecake has gone? Where is Foolishness? Why are there so many people just simply not present and trying to find scum? WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?! | ||
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supersoft I'd really like to see logs before the day cycle. | ||
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That's my guess for scum. Cause fuck it, right? That's not even in order of who I want to lynch...WHAT?! | ||
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Go look at my filter and try and guess who I want to die the most. | ||
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Although to be fair I'd say that Palmar is equally poisonous to town based on his ability to garner sheep. But yeah, I want Meapak gone first. | ||
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Unless Foolishness is somehow town, then yeah, they would have had to spend .5 on MZ the first cycle too. Logs will help me to decide which is more likely. | ||
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I would say scum still have 2 KP in the form of Day Vigs today. | ||
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The KP formula? It's explicit in the OP Scum# / 2 rounded up That means that with 5 members, scum get 5/2=2.5=3 KP to play with during N2. Not 2.5 KP. That insinuates that scum lost .5 KP during N2, when the OP explicitly states otherwise. | ||
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On January 09 2013 07:26 Kurumi wrote: Wrong. Scum KP is rounded up after using roles. I didn't say anything about using roles. I stated the rule I read in the OP. Is that rule incorrect? How many KP did scum have during N2 before any roles were used? This is well within your ability to answer without giving anything away. | ||
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On January 09 2013 07:26 supersoft wrote: Explain me what they did n1 if MZ is mason. What are you getting at? If he's a town mason? I have no idea. They could have done anything that cost .5 KP, there are several possibilities that are equally likely, though I still attest that they didn't try and frame anyone. | ||
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It doesn't even matter if this is the way it's been calculated since the beginning of the game, what matters is that I've been operating under a false pretense this entire fucking game up to now. I'm done with this for now...maybe the OP will be finished when I get back. | ||
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On January 09 2013 07:40 Djodref wrote: Here is the way I see it. Grush vigged Hopeless and died from it. I'm quite confident on this one. I don't see why mafia would kill grush or Hopeless. That would be pretty stupid. Also, please remember this ^^ Grush really wanted Hopeless dead. Now, I don't know what do to with Chez being killed. But I think it's more likely to be a mafia shot if nobody claims it. On top of that, I don't think that another vigilante is possible. I really want the killer of Chez to claim, if he is town. So, we just have to see how much KP mafia used in dayvig (at the end of the day) to see if MZ is scum mason or not. So we don't lynch MZ today. I like this. +1 for objectivity. ##Unvote | ||
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On January 09 2013 07:49 Kurumi wrote: I'd like you to keep playing or I am going to modkill you for playing against your wincon. I'd like you to define "keep playing". I thought it was pretty evident in the post you quoted that I'd be back, it wasn't anything like a ragequit, so I'd like you to quantify your statement so I don't get mod-lightning for no reason. Because the rules are subject to change at any moment, this is important for my team to win - knowing exactly how much inactivity is deemed "playing against your win condition". | ||
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Part of playing a game is playing by the rules. Part of playing by the rules is knowing the rules. Kurumi was kind enough to host this game, and I respect Kurumi for that. It's because I respect Kurumi that I haven't left this piece of shit game already. It was Kurumi's fault that the KP formula was incorrect on the OP. He may have clarified it later, and I may have missed it, but because the KP formula was incorrect in the OP (the place I go to find the rules of the game) I've been playing this game with incorrect/incomplete information. This is true whether I'm scum or town, and transcends my alignment in this game. And it's not fucking fair. I don't give a shit if you don't like it supersoft - I play games because I like them, and I play by the rules because I respect them. If I don't know what the rules are, then the rules I do know I expect to be accurate. And THEY WERE NOT. I don't care if you don't like that I'm pissed off about it because that has nothing to do with you. It has to do with me, and it has to do with Kurumi. Now, I admit that yesterday (D2) I was close to rage-quitting. Marv rage-quitting made me almost ragequit myself. However, after taking as step back and looking again I decided to try to play anyway. I never EVER indicated that I was quitting this game during this cycle. I said I was