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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 07 2013 20:45 GMT
#2985
oh are those town reads, those looked null to me. I didn't realize that barely green was a town read. I guess you and I define those differently.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 07 2013 20:46 GMT
#2986
On January 08 2013 05:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
How is Prom town Hiro? He hasn't done shit this game but calling everyone retarded for no reason.


you are retarded.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 07 2013 20:56 GMT
#2988
It was obvious. The sentence he said should not have meant anything other than what I said. I'm glad you asked though because Dibbers answer is fascinating actually.

Look it doesn't benefit town for us to get in a flame war. I'm sorry, and I was wrong.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 07 2013 20:59 GMT
#2990
Don't be a stupid Sent. I'm not scum. You and I are more similar than you think.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 07 2013 21:08 GMT
#2992
Yep, and I don't have time. I'm sitting in class and typing notes in one window and reading the thread in the other. But I play town by being involved and asking questions. I don't like to sit down and make huge cases, I'll do it once in a while but I like to find scum intuitively. And don't tell me it doesn't work. It does.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 08 2013 06:31 GMT
#3113
On January 08 2013 06:47 Djodref wrote:
@ Prox

If you are around, I would like to know what you think of debears

sorry bro, I wasn't around but dibbers is swimming in scummy.

On January 08 2013 07:42 yamato77 wrote:
Debears you are bad. A good case can have bad parts.



On January 08 2013 07:46 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 07:42 yamato77 wrote:
Debears you are bad. A good case can have bad parts.


He immediately agreed the case was good. did not point out any flaws. Now, he's like "oh, parts were bad but it's still a good case."

that is not town mindset. It shows he was not willing to even look up the quality of the case. Now that I've pointed out how shitty the case is, he says it has bad parts with it being good, despite the lengthy write up i made on it.

Laser is scum


You don't even read the name of the guy you are talking to. Sure. Scum.
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Promethelax
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Canada7089 Posts
January 08 2013 06:33 GMT
#3114
Thrawn this is my fourth game replacing in as town on d1/d2 and I was always replacing for a townie under suspicion. So I asked.

Did you read YAN?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 00:22 GMT
#3253
Not that I have been a shining beacon of townieness this game but CC and Dibbers are both oozing red from their pores. I don't even understand how a single person can be so scummy much less two people. I would rather lynch CC over Dibbers I think though I'm torn honestly. They both look so damn red.

I think I would take Dibbers over CC, he seems more controversial and I'm more interested in what people say about him than I am about CC. CC is an easy lynch and while that could easily be because he is scum I'd rather lynch Dibbers who, I think, is also scum and should make people take some actual stances.

Also, I know people seem to think that calling people retards is my thing (I'm not Bugs guys) but Kush is either retarded or scum (or the not unlikely both option).
On January 08 2013 16:51 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 15:31 Promethelax wrote:
You don't even read the name of the guy you are talking to. Sure. Scum.

shit like this doesn't seem like something you would say in a town game


I mean, first of all someone not caring enough to read the one post between their post and their next post is scummy as shit when they are trying to prove that someone is scum. And second of all Kush has no idea what the fuck he is saying, he is just copying Thrawn to look kinda useful and I wish that was a scum tell for Kush but it isn't. The guy is just dumb.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 00:24 GMT
#3254
On January 09 2013 09:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 15:33 Promethelax wrote:
Thrawn this is my fourth game replacing in as town on d1/d2 and I was always replacing for a townie under suspicion. So I asked.

Did you read YAN?


just read through it now.... what was I supposed to see?

