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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 10:43 GMT
#1331
On January 04 2013 19:40 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 19:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
EBWOP: Besides, is there any argument for NOT showing the logs, given that they have already claimed?

Do you want scum knowing your thoughts on every player?
Fair enough, I'm just being stupid. Still, if Palmar is about to get lynched I'd say that it is the correct decision to show the logs.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 10:47 GMT
#1333
On January 04 2013 19:45 wherebugsgo wrote:
Palmar has no case on marv, that's probably why he spent 5 minutes trolling you with that and then switched off to attacking Meapak.

Clearly it's working.
time will tell, I guess.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 10:59 GMT
#1336
On January 04 2013 19:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
what time? You think he has a case on marv when he easily could've just posted it? We have less than 15 hours left in the day, we don't have time for these pointless antics.
To be fair, it is now less than one hour from the time when he said he had Marv as scum read. I'm willing to give him a little bit more time. If he doesn't start playing the game in the very near future, I will vote him, deal?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 11:19 GMT
#1338
I was just about writing a case on you sentinel : S.

I like your points on Clarity, tho I don't find them as lynch worthy as Palmar.

Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 11:35 GMT
#1346
Yhea, I can vote Marv.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 12:21 GMT
#1410
On January 04 2013 21:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 20:35 Lazermonkey wrote:
Yhea, I can vote Marv.


given you're voting me, you best tell me exactly what you like about the case and why you're voting me. this won't fly.
I like the part where you aren't really scum scum hunting despite being one of the strongest players in the game. Like honestly, your strongest scum read this far has been Palmar and taht is because he is trolling.

I took a quick look at Rock Band Mafia, and there is a clear diference in game play. Very early on in the game you are pushing for scum and questioning stuff. You even vote just some hours in. In this game you are simply questioning stuff, but you aren't following it up with a case or a vote or w/e.

Also, after Palmar posted logs I was truly convinced that he was town. Everything seemed very geniune. So I am sure that he is town that is at least trying to hunt for scum.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 12:37 GMT
#1414
On January 04 2013 21:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm saying it's weird for a scum marv who isn't invested to exclaim that he is, because a scum marv who isn't invested knows his filter will show him as not invested.
I think it makes a bit sense. but it is grasping at straws imo.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 13:24 GMT
#1433
I'm quite busy atm, will answer everything in about one hour. Hold on Vivax ; )
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 14:19 GMT
#1452
On January 04 2013 22:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 20:55 Lazermonkey wrote:
*snip*
Things I hold against Hopeless
1.His reaction here
On January 03 2013 12:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2013 11:45 yamato77 wrote:
On January 03 2013 11:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2013 11:38 yamato77 wrote:
What does anything these good mafia players say in the early game mean?

They basically just post to post. The only alignment indicative things they do in the game is lynch people.

Or rather, try to lynch townies. This post is useless, quite like your suspicions against me. What would you like to hear from me yamato?

Do you have any thoughts about the game that don't involve policy lynches?

yeah, palmar looks more like scum to me than town, but again, not willing to lynch into him. Toad also looks scummy because he's spewing nonsense and then telling me I'm dumb for taking him even remotely seriously. In the event that I manage to get lynched, he plays the "guys it was Day 1 I was just joking around" card.

Toad's last post isn't particularly alignment indicative, and while a nice sentiment (no town reads), it ultimately lends more to my confirmation bias that he isn't actually helping town this game, he`s just posting and being active.

2. The fact that he has posted quite a bit but yet taken a strong stance anywhere.

I have a hard time seeing how town Hopeless would react in such a way, while I can see several reasons for scum Hopeless to do so.


Lazer, what did you find scummy about Hopeless' reaction at that time? Y'know, point 1.
Because he was talking about what would happend if he got lynched even though it was just a few hours in and he wasn't even close to getting lynched at the time. I just feel that this is something a scum could say as an overreaction. Also, like I mentioned earlier, I played some time ago with Hopeless as scum and me as town where he did a similar thing. Overreacting like crazy to a post of Hapa.

On January 04 2013 21:49 Vivax wrote:
I refuse to believe that iamp is town. Looking through posts and chats again, I could very well imagine him being a scum mason. Palmar essentially got persuaded by WIFOMING about the possible benefits of sacrificing KP for masoning in favour of iamp.
I will judge him by his play, not by this, so he doesn't get all lazy and cosy.


@ Lazer, how do you go from "I will lynch Palmar if he doesn't show these logs" to "Yhea, I can vote marv?".
Do you have arguments of your own for voting marv?