taking a step away from the thread because I didn't want to rage in the thread about this stupid fucking rule anymore. Kurumi dragged me back in by making it seem like I was trying to ragequit. That is not the case. I was NOT ragequitting. It should have been clear by my post that I was just trying to keep an objective mindset by stepping away from the thread for a bit. There's nothing unsportsmanlike about my behavior. If you think Kurumi shouldn't be held accountable for the way he hosts his game, that's fine and that's your opinion. I hold Kurumi to a higher standard because he's a veteran here and it was his choice to disregard the standard OP and make his own. It was also his choice to phrase the KP formula in an ambiguous way. It was also his choice to not update the OP when the clarification was made to the KP formula. I haven't spammed, insulted, OR provoked a modkill. These are all lies. I've asked for clarification to the OP. Nothing more. | ||
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I don't care if you think I overdid it. And I don't care if you think I'm town based on my interactions with the host - that's horrible horrible play, and I think you know that - that doesn't mean that I'm mod-confirmed town in the slightest. Why could I not be putting on a show as scum? Why could this not be some insidious plan to fool townies? I should be capable of such insidiousness based on the way you think I'm playing, so why can that not be the case? In what way do the posts in question indicate that I was ragequitting? In what way do they provoke a modkill? Why do I deserve a modkill for wanting the rules clarified in the OP? Why are we still talking about this? If you think I deserve a modkill, then you should take it up with Kurumi in PMs. All you coming in here starting a shitstorm with me accomplishes is exactly what you're accusing me of: spamming the thread with nonsense that makes it hard for everyone else to play the game. The difference is, I'm doing it in the name of getting shit figured out. What's your motivation for ruining the thread? | ||
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On January 09 2013 08:59 thrawn2112 wrote: I don't really like the CC lynch. It seems like the lynch most likely to be a mislynch and if he actually is town then a cc lynch would be the worst way we could waste our time. Why are you saying CC? Purely because of policy or what? I can completely see him beeing town based on how he played in witchcraft. what are your prom/djo reads? The only thing I don't like about the CC lynch is the fact that Palmar and Foolishness are all about it. Otherwise, I think it's a fine lynch. Ugh, CC really needs to just get in here and say some stuff. Without that guy, it's just like policy lynching an inactive...and it's like...can't we do better than that on D3? | ||
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On January 09 2013 09:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Oh btw guys I'm Bob the Builder the Vanilla Townie. I'm cool enough to have a name! Prolly still means I'm scum tho. I even breadcrumbed my vt name cus i knew not caring would get me killed etc etc. WHO DO YOU THINK IS SCUM!?!???! IF YOU'RE TOWN THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE PLAY!! YOU'RE BEGGING TO BE LYNCHED REPEATEDLY POSTING LIKE THIS!! ##Vote: Mr.Cheesecake | ||
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On January 09 2013 10:29 iamperfection wrote: because of the logs that may or may not exist. palmar for my sanity better be town becasue he would have pulled such a fast one on me if he is scum This is a terrible reason. Nothing in these logs is going to change what Foolishness has done IN THIS THREAD, which is fuck all. Anyone else wanna give it a shot? | ||
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He's had ample opportunity to come in here and illustrate that he gives a shit about this game. All he's managed to do is show me that he gives a shit about lynching Cheesecake. And with all that has happened in this game, that's not cutting it for me. That demonstrates that Foolishness is trying to get away with doing nothing. Trying to get Cheesecake lynched IS THE SAME THING AS DOING NOTHING during this cycle. | ||
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On January 09 2013 11:11 iamperfection wrote: i just thought of something back to the first night with my save. I think its possible that i was saved by the mafia themselves since we got confirmation that when the mafia was at full strength that they in fact could have 2 day vigs 1 kp and one role that role could have been a medic. So if thats true they could have constructed a big play where they use kp on me and save me. So if anyone claims to have saved me i would be very supsicious of them and i think you should judge them on their play if that in fact does happen. I just think it makes more sense that they did a play like that instead of having 3 day vigs. so i think they sacficed 1 kp to in fact confirm one of their players later on. I think its a much more likely explanation than mafia just happening to spend 1 kp on me and a town member just happening to save me. So you're saying that you think that it's more likely that scum shot at you AND medic'd you than it is for a townie to have had a townread on you and protect a mason claim D1? Is this what you're trying to get me to believe that you believe? | ||