I see that a few times you reference not being fully caught up on the thread and you give some activity excuses here and there... that's not what the problem is this game. you don't seem in any way committed to this thread, especially considering that you are yourself. your YAN filter looks townie despite whatever your activity was like


Not activity bro. You said I, as town, didn't call people retards and ask questions that Yamato thinks are useless when that is the totality of my filter in YAN (or so I'm told by Yamato). I spent a lot of time in YAN calling retards retards for being retards. I just don't see how that is something I wouldn't say as a townie since I just fucking did in the last week.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 00:49 GMT
#3260
+ Show Spoiler [rant] +
well okay, you are wrong but you can choose to believe that. I'm honestly pretty pissed at this game. As I was saying to clarity (I think) earlier everyone not playing and just fucking off is the exact opposite of fun for me. I agreed to replace in to this game because I hate games that are ruined for the players because of modkills/people giving not shits etc. I had the misfortune to replace into a situation where I get to be one of those players whose game is ruined. Now not only am I giving up what little free time I have right now for this game the game is also hardly worth playing because so many players are doing nothing but shoving their heads as deeply into their assholes as possible.

Multiple people are asking to be lynched. I don't understand how you can be enjoying this game when there are people doing that. I honestly can't. As Supersoft was saying I play this game for fun as a hobby. But this game (through no fault of Kurumi's) is not fun. Too many people are not trying and I have to try to distinguish between scum and terrible players who just get bored after three seconds and decide to stop playing. I don't have the time to try to sort through the filters of thirty guys who are not playing the game. If this was a mini with people playing I'd be doing my level best but at this point my level best is not rage-quitting. I'm sorry that I am adding to the problem in this game, maybe I should have let Tunkeg been modkilled and not joined when I didn't have the time I need to devote to a big game but I thought I would be doing something I love to do instead of suffering through pages of tripe created by people too fucking stupid to count to two.

I am genuinely and totally livid at the players in this game. It is pretty clear to me that after this and MTG II (which I am really looking forward to) I will be taking a break to avoid some of the players in this game and my last one. I can't deal with this level of fucking awful from people who know better.


Anyways, sorry for the rant Thrawn and anyone else who bothered to read it.

I think both CC and Dibbers are scum.

I think CC is scum because of his clear give no fucks attitude that doesn't even reflect anger at this game full of terrible play, as scum I'd be basking too.

I think Dibbers is scum because his shitty scum play is identical to YAN where he was SK. He is a much better town player than what he is being right now and based on recent performance I'd say he went to the Sandroba School for Retardedly Bad Scum Players.

If there weren't so many shitty players here I'd put Palmar up for lynch for going after 1. marv 2. BC 3. WBG d1 when all three have flipped town. As Palmar says day one is his day (he has told me this out of game before now too so I believe it) he should have managed to pursue at least one scum but he failed not once but thrice. That isn't what I have come to expect from town Palmar and it should set alarm bells ringing in your head but since we have so many players outright claiming scum in the thread (Palmar, Dibbers, VE, etc) I can't just lynch on that. So I have to lynch the guys who look scummier than a day one Palmar who tunneled three different vet townies. SCUMMIER THAN A PALMAR WHO TUNNELED THREE TOWNIES ON DAY ONE! Can you even comprehend how stupid that sentence should be.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 00:50 GMT
#3261
## Vote Dibbers
cause he is scum
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 01:09 GMT
#3266
Asking to be lynched is what I mean. In any reasonable game I would lynch you for that (counter-intuitive I know) but I don't have that ability here because there are so many people doing the same thing.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 01:11 GMT
#3268
how about hiring a dude with a baseball bat to go to his house and break his knees until he provides them? Unscrupulous sure, but you can't argue with results as that one president used to say.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 01:19 GMT
#3272
Nope, I don't think you are scum. I think asking to be lynched should make you scum in a game without a jester. Call it a personal policy.

You are right though, you didn't claim scum you said
On January 06 2013 07:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, I don't fucking get it. People bitch that I post too much, but bitch about what I post. No one fucking listens to me, so what is the point of even playing? I post less, people call me lurky.

Fuck this place. Fuck all of you.

and
On January 06 2013 07:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: VisceraEyes


What Kei? Couldn't hear you over the sound of me playing against my win condition.

and
On January 06 2013 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you love me....set me free....


