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yamato77
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On January 06 2013 14:30 iamperfection wrote: seems fine to me he has been wrong about everything so thats a good sign iamp knows what's up Also there's no reason not to kill jackal so I'll go vote him in the vote thread | ||
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yamato77
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It's okay I have had a scum read on VE too Fuck those vets | ||
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yamato77
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I'm not wrong EVERY time. | ||
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yamato77
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Anyway I'm going to go read through the end of day 1 where I was posting on my phone from work. I will find the scummy votes and lynch them on the morrow. | ||
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yamato77
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Marv didn't say so but he wasn't really in a position to OMGUS the guy who was accusing him with a massive following. Palmar might be a good lynch, especially if he decides to do nothing from here on out. Scum to me in this situation would have flip flopped between the wagons of Marv and BC because either one was a good lynch. VE did this with a bunch of shit posts talking with Marv. First he didn't opposed the Marv lynch, then he did, then he voted for BC with a weak ass justification. People opposing either lynch look townie to me because of the reverse of that logic. Keir, Prom, Bugs (deceased). These are just my initial thoughts. VE is scummy though for sure. | ||
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yamato77
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My bad VE you're not that scummy. | ||
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yamato77
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I didn't like hopeless from the start so I can get behind that lynch. MZ is a popular lynch idea for tomorrow already so that's good. Palmar I have no idea how to tell if he's scum. There's plenty of evidence that he's not but I don't know to what lengths he would go to win as scum. | ||
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yamato77
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I guess everyone thought they had to type in the thread but that ability seemed really strong to me. They give up a KP the night before, which could be blocked, for an UNBLOCKABLE KP the next day to use at any time. Super strong. | ||
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yamato77
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On January 07 2013 06:58 Foolishness wrote: Here are two of his filter's from games when he is town: Witchcraft MINI Mafia Newbie MINI Mafia XXXII The first thing one should immediately notice is the amount of times he's posting. In a 13 player game he had an outstanding 23 pages of filter. In a 9 player game (the Newbie game) he had 7 pages of filter in the first cycle (he was killed night 1). This is a guy who likes to post. He likes to be a Bill Murray or Coagulation. He wants to post and respond to everything that's going on. I shouldn't need to tell you that this game he hasn't even had a full page of posts yet. Though his filter has been mostly one liners it's clear that he does not care about this game. His second most recent post is this: And he never followed through on his "cooking up". He admitted in one of his earlier posts that he's not contributing: But he hasn't done anything to try to redeem himself. He does not care. His taunting of us to sheep his lynch is also very disturbing. It doesn't accomplish anything for the town. He did it in the above post and in the following: What is the purpose of him doing that? It does nothing except draw attention away from himself. He doesn't want attention drawn to himself. He doesn't want anyone calling him out. He does it to make us scared of calling him scum. He wants out of the spotlight because he is mafia. In the two games he was town I put above, you can clearly see how vested he is in the game. Take one of his posts from witchcraft mini + Show Spoiler + On December 22 2012 07:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: THIS WAS TYPED UP QUICKLY, DON'T EXPECT TOO MUCH ORGANIZATION, BUT MY OPINION STANDS. I'M ABOUT TO ASK KUSH TO VOTE JX WITH ME. HE KNOWS HE WILL FLIP TOWN. THEN TOWN LYNCHES ME / DJO = SCUMWIN. IF KUSH VOTES WITH ME FOR JX -- EYWA / KUSH SCUMTEAM GG Don't flatter yourself. The only thing I saw was a meta case which was questionable and his reluctance to lynch DYH. I truly believe Djo is Innocent, I cannot pair him up with a scumbuddy. Do JX / Eywa make sense? No, he's pushed for the lynch of JX hardcore and flamed with Eywa, who even called him part of the scumteam. Do I make sense? Yes, I do, but I'm town. Djo's only "scummy quality" is his reluctance to lynch DYH. That's it. If I recall, didn't KUSH actively attempt to PREVENT the DYH lynch? Trying to protect his scumbuddy. FAKECLAIM! Calling it right now. You want to know why he was SAFE to fakeclaim? Nobody else claimed. He was trying to see if any town were empowered by witchcraft. Thrawn also was likely to be witchcrafted, since I think at least 2 people voted for him. He also knows that at least I voted for him. He is completely safe to make this fakeclaim -- A scry on DYH. And DYH just happened to be the priest, how convenient. The entire situation just seems to convenient for Kush. He didn't even breadcrumb the god-damned check. Then, he tries to push a mislynch, JX. Look at his reasons for voting JX... 100% knew morb was town... SO DID EYWA. Cases built on terrible reasoning... EYWA MORESO. Why does he want to lynch JX over Eywa? Because he's his scumbuddy. Look at his hard-defense of Eywa. Think about it: Does Kush EVER defend people like this? First time forum mafia game my ass, so what. Normal Kush wouldn't give a damn. Kush's case on Djo is OKAY to say the least, but it hinges on only one thing: reluctance to lynch DYH. Kush was SO MUCH MORE reluctant, trying to push another mislynch, and only bussing at the very last second. Why does he think Eywa is town?? Mad that he's getting pressured? Eywa Kush scumteam. And look at this BS: Let's see, everyone that is dead and someone that claims to have powers. lol. DJO HAS PUSHED JX ALL GAME LONG HOW CAN THEY BE SCUMTEAM?!!? Anyone that's not Eywa. Eywa / Kush scumteam. Kush has done nothing this game besides push for the lynch of Djo and hard defend Eywa. This fakeclaim bullshit shouldn't instantly make him town. Both Eywa and Kush fit the profile of not wanting to lynch DYH. Kush hard defends Eywa, and attacks Djo for acting the SAME exact way he was during the lynch. Kush never pushes Eywa despite him doing the exact same "scummy things" as JieXian. I can't emphasize how badly I think they are scumteam. Eywa / JX makes sense, so does Kush / Eywa. Gotta lynch me a Eywa today. I can't put together any scumteam that excludes Eywa. My vote stays. I'll go Kush if possible, but Eywa is friggen 100% scum. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Eywa EYWA + KUSH SCUMTEAM DIE DIE DIE Ask me anything about this scumteam right here. I've got more ammo in the chamber for any questions. Kill them. Look how excited he is. "THIS IS THE SCUM TEAM GG", "DIE DIE DIE". He's excited to play mafia, more evident by the fact that he posts nonstop. He makes the infrequent long post like the one above calling out his reads. He helps and contributes, and most importantly he speaks exactly what is on his mind. He was never afraid to post before, yet this game he is. Mr. Cheesecake is mafia. I will sheep this case as it is a completely accurate assessment of CC's play this game and his play in other games I have played with him and obs'd. Foolish I will ask you a question though, what made you want to lynch Marv day 1? Was it a town read on BC or an honest scum read on Marv? | ||
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yamato77
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Palmar seems content to have his own opinion ignored for the rest of the game. Is he defeated like I feel because all of his reads were wrong or is he just playing it off as an excuse to do nothing? I'm more likely to believe the former. Wrong=/=scum. People I would lynch tomorrow CC- foolishness' case is indicative of my own feelings about CC this game and is an accurate assessment of his meta. I have played two complete games with CC and this game is different in a way that can only be described as scummy. MZ - both Marv and BC (both of which are experienced town players) had a strong scum read on this guy. I don't think he's done anything meaningful this game and I doubt he will. Hopeless - I had a scummy feeling early day 1 and I should have held on to it. I will take a more prolonged look at his filter later to get a better read Debears - this game he is completely devoid of his classic townie aggression and hasn't scumhunted AT ALL. This dude is scum. | ||
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yamato77
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The next time I get included in a scum read list with zero justification I am lynching that person. | ||
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yamato77
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I didn't read the quote hah. Never mind | ||
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yamato77
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On January 08 2013 06:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Debears I think all your hatred of Vivax is reactionary To expand upon this, the reason I wanted to lynch him in YANMM where he flipped SK was because he was playing a very OMGUSy game. This, again, does not look like town debears. | ||