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On January 09 2013 11:13 iamperfection wrote: then why not just day vig if they wanted me dead i think it makes perfect sense. But your "theory" is that they didn't want you dead at all... Doing it your way nets them 3 KP. Shooting you at night and them choosing a .5 KP power nets them 3.5 KP for the night, at the expense of POSSIBLY being blocked. I just don't think it's as likely. It's obviously possible, I just don't think it's likely. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Foolishness Not one person here has provided even close to a good reason not to lynch him. Everyone pull your heads out of your tunnels and listen to reason. Cheesecake is going to continue to be useless, that's my prediction. Let's take it for granted that he's scum and lynch his team. I think Foolishness is our best chance right now. JOIN ME FELLOW TOWNIES! RISE UP AND TAKE BACK THIS TOWN!!! | ||
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On January 09 2013 11:25 iamperfection wrote: meh it really my case ve so you have my sword plus i owe you for lynching you in liquid city.+ Show Spoiler + Never forget Are you referring to the Cheesecake lynch? In that, it's your case because you brought it up with Palmar and he concurred, igniting the wagon in the first place? | ||
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On January 09 2013 11:32 kushm4sta wrote: not a ninja vote if i do it in the thread first. VE you had prome colored red. Something changed or would you be willing to lynch? Patience. | ||
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On January 09 2013 12:10 yamato77 wrote: I mainly just want to see him react to me calling him scum and compare that to YANMM. You probably should have called him scum then, instead of beating around the bush. | ||
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On January 09 2013 12:24 iamperfection wrote: and haven't i like put the fucking spotlight on me like all game while hunting and pushing cases. Prom is right this game is full of retards Seriously, one more fucking comment like this, and I'm done with this game. | ||
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On January 09 2013 12:27 iamperfection wrote: not if he was lying about the logs and he in fact wasnt a mason night 1 This is a fair point, and is part of the reason I'm adamant about getting ahold of some logs from our Foolish friend. | ||
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On January 09 2013 12:28 Promethelax wrote: See Imp. I know what I'm talking about. VE: KISYFM (Keep it simple you fucking moron. )+ Show Spoiler + okay, I'm kidding. VE is not a moron but still, KISS The big play on the table was before they were so far ahead Prom. | ||
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On January 09 2013 12:22 Djodref wrote: Debears the OMGUS way Here are the main reasons why debears is scum
Part I --- Fake contributions First of all, please remember debears idea of a random lynch. Did he push this idea ? Not really... Did he really think it through ? No, because he came up with statistics supporting a random lynch, when they are actually against a random lynch in our case. If debears was really thinking at a random lynch for our game, he would have noticed that our chances to hit mafia with a random lynch were at 20%, which is even less that the global average of 21.1%. The fact that he didn't really pay attention to what he was proposing and that he didn't follow it through at all shows that he didn't want to do a random lynch in the first place. This contribution is totally fake, just a nice way to enter the thread for a scum player. Another example is here. Debears put up an act with Chezinu and made several posts of jokes and stuff about it. In here, you can see that he quickly identified Palmar and iamp as masons. Maybe a little too quickly for a town player in my taste. The best example of debears fake contribution is the following post. Did he follow up with that post ? No. For example, he never mentions the fact that Vivax vote was on tube on D1 when he calls Vivax scum. That's why I think it was a fake contribution again. An other thing that I don't like here is that debears vote on marv was pretty sheepy and scummy. I would mean that his post points towards a hole in his play. Maybe he was expecting us to fall into his WIFOM trap at this point. Another fake contribution is this one. This was utterly useless, while allowing him to discredit iamp, when iamp, on top of looking like his town self, is almost confirmed town. I let you be judge of why town debears would post this. Part II --- Doesn't care who is going to get lynched So, debears has been tunneling Tunkeg all day 1 and has been shut down by marv and WBG. Which means that he somehow trusts their judgment. But then Hide in plain sight. Following Palmar, regardless of Palmar alignment, was a perfect excuse for scum to try to get marv mislynched, which they should have dreamed of since they received