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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 09 2013 22:44 GMT
#3587
mh who were the other suspects at this point of time?
but meh... i don't know... agenda...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 09 2013 22:45 GMT
#3589
yeah he was confirmed because of the KP stuff we talked about, VE ;-)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 09 2013 22:49 GMT
#3595
i haven't looked... I thought we had this trough befor they shot MZ...? wait a sec
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 09 2013 22:51 GMT
#3596
MZ died at page 170... wait a sec
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 09 2013 22:52 GMT
#3598
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373946&currentpage=159

at this point they knew that i knew that MZ must be town.
he died 11 pages later...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 09 2013 22:54 GMT
#3599
yeah no. MZ was confirmed when he died... I don't think they wanted to get him out of the way to lynch someone else or anything... My theory is they killed confirmed townies... pretty obviously...
I wonder what happened to chezinu though...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 09 2013 23:50 GMT
#3654
On January 10 2013 08:45 Palmar wrote:
It's a good point VE.

@Prom Supersoft's main thing is how ridiculously quickly he stamped me town on day one when I was in hardcore troll mode.


On July 24 2012 00:03 supersoft wrote:
Okay I am home, let's clean up.

First of all, I want you to explain what really happened this game:
It's always the same, the scumvets and the townvets fight for the townleadership. 2 Townvets, syllogism and sandroba had an insanely strong start.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2012 18:00 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 15:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 16 2012 15:43 Blazinghand wrote:
To add to my previous post, which is unreasonably short: That's awfully irresponsible of you, M_Z. Are you FoSing him without calling him scum? Way to take any air whatosever out of your FoS. You're probably worried that you'll be told by your overlords that he's scum with you and you want an excuse not to vote him later.

##unvote
##vote: Meapak_Ziphh

lulz didn't scroll.

So apparently I need to define FoS. Stands for Finger of Suspicion. Gives a heads up to Chez that his current play isn't working and that he needs to change or it's lynch time. When I vote for someone, I want them to die and will work for that unless significant evidence can convince me otherwise. If you just throw votes around like you (and bugs -_-) are doing, they get the air taken out of them. My post was prompted by remembering Chez's previous gambit I saw him play. Either he continues to play scummy and we kill him, or he shapes up and plays nice. Obviously he could still be scum even if he shapes up but it'll be much harder for him to cause chaos if he's playing nice and we catch him later on.

So do you think his play so far is indicative of him being mafia? If so, do you want him to change his behavior or do you want to lynch him? Do you always give people who you think may be mafia "heads up" so they can change their play? Moreover, do you think your "warning" will make him change his play?

Hi sandroba, you around?


On July 16 2012 19:09 syllogism wrote:
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On July 16 2012 14:49 Probulous wrote:
Wow, that was useful...

Ok since no-one seems to want to actually participate, here are some thoughts of mine of the setup.

Aside from trying to kill town, the only thing that binds mafia as a team is their strategy dictated from above. From my reading this is sent during the night. Thus day 2 is going to be crucial. We should be aware of people who change reads for bad reasons or suddenly become active. Basically anyone who suddenly gains direction overnight will be a good target to poke. As for Day 1, I think participation and clarity will be extra useful because mafia now know that they are setting themselves up for difficulties in Day 2 if they pick targets Day 1. People with clear targets are going to have to work harder to change them if a different CEO strategy comes in.

Thoughts?

My thoughts are that I would like to lynch you for this post. This reads like someone wanting to seem like they are contributing, but you are a smart person so you should know there is no reason to post something like this on day 1. You are basically announcing beforehand what you will consider mafia behavior and as town there is little reason to do that as you specifically want mafia to act according to your expectations.



I knew that they were town from the first couple of posts.
Foolishness and Palmar saw that, too. I know exactly that they saw it because they tried to attack both of them instantly. There is no way, that Palmar honestly thought that syllogism is scum at the end of day1.

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On July 17 2012 02:27 Palmar wrote:
Supersoft nailed it. MVP. I'm going to stop playing and start working on a bronze statue of him to erect in my bathroom.


he even tried to pull me on his side. So my first allegation is basically this:

Palmar attacks Syllogism even though he knows that he's town.


Second allegation:
Some people are wondering why we chose Palmar all of a sudden, while I for example was defending him until n2. As you see, I faked it.
+ Show Spoiler +


On July 17 2012 02:43 supersoft wrote:
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On July 17 2012 02:37 sandroba wrote:
On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote:
CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG

You are wrong. Katina alignment is non conclusive right now. Move on to palmar/mz/bh/syllo/probulus.


ah I corrected that list for you ;-)

*stop going for palmar. All of you. That guy works best if you let him do his job. judge him based on his results not based on his playstyle.

+
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 02:27 Palmar wrote:
Supersoft nailed it. MVP. I'm going to stop playing and start working on a bronze statue of him to erect in my bathroom.


this makes him the most hillarious player so far. We can't afford to lose him.


On July 22 2012 03:01 supersoft wrote:
Town-vets&
26. Palmar town
3. Sandroba town
11. Supersoft town

???-Vets&
6. Foolishness
10. Meapak_Ziphh
16. GGQ
7. VisceraEyes
15. syllogism

Troll
8. Bill Murray
18. Chezinu

dead
25. RebirthofLegend town
19. Kurumi town
13. Wherebugsgo town


yes you do VE.
I devided the playerlist in two parts. in these parts in another 3 parts *4 parts for this part. because 3 of this list are already dead.
There were 13 players on that list. That means about 4 of them are scum. 3 of them are dead and one of them is me.
1 is sandroba and 1 is palmar. 2 of them are troll i cannot possibly read because they never make any sense.

syllogism makes most sense of the 5 remaining players. leaves you, mz, foolish and GGQ
if one of the trolls is scum
and i made one mistake,
2 of you are scum


On July 22 2012 03:40 supersoft wrote:
no wtf are you doing to me. I refiltered palmar and I agree on everything he says except syllogism and katina.


this was extremely fake. Sorry I had to do that, I wanted to lull Palmar into a false sense of security.