Or @ everyone: When was the last time Lazermonkey pushed a lynch of his own?
I don't see that as a problem in any way TBH. I was quite sceptic about Palmar as you already pointed out but his logs seemed extremly genuine. Palmar is my strongest town read atm. Reason I voted Marv is that the case on him was good. I hadn't looked into him earlier because this is a 30 player game so I simply will not have the motivation to go through 30 players filter every day. With that being said, I agreed with basically everything Palmar said. No I don't have any arguments of my own regarding Marv but I fail to see how that is relevant.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 14:42 GMT
#1466
On January 04 2013 23:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
palmar has a good case on marv and i want to sheep it but bleh... lots of stuff in that case could be said about amlmost everyone in the thread and i kinda want to attribute marv's laziness to the general laziness of the thread and keep him around longer

lazermonkey scum
No I'm not. Your case on me is crap.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 14:52 GMT
#1484
On January 04 2013 23:47 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:45 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2013 23:41 iamperfection wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote:
you should join the wagon of justice as well debars


Can we please keep CC around til at least day 2? I love the kid. He's so funny


Nope. All serious biz this game. Lynch me Dibbers c'mon.

hey you haven't tried to hunt scum at all.

What have you to say to this accusation?


It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too.

Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work.

you know i fell asleep waiting and woke up and i am still waiting


yep, Cheescake is also a good lynch. Either cheesecake or Adam are good lynches today.

marv should live if he wants to help kill cheesecake. Plus when marv was ousted as scum in gsl he just shat up the thread with his accuser he did not do that here he droped reads with reasoning and logic.

He can live in my book
Didn't he get lynched in that game though...? Because that would be quite a good reason to change his scum-in-shitty-position meta, don't you think?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 14:57 GMT
#1492
On January 04 2013 23:45 Vivax wrote:
I don't like the reason why you found Hopeless scummy lazer, using little things like that to push a lynch is not a good idea.
But the fact that you didn't try to make something up for sheeping the case on marv reeks townie to me.

Here, have some slack.

The marv wagon is retarded though.

Who's in for lynching Kush? His comeback seems too convenient, what about his Cheesecake, hopeless and HiroPro reads? There would be enough resonance for those lynches, why doesn't he attempt to push them and instead sheeps Palmar mindlessly?
Lynching kush is about the worst we can do at this point IMO.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 15:00 GMT
#1496
Hmm, fair enough points... I must rethink this a bit.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 15:02 GMT
#1503
WIFOM INC

What if Marv and Iamperfection are scumbros? Food for thought...

END OF WFIOM
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 15:04 GMT
#1507
On January 04 2013 23:45 Vivax wrote:
I don't like the reason why you found Hopeless scummy lazer, using little things like that to push a lynch is not a good idea.
But the fact that you didn't try to make something up for sheeping the case on marv reeks townie to me.

Here, have some slack.

The marv wagon is retarded though.

Who's in for lynching Kush? His comeback seems too convenient, what about his Cheesecake, hopeless and HiroPro reads? There would be enough resonance for those lynches, why doesn't he attempt to push them and instead sheeps Palmar mindlessly?
Why is the wagon retarded?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 15:05 GMT
#1510
Lol that timing Vivax XD. Same for you, my dear friend!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 15:06 GMT
#1513
On January 05 2013 00:04 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 23:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 04 2013 23:45 Vivax wrote:
I don't like the reason why you found Hopeless scummy lazer, using little things like that to push a lynch is not a good idea.
But the fact that you didn't try to make something up for sheeping the case on marv reeks townie to me.

Here, have some slack.

The marv wagon is retarded though.

Who's in for lynching Kush? His comeback seems too convenient, what about his Cheesecake, hopeless and HiroPro reads? There would be enough resonance for those lynches, why doesn't he attempt to push them and instead sheeps Palmar mindlessly?
Lynching kush is about the worst we can do at this point IMO.


It's nice that you bring up your reasoning for whatever you say.
AFAIK, this is how kush plays as town so lynching him for it is bad.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 15:54 GMT
#1555
thrawn, your case is just sooo bad. I don't know what to say even. Like you point out several things but HOW do them make me scummy? Like all your points are based on very extreme WIFOM.

I never said my vote is useless. It is however not very usefull when it's 45 hours untill lynch and I'm the only one that's voting the person.

the phrasing thing is not a proof of anything really.

Firstly, how was my push against Tunkeg OMGUS? You then say that it is scummy that I first tell everyone that I'm going to check Tunkeg's meta before doing it. Well, it isn't.

My grush/kush policy thing was hardly serious.

You say I'm trying to bandwagon but that's also massive WIFOM. Maybe I'm just town who reconsider.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 15:57 GMT
#1560
Agree with kush/thrawn on the CC. He can just as well be a lazy townie.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 04 2013 16:00 GMT
#1566
On January 05 2013 00:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 00:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
thrawn, your case is just sooo bad. I don't know what to say even. Like you point out several things but HOW do them make me scummy? Like all your points are based on very extreme WIFOM.

I never said my vote is useless. It is however not very usefull when it's 45 hours untill lynch and I'm the only one that's voting the person.

the phrasing thing is not a proof of anything really.

Firstly, how was my push against Tunkeg OMGUS? You then say that it is scummy that I first tell everyone that I'm going to check Tunkeg's meta before doing it. Well, it isn't.

My grush/kush policy thing was hardly serious.

You say I'm trying to bandwagon but that's also massive WIFOM. Maybe I'm just town who reconsider.

Shit, you found me...
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