their role PM. I don't like how he dropped his vote on Cheese today as well. That's all his contributions for today. Part III --- Discrediting everyone attacking him So far, I have town reads on Vivax and Lazermonkey. I'm quite confident in these reads, because both of them seem genuinely involved, trying to figuring stuff out, and taking care of this game more than a lot of people. So, I'm very surprised that town debears don't share these reads. I mean, Vivax case had some bad points, but some points were good as well. He could have addressed the case without the OMGUS. It is worth of noting that he didn't provide as case, nor interacted with them so much before calling them scum. Debears had nothing to do with Vivax before that, and it's even more flagrant with LM. The accusation is coming out of nowhere. Part IV --- Going for the easy targets then backing off From Hero Mini Mafia, debears should have known that Tunkeg, when town, is an easy mislynch. I'm quite surprised he chose Tunkeg for his tunnel, while knowing that. More surprising is how he let himself shut down but WBG and marv. Even more surprising is how he doesn't care about Prome anymore. Since Tunkeg has been replaced, debears doesn't put any pressure at all on Prom. Yet his suspicions are still here. And he should know that giving replacements some leeway is not necessarily good, because it has for example allowed me to survive for too long in Mario Mini Mafia. Here is what he thinks about Prom right now, so I don't see why he wouldn't be after him today, even yesterday. Another easy target to go after was me, because of my low activity at the beginning. Please notice how debears comes after me with an discrediting post to back up quite quickly when I start to be more active. And then to change it into Let's lynch debears today ! ##Vote debears Reposted. /salute | ||
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On January 09 2013 12:36 iamperfection wrote: you gave like no evidence at all and i feel like iv'e been the towniest player in the game of course im going to call you stupid Why? Call me lazy if you want, but me providing no evidence does NOT make me stupid. It makes me lazy. Do you think I'm stupid? Even if I think you're scum, do you think I'm fucking stupid iamp? | ||
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On January 09 2013 12:37 Djodref wrote: guys, could you cut this crap and read my case against debears, please ? @ iamp I think that Hopeless was your savior. I don't think any scum is going to be safe claiming they have protected you since we have a medic already dead now. Please keep your paranoia at an acceptable level. I didn't find any crumb in his filter for your save, but given how many blues we have already, not even taking MZ into account, I think that we don't have another medic. @ VE I think debears is a better lynch today than Foolishness. I guess a debears lynch could create more discussion than a Foolishness lynch. Please consider my case, OK ? Also you shouldn't waste your time with iamp. At least I don't think so. You just hold your horses bro. I reposted the case with the express intention of reading it through because I felt bad for spamming it away. Now give people some time to read that monstrosity. | ||
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Froggynoddy still MIA. HiroPro still MIA. Clarity MIA. Fun fact: Mr.Cheesecake has posted more than all three of these players this cycle. Foolishness I want dead. DEAD do you hear me? I don't care what you have to do! Bring me his head! I would have words with Palmar. Bring him to me - alive. | ||
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He's open with his thoughts and looks EXACTLY how I'd expect him to look as town. Where'd you come up with this stuff? He's one of the only people I trust right now... | ||
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Do you realize that before that post I had a townread on you? Who do you think is scum? You've given me two townreads since your entrance to the cycle, and zero scumreads. Tell me who you want to lynch and why. | ||
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Djo is NOT the lynch today. Please, no more tunneling of Djo. Your attention is sorely needed elsewhere if you're town thrawn. | ||
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Think about that question before you answer it please. | ||
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If you're scum, you're fooling me sir. | ||
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On January 09 2013 16:36 thrawn2112 wrote: more are you talking about foolish or cc? It was in response to your question to Clarity about HiroPro. You said that you couldn't remember the last thing Hiro did. Why is that not suspicious to you? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote debears His responses to Vivax case reeked of scum. And in spite of calling Vivax and Lazer both scum because of their suspicion, his vote landed on Cheeseguy to start the day. I'm totally cool with a debears lynch today. Everything he's posted has seemed fake. | ||
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Like...really. Supersoft, if you have his Foolish logs you better post that shit. | ||