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yamato77
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On January 08 2013 06:44 debears wrote: Yamato, you still do not know my meta at all. Please stop acting like you do. Do you want me to point out all the times I've OMGUS'd in my town games? Last game you played like this you flipped SK bro. Lynch the scum, don't OMGUS people who are townies. Neither Vivax or LM looks scummy to me. | ||
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yamato77
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Both of them are active and invested in figuring the game out. The fact that they land upon you as a scum read just as I do is not surprising debears. | ||
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On January 08 2013 07:46 debears wrote: He immediately agreed the case was good. did not point out any flaws. Now, he's like "oh, parts were bad but it's still a good case." that is not town mindset. It shows he was not willing to even look up the quality of the case. Now that I've pointed out how shitty the case is, he says it has bad parts with it being good, despite the lengthy write up i made on it. Laser is scum I doubt that. | ||
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yamato77
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On January 09 2013 09:49 Promethelax wrote: + Show Spoiler [rant] + well okay, you are wrong but you can choose to believe that. I'm honestly pretty pissed at this game. As I was saying to clarity (I think) earlier everyone not playing and just fucking off is the exact opposite of fun for me. I agreed to replace in to this game because I hate games that are ruined for the players because of modkills/people giving not shits etc. I had the misfortune to replace into a situation where I get to be one of those players whose game is ruined. Now not only am I giving up what little free time I have right now for this game the game is also hardly worth playing because so many players are doing nothing but shoving their heads as deeply into their assholes as possible. Multiple people are asking to be lynched. I don't understand how you can be enjoying this game when there are people doing that. I honestly can't. As Supersoft was saying I play this game for fun as a hobby. But this game (through no fault of Kurumi's) is not fun. Too many people are not trying and I have to try to distinguish between scum and terrible players who just get bored after three seconds and decide to stop playing. I don't have the time to try to sort through the filters of thirty guys who are not playing the game. If this was a mini with people playing I'd be doing my level best but at this point my level best is not rage-quitting. I'm sorry that I am adding to the problem in this game, maybe I should have let Tunkeg been modkilled and not joined when I didn't have the time I need to devote to a big game but I thought I would be doing something I love to do instead of suffering through pages of tripe created by people too fucking stupid to count to two. I am genuinely and totally livid at the players in this game. It is pretty clear to me that after this and MTG II (which I am really looking forward to) I will be taking a break to avoid some of the players in this game and my last one. I can't deal with this level of fucking awful from people who know better. Anyways, sorry for the rant Thrawn and anyone else who bothered to read it. I think both CC and Dibbers are scum. I think CC is scum because of his clear give no fucks attitude that doesn't even reflect anger at this game full of terrible play, as scum I'd be basking too. I think Dibbers is scum because his shitty scum play is identical to YAN where he was SK. He is a much better town player than what he is being right now and based on recent performance I'd say he went to the Sandroba School for Retardedly Bad Scum Players. If there weren't so many shitty players here I'd put Palmar up for lynch for going after 1. marv 2. BC 3. WBG d1 when all three have flipped town. As Palmar says day one is his day (he has told me this out of game before now too so I believe it) he should have managed to pursue at least one scum but he failed not once but thrice. That isn't what I have come to expect from town Palmar and it should set alarm bells ringing in your head but since we have so many players outright claiming scum in the thread (Palmar, Dibbers, VE, etc) I can't just lynch on that. So I have to lynch the guys who look scummier than a day one Palmar who tunneled three different vet townies. SCUMMIER THAN A PALMAR WHO TUNNELED THREE TOWNIES ON DAY ONE! Can you even comprehend how stupid that sentence should be. Prom is officially my mouth piece in the thread. I will lynch whoever he wants to, because he's pointed out the same things I have. ##Vote Debears If anyone has questions for me I will answer them. | ||
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