On July 22 2012 04:15 supersoft wrote:
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On July 22 2012 04:07 Palmar wrote:
On July 22 2012 03:32 supersoft wrote:
ah very well. Palmar do youi have any powers?


Even if I thought revealing my role was beneficial, why would I do it during the night?


maybe i am a vig and i don't want to misfire. :-D


this however was extremely real. I had Palmars kill already typed in several times at n2.

I was suspicious of Palmar right from the start, when he attacked syllo and sandro for no reason. I wanted to see how Palmar plays without pressure and we all saw it:

He was fucking useless.


Third: His roleclaim *facepalm*
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On July 23 2012 23:12 syllogism wrote:
You are right, I think he messed up and forgot that RoL died first, though obviously he can't claim RoL's role as that could be tested immediately. If he gets to choose whose role he takes, there is no way he would take WBG's pardoner role as that's worthless.


the thought that Palmar picks up a pardoner-power when he's town is just ridiculous

LET'S LYNCH THAT SCUM


this is my usual way to play with you palmar.
This game i just didn't switch over into killing you...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 01:53 GMT
#3683
7. Toadesstern
28. Mr. Cheesecake


Toad almost 100% confirmed scum in my eyes right now... Sorry dude. I got you. Don't even dare to argue yourself out of this ;-) You might aswell admit it.
Cheesecake obviously...


19. Foolishness replaced by RoL
17. Palmar


one of them should be scum, balancewise. Not an issue today, since we got more solid lynches...

I am no sure about debears, sure he's terrible, asking pointless questions, is lying etc. etc. but many of you do that...
huh...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 11:57 GMT
#3726
ahm no? how could that fucker end up dying before he responded to my contradiction?
interesting though.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 18:11 GMT
#3775
okay okay okay. I am back!

3 Targets for today:

Toadesstern, Debears and Cheesecake
everyone read these guys again!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 18:33 GMT
#3781
lol VE, are serious?
we don't want two wagons... Scum can easily manipulate the wagons in that case.
Right now we have 4 targets... if you coint prom as one...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 18:38 GMT
#3784
On January 11 2013 03:36 kushm4sta wrote:
I read through toads filter and it feels town.


Quotes!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 19:38 GMT
#3806
this is indeed something to worry about dodjef
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 21:07 GMT
#3851
On January 11 2013 06:04 kushm4sta wrote:
if toad is scum, ve is town.
if toad is town, ve is scum.
those are my current thoughts.


your thoughts are worthless. You're trying to connect things that dont belong together.
If Toad is town, debears is scum
If toad is scum, debears is 0, more likely town
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 21:11 GMT
#3857
On January 11 2013 06:08 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 06:07 supersoft wrote:
On January 11 2013 06:04 kushm4sta wrote:
if toad is scum, ve is town.
if toad is town, ve is scum.
those are my current thoughts.


your thoughts are worthless. You're trying to connect things that dont belong together.
If Toad is town, debears is scum
If toad is scum, debears is 0, more likely town


Why is this exactly lol?


ahm you're right that's not true, i just wanted to mirror kushmasta...
It should be 0, more likely scum...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 21:35 GMT
#3875
Kushmaster doesnt make any sense... I am concerned right now...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 21:37 GMT
#3879
my personal, unofficial votecount i just made...

debears - (5)
Promethelax
yamato77
Djodref
[UoN]Sentinel
Vivax

Toadesstern - (8)
supersoft
VisceraEyes
Clarity_nl
Toadesstern
HiroPro
RebirthOfLegend
thrawn2112
kushm4sta

Mr. Cheesecake - (3)
Lazermonkey
iamperfection
debears

Have not yet voted - (2)
Mr. Cheesecake
froggynoddy
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 21:40 GMT
#3881
On January 11 2013 06:36 kushm4sta wrote:
HUH?? when is mylo makes perfect sense to figure out because it might be the case that we can't mislynch today or something... inwhich case cc last second vote woudl win scum the game.

we should figure out when it is ( i think tomorrow) because you know scum is going to be thinking about that


I am concerned because your vote is on Toad, however you seem to believe he's town and you're trying to connect his alignment to VEs and my alignment!
Because of that i am getting fucking concerned, because i am starting to think you're scum...
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 21:43 GMT
#3884
On January 11 2013 06:41 kushm4sta wrote:
@ss I don't think VE and toad are both scum. that is the only connection.


oh yes i forgot, I pointed out that this is bullshit and after that you added me to your shitty list.
Do you realize how terrible you are at this game? Better just shut up.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 10 2013 21:46 GMT
#3887
On January 11 2013 06:44 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 06:43 supersoft wrote:
On January 11 2013 06:41 kushm4sta wrote:
@ss I don't think VE and toad are both scum. that is the only connection.


oh yes i forgot, I pointed out that this is bullshit and after that you added me to your shitty list.
Do you realize how terrible you are at this game? Better just shut up.

why do you want me to shutup if im scum?


I don't know if you're scum, if Toad is scum, you're probably town.
Since I believe Toad is scum, i think you're just a terrible townie. Therefor i am telling you to shut up, because youre terrible.
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