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Ugh, fucking scum. I want to kill ALL the fucking scum. | ||
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:/ Palmar and Toad can absolutely die. DIE. Naysayers. CHARLATANS! They're not reading the therad. Verily, they don't care to catch up or find scum. Palmar requested that we lynch him instead of vig him. Let's oblige him. ##Unvote: debears ##Vote: Palmar | ||
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For my part I went and read YAN, and the differences are immediately apparent. You look to be actually trying to figure that game out in YAN, you ask questions, try and clarify peoples' reads...you're less sure of yourself and more open to discussion. In this game you're like, dead set in your reads and not questioning your own conclusions, which is something I'd expect from a town Prom. | ||
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On January 10 2013 02:10 Promethelax wrote: VE: besides the fact that I want to here more from Thrawn about this and not you; I disagree. In YAN there were other townies trying to figure things out and I was working with them. Here there are a bunch of dudes running around like chickens with their heads cut off stopping only to squirt greasy shit stains of accusations at people before running off again. Someone needs to have strong reads and vote for those reads. Note how seven people followed me onto Dibbers? yeah. I'll lynch Palmar with you tomorrow if you will lynch Dibbers with me today. To the bolded LOL You don't want my input? Get outta here. There are other townies trying to figure things out in this game too, and you taking a shit all over town doesn't change that fact. You can die along with the other scum...but if you're going to continue to post and at least PRETEND that you're town, you can live long enough to see us lynch your buddies. How's THAT for a deal? | ||
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GOD DAMNIT | ||
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Palmar most of my read of you is based on your refusal to do anything for the last couple cycles. You're still alive, which if you're town is like...unfathomable, but meh - considering the wagons on D1, that's not super crazy. I've read the logs, but because you didn't follow up with any kind of activity on subsequent days... Whatever I'll go read them again. | ||
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I can't find the logs - link? | ||
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But whatever, it is what it is. | ||
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On January 05 2013 09:15 VisceraEyes wrote: ....Processing....Processing....Translation Complete. There's this too Hiro. | ||
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I would support a lynch of Toadesstern today. | ||
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Like, you are your own worst enemy if you're town here boss - D1 is supposed to be your strongest day, you tunneled 2 townies. You haven't done shit since then, in spite of being redeemed in the form of Bugs pulling in a red check. And now you're here referring back to logs that appear to me to be scum trying to fake caring about the game. | ||
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Hiro don't disappear now | ||
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Cheesecake has Kush in here screaming his towniness. Palmar has iamp in here screaming his towniness. debears has thrawn in here screaming his towniness. Is anyone screaming of Promethelax' towniness? | ||
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Who I ask?! | ||
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On January 10 2013 06:49 Lazermonkey wrote: Yhea, but the games are diferent arenät they? he posted shit loads of stuff in that game so he is obviously not fitting in his town meta at all(which doesn't say too to much because he doesn't actually fit his scum meta either IIRC, which makes the meta a null). And I don't buy the argument: ''he was bad in witchcraft and town, thus every time he is bad, he is scum.'' That would just be silly. Actually it would be double silly, because you could NEVER lynch CC implying that logic. Can you tell me ONE reason for him to play like he does as town. And I'm not talking about not contributing but rather the fact that he doesn't care about the game YET he does post 1 post every cycle in order not to get modkilled. Okay I'm sold. This has been said before, but yeah it's only really sunk in now. Let's off Cheese. Players also fitting this description: froggynoddy, Sentinel and to a lesser degree, Foolishness. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mr.Cheesecake | ||
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On January 09 2013 07:40 Djodref wrote: Here is the way I see it. Grush vigged Hopeless and died from it. I'm quite confident on this one. I don't see why mafia would kill grush or Hopeless. That would be pretty stupid. Also, please remember this ^^ Grush really wanted Hopeless dead. Now, I don't know what do to with Chez being killed. But I think it's more likely to be a mafia shot if nobody claims it. On top of that, I don't think that another vigilante is possible. I really want the killer of Chez to claim, if he is town. So, we just have to see how much KP mafia used in dayvig (at the end of the day) to see if MZ is scum mason or not. So we don't lynch MZ today. The thread was primed for an MZ lynch today. I was READY to pull the trigger on MZ myself...yet Djo comes in and talks me down using logic. What motivation would scum have to do that? | ||
