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On January 05 2013 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
Lazer, you need to give a really good answer on why I am more suspicious than MZ, given our relative contributions this game. My case on MZ alone is already more contributions than MZ.
Please do so about now. Read Palmars filter. You shall find the answer!
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On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes? They can. But I don't find it very likely.
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On January 05 2013 22:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:10 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
Lazer, you need to give a really good answer on why I am more suspicious than MZ, given our relative contributions this game. My case on MZ alone is already more contributions than MZ.
Please do so about now. Read Palmars filter. You shall find the answer! no, that's not good enough. YOU need to give a really good reason why I am more suspicious than MZ this game. Look at our relative contributions, look at our relative investment. Stop jerking your puny little dick in Palmar's direction because you're too fucking pathetic to think for yourself. I don't see how it's a problem. Another thing that makes me doubt you is the fact that already 2 DTs have flipped, one was day slow DT...
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On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes? They can. But I don't find it very likely. That's not not not what I asked. I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.
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On January 05 2013 22:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:14 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:12 marvellosity wrote:On January 05 2013 22:10 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
Lazer, you need to give a really good answer on why I am more suspicious than MZ, given our relative contributions this game. My case on MZ alone is already more contributions than MZ.
Please do so about now. Read Palmars filter. You shall find the answer! no, that's not good enough. YOU need to give a really good reason why I am more suspicious than MZ this game. Look at our relative contributions, look at our relative investment. Stop jerking your puny little dick in Palmar's direction because you're too fucking pathetic to think for yourself. I don't see how it's a problem. Another thing that makes me doubt you is the fact that already 2 DTs have flipped, one was day slow DT... It's a problem because when morons like you who refuse to think themselves sheep someone and they're wrong, that means all of a sudden a third of town is voting for someone because they can't utilise their own brains. Please use yours. You just made a pretty decent case on Hopeless, so now do your own work on me. I don't see how me repeating like 90% of Palmar's case would help us really.
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On January 05 2013 22:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey lazer what do you think of debears?
bonus question: say hypothetically (or not?) you and debears are scum. which of your other scumbuds do you two disagree with the most over what lynches to push? I haven't looked into him TBH.
And wtf is up with your bonus question? How is it even relevant?
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On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes? They can. But I don't find it very likely. That's not not not what I asked. I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely. Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1. Your reasoning is bad. I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.
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Okay Marv, here is a short summary:
few posts early on with significance
Lack of scum hunting early on
You push Adam for (IMO) quite weak reasons
Two DTs flip after Lynch.
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EBWOP: ow, your ignoring me. Nvm then...
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On January 05 2013 22:27 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes? They can. But I don't find it very likely. That's not not not what I asked. I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely. Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1. Your reasoning is bad. I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing. You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today, Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense. Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing?
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On January 05 2013 22:33 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:31 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer why can't MZ and marv not both be scum at the same time in your eyes? They can. But I don't find it very likely. That's not not not what I asked. I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely. Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1. Your reasoning is bad. I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing. You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today, Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense. Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing? HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ. It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum.
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EBWOP: and in case you didn't notice, Marv was pushing MZ.
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Thus there is a chance for both of them to be scum like I said.
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On January 05 2013 22:38 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 22:34 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:33 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:31 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 22:14 Clarity_nl wrote:On January 05 2013 22:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
[quote]They can. But I don't find it very likely.
That's not not not what I asked. I'm asking WHY it's not very likely in your eyes Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely. Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1. Your reasoning is bad. I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing. You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today, Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense. Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing? HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ. It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum. This is not true. I don't think it's true for marv because he has to deliver, regardless of his alignment, and it's definitively not true for kush. I also like to bus by the way  If this is true than I will reconsider. But the question is: is it true?
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On January 05 2013 22:40 Vivax wrote:
I'm not lynching hopeless any time soon. That might be subject to change.
Marv, you should count until 10, then come back, and read the new 10 pages of game that popped out.
We are going to crush the scum hiding behind Palmars huge huge huge shadow. Why not kill hopeless? He is scum you know!
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sooo, dudes. What do you think of Hopeless? Have you read my case? WBGs cas?
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On January 05 2013 23:19 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think the case itself isn't bad, but I don't believe hopeless is scum right now.
Policy talk is kind of his thing, as either alignment. Hopeless has this nasty habit as town to not scumhunt, sometimes.
Him switching votes like 4x close to deadline makes me think he's town. Well, I disagree but OK.
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On January 05 2013 23:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him, Lazer? Hmmm, I think you are grasping at straws a bit. Attacking the ways he is expressing himself and what not. alot of it comes down to WIFOM. Like your using this as a argument for him being scum: Let's start with the very first sentence: Show nested quote +Good. Nobody has missed me. I wish I was a scum, I could lurk all the way to morning or even the deadline. "lol you guys I wish I was scum, because if I was scum I would continue lurking, therefore this statement is me implying I'm town" Implying that you are town is a scummy thing to do, town have no need for it, they ARE town, they don't have to imply it. But more telling than that is that Sentinel betrays his own priorities, namely that while reading through the thread the first thing he looks for is if anyone is suspicious of him. Town look for scum, and if they see a case on themselves then they might react, they don't react to the fact that there is no case on them.
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On January 05 2013 23:51 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 23:43 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 05 2013 23:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
What do you think of Sentinel and my case on him, Lazer? Hmmm, I think you are grasping at straws a bit. Attacking the ways he is expressing himself and what not. alot of it comes down to WIFOM. Like your using this as a argument for him being scum: Let's start with the very first sentence: Good. Nobody has missed me. I wish I was a scum, I could lurk all the way to morning or even the deadline. "lol you guys I wish I was scum, because if I was scum I would continue lurking, therefore this statement is me implying I'm town" Implying that you are town is a scummy thing to do, town have no need for it, they ARE town, they don't have to imply it. But more telling than that is that Sentinel betrays his own priorities, namely that while reading through the thread the first thing he looks for is if anyone is suspicious of him. Town look for scum, and if they see a case on themselves then they might react, they don't react to the fact that there is no case on them. Though I think that its entirely possible that he is just a lazy townie and what not. His play isn't really pro-town but he is not playing a very good scum game either. I'm not keen on lynching him tomrrow really. He is null for me. It shows a scum mindset. As town you might care about not getting lynched, but until that point you don't care what people think of you that much. As scum you care a helluva lot more, and him lurking and then going "wtf I'm not under suspicion?" is total scum mindset. Implying you are town is on the list of top 10 things scum like to do. If he was a lazy townie then he wouldn't suddenly be surprised that no one finds him suspicious. if he was a lazy townie then he wouldn't make a promise to go super scumhunting and then not follow through. That's scum trying to force himself to contribute but not being able to, because it's hard to scumhunt when you're scum. He didn't have the balls to call me scum, he never followed up on reading Hero Mini, and even his vote on Palmar was because he was scum, it was because he hadn't posted the logs I think its quite obvious that he is joking in the post. And that is what I mean with WIFOM in your case. Either he is serious in which case you are right or he is joking. So it comes down to WIFOM. For example did both grush and VE claim town the first page, would you call them scum for that?
Also, the fact that he lied(didn't check hero, or at least didn't say so + never called you scum) is bad play regardless of whether he is scum or town so I don't think it's a very good tell at all.
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