The way I see it is the only way for this to be playing to your win con is if you are scum trying hard to look too scummy to be scum. But townies do this shit too. I just find it inexcusable and it is one of the plays this game that makes this particular game not fun for me.
I like you a lot usually and I enjoy reading games you are in, I was excited to replace in and play with you and Bugs and Palmar and Marv and Fool and BC and Supersoft and Jackal and Sent and other guys who I have read games of but never played with or who I really respect. Unfortunately instead of getting to play with them half of these players have been as useless as tits on a toaster and the other half have been too busy yelling at the first half to do anything.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 01:20 GMT
#3274
Wait yam, you are sheeping me instead of tunneling me? are you ill or something?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 01:31 GMT
#3279
On January 09 2013 10:24 Djodref wrote:
I also don't think VE is scum. The feeling I got while reading him is different from what I get in his scum games.
He is more active and seems really emotionally involved. I also think he enjoys playing scum so he wouldn't really care about the thread atmosphere and/or the rules so much as scum.


That isn't a town tell with VE. Like myself he prefers being scum (or so I'm told) and he plays active and involved as either alignment.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 01:42 GMT
#3285
On January 09 2013 10:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 10:31 Promethelax wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:24 Djodref wrote:
I also don't think VE is scum. The feeling I got while reading him is different from what I get in his scum games.
He is more active and seems really emotionally involved. I also think he enjoys playing scum so he wouldn't really care about the thread atmosphere and/or the rules so much as scum.


That isn't a town tell with VE. Like myself he prefers being scum (or so I'm told) and he plays active and involved as either alignment.

You prefer being scum?

The fuck?


Yes I do, it is my wits against towns instead of me trying to figure out which retards are on my team. Though I haven't had the good fortune to be scum since my newbies. Imp is right, I was the towniest mother fucker in XIX. Yam, you aren't a fucking rock, you just got out of a town game where I bitched about town. You really think I don't do that? I distinctly remember you trying to pin terrible cases on me for just that behaviour.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 01:42 GMT
#3286
On January 09 2013 10:42 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 10:39 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:36 iamperfection wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:32 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:31 Promethelax wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:24 Djodref wrote:
I also don't think VE is scum. The feeling I got while reading him is different from what I get in his scum games.
He is more active and seems really emotionally involved. I also think he enjoys playing scum so he wouldn't really care about the thread atmosphere and/or the rules so much as scum.


That isn't a town tell with VE. Like myself he prefers being scum (or so I'm told) and he plays active and involved as either alignment.

You prefer being scum?

The fuck?

go read his first game he looks more town in that game then when he actually is town

I read one of his scum games and it looks a lot like his play this game, IMO.

He whines about town A LOT as scum. Like, a lot.

But his reads agree with mine so I'm willing to lynch one.

well if you think he is scum go for it but i don't think you should be sheeping him if you do....

i am not qualified to read prom because i just always think he is scum in every game i have played with him so i abstain from commenting on him but ill comment on anything else.


I'm your Hapa?! I didn't know that. <3
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 01:51 GMT
#3290
The distinct possibility that Fool is being useless intentionally to avoid the NK so he can solve the game later?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 09 2013 01:57 GMT
#3294
On January 09 2013 10:52 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 10:51 Promethelax wrote:
The distinct possibility that Fool is being useless intentionally to avoid the NK so he can solve the game later?


wtf, complete speculation.... is this a serious defense?


nope. But it is the only thing I could think of that seems like a possibility if Fool is town. He won't break the game for scum and I'd prefer to lynch other guys I read as scum who have never come into a game and saved it by themselves as town. Fool needs to be up for lynch but I'd argue that we can wait for tomorrow. If he is town he is really good town and scum need him dead. They'll either NK him or day vig him if he is town. Leaving him and Palmar alive is a terrible plan as scum even if they are both being useless now. If they are scum they'll keep being useless and we can lynch them later. Lynching scum Dibbers is exactly as good for us as lynching scum Foolishness.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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