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If the thread really was primed for an MZ lynch then why would they shoot him? Like, and it was too...Palmar, myself, marv had a case....an MZ lynch could have happened. So why WOULD they shoot him. :/ | ||
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That's different...because it means they can do it at any point. Meaning that it had an agenda behind it. They used the dayvig on MZ...meaning they wanted it to go through no matter what. And at any time they want... It's not just night-kill speculation, there's more information surrounding it than night-kills. | ||
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On January 10 2013 07:52 supersoft wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373946¤tpage=159 at this point they knew that i knew that MZ must be town. he died 11 pages later... Who is they? Scumslip?!!? | ||
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On January 10 2013 08:15 Palmar wrote: I could possibly see myself lynching Froggy or Cheesecake today. I'm not sure lynching into the loud people is the best idea to be honest. Is this just you trying to excuse doing anything? Don't lie to me Palmar. You said today we should lynch you - because according to you it would be "the most informative mislynch" or whatever. Why is that so with you but not other "loud" players? | ||
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On January 10 2013 08:31 Palmar wrote: VisceraEyes. Can you read Toad's filter and tell me how it makes you feel? Do I have to? I can already answer you that it will make me feel like I want to kill myself with something dull and blunt... | ||
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It makes me feel like he's scared to push wagons himself. During the whole time I was reading his filter, he was always commenting on others' suspicions and never voicing or pushing any of his own. In spite of that, he feels confident enough during the night-phase to direct blues. | ||
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On January 04 2013 09:03 Toadesstern wrote: hey clarity still up for lynching Jackal? I'd really like to know who you want to see lynched right now and wether you changed your thoughts about Jackal once you heard he's a vet. Well you didn't I can see that but a little update on your part would be awesome. Let's say you're not allowed to lynch Jackal. Who'd be the guy you lynch? | ||
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He literally said this. Yeah, debears get your shit together. I want to lynch Toad today. ##Unvote ##Vote: Toadesstern He's clearly not interested in helping town find scum. He's not even PRETENDING anymore. PLEASE help me lynch Toad guys. | ||
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On January 10 2013 15:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Why are you saying who you want dead without reading the thread in the first place? What town motivation is there for saying you want Hopeless and I dead if you haven't even read the fucking thread to see if you think I'm scum? You're ADMITTING to being scum Toad, do you not understand that? You're admitting to the thread that you don't read the thread before you post, because you don't give a shit about helping town find scum. It's no longer about lazy. He admitted to coming in and saying he still wanted me and Hopeless to die in spite of not even LOOKING at the thread in however long. That is clearly anti-town and deserves rope. | ||
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On January 04 2013 09:03 Toadesstern wrote: hey clarity still up for lynching Jackal? I'd really like to know who you want to see lynched right now and wether you changed your thoughts about Jackal once you heard he's a vet. Well you didn't I can see that but a little update on your part would be awesome. Let's say you're not allowed to lynch Jackal. Who'd be the guy you lynch? | ||
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On January 11 2013 02:31 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I am catching up, if you would like to explain this I am interested. I have read the last 6 pages just now and nothing is really going on. I am going to get to reading Toads filter but if you would like to summarize that would be good too. Sorry it took me a bit to sub in. I worked a lot the last two days while sick and got home and passed out last night. I'm off today and Saturday though so I figured I'd have a good bit of time to play. Killing Palmar was a nice touch. If you're really filtering Toad, I doubt you'll need a summary of the case. In short though, he's been saying scummy as shit things all game, he hasn't scumhunted at all and he's got a pretty strong association with Jackal. He admitted to calling for my lynch and Hopeless lynch in spite of not reading the thread at all, this is blatantly antitown and needs rope. Don't let me down RoL I need help here. Something tells me there's a reason I didn't die instead of Palmar. | ||
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On January 11 2013 02:43 kushm4sta wrote: No post indicated that palmar was coming around to toad. I don't like this toad lynch. VE looks scummy now. Why? Kush are you even thinking? Think sir. Why do I look scummy, because I didn't die? Is anything about my play scummy to you? | ||
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Wish me luck with my wagon - I wish you all the luck with yours. May we both get what we want in the days to come. | ||
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Why would he give up? I understand debears giving up, and Cheesecake is....whatever. But Toad has NO REASON TO GIVE UP. It's not even like his scumreads have flipped town BECAUSE HE HAS HAD NO SCUMREADS BUT ME ALL GAME. He's not giving up - he's simply not reading the thread...but in spite of that, has opinions on who should die. The Jackal thing is what it is - an association. But think about the context behind it. He was saying with that post that we shouldn't lynch into veterans - except, this game was chock full of veterans. It doesn't make sense from a townie perspective, limiting such a large portion of the playerbase. | ||
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Was it the Palmar kill? Can you think of a reason why I would kill Palmar as scum? Even one? | ||
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On December 30 2012 07:25 Toadesstern wrote: I am so going to use that the next time I join a game with an election for mayor. | ||
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On January 11 2013 05:54 kushm4sta wrote: thanks for bodifying that thrawn. that's a good point. ok ##unvote debears ##vote toad I MADE THAT POINT HE LITERALLY QUOTED MY POST WHAT THE HOLY FUCK KUSH?! | ||
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On January 11 2013 06:07 supersoft wrote: your thoughts are worthless. You're trying to connect things that dont belong together. If Toad is town, debears is scum If toad is scum, debears is 0, more likely town +1 | ||
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What is this? | ||
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Bring it back up at night after the flip. | ||
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SS what did you think of RoL entrance to the game? | ||
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If you're town you're playing a despicable game Toad, and you know this. | ||
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On January 11 2013 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh bteedubz, Toad's vote on himself...Kush unvoting extraordinarily scummy to me. | ||
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Scum win | ||
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Please just make it end. | ||
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....but you wanted to help me kill Toad XD | ||
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Toad - I hates you. BC - I'm bad. Jackal - Play more. Scum - gg. | ||
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I was seriously pissed off that you were taking the stance that I was trying to confirm myself as town. | ||
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I kid, I kid <3 Kurumi Kush I'm literally not even going to respond to what you're saying. | ||
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On January 12 2013 02:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: That being said, Vivax had the best mafia play of his entire team. not trying to belittle that at all. His play was easily some of the best in the game if not the best. Agree. He looked very town (barring scumslips ) | ||
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On January 12 2013 02:33 thrawn2112 wrote: ve you almost caught me by a big scumslip but you got distracted by some wifom and didn't pursue it Yeah I remember. XD | ||
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On January 12 2013 07:33 Djodref wrote: Also Kush saved iamp day 1, not Hopeless, if I read the spreadsheet correctly So congrats to kush for that save. By the way, we almost shot Clarity instead of Chez N2. Chez's kill was highly debated at last minute in the skype convo. Mother of God..... | ||
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Of course my one night-action is rendered ineffective due to OVER activity from the scumteam. /facepalm | ||
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On January 12 2013 10:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I owe Marvellosity an apology for eviscerating him in the obs QT. Marv that was extremely inappropriate and I'm sorry. I let my frustrations at the game get the better of me. Gotta leave all emotions with the game. Yeah, we all need a big group hug after this game fo riz. | ||
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Like you friend? Should I play like you Kush? | ||
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