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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 07 2013 00:51 GMT
#2861
On January 07 2013 09:40 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:09 Djodref wrote:
On January 07 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
debears you still on? have anything to say about my djo case?

specifically the scumslip part


It's not a scumslip. I've already addressed it. Do you have any problems with how I've addressed it ?


On January 07 2013 07:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 07 2013 06:52 Djodref wrote:
@ thrawn

Regarding my 'scumslip', I know that kush isn't bussing because he changed his mind about Cheesecake at some point (or some other player, I don't remember exactly). Also he didn't give any reason for why marv was scum, even a small quote or anything like that. Even if at the time we didn't know marv's alignment, I know that kush uses his extra-knowledge as scum. He wouldn't drop a read because he would be right about CC from the beginning. He would give a small indication why marv would have been scum as well. Just like in WitchCraft when he was nit-picking my post to show the juicy part to you.


but cc hasn;t flipped yet, you are saying cc is town?

say some more stuff about kush changing his mind on whatever player you're talking about



First of all, I'm not saying thet CC is town or scum here.
If kush knew CC's alignment, kush wouldn't have backed up. My point is that scum kush knows everybody alignment, and plays in consequence. At that time, if he knew that CC was town or scum, he would have defended him from the beginning or bus him from the beginning and wouldn't have changed his mind.



You are basing a freaking meta town read on his reaction to one person?


Fuuu
I was answering thrawn about a 'scumslip' I had apparently made.
And yes, I think I understand kush scum meta enough to derive a slight town read on him from something like that. But the main point is that scum kush would have never attacked town marv, even if it was not not subject here.
After Witchcraft Mini where we were playing scum together, I understood how kush is playing scum. You can ask him if I'm right or not about this

Also I don't understand why you still want to lynch me. My excuses for not being active until now are legit.
And you know I'm active as scum.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
January 07 2013 01:04 GMT
#2862
On January 07 2013 04:56 iamperfection wrote:
@cheznu
Listin to me

You obviously have some need to try to explain yourself or whatever it is but why not a simple direct explanation of what you want or seek.

Why these games?


What if the games are just used to pass time, because I really have nothing to say. Plus, it amusing. Though, it is not always fun for all. It seems everyone thinks I'm town because I'm playing my games. So, I will continue on. Oh and if mafia start accusing me, beware: Chezinu is a big fluffy animal. I pretends to be more powerful than I really am. So you better what out for my fluff. It could hurts you... or maybe its really cushioning and soft.

Yeah... I'm just waiting for the next day to arrive.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 07 2013 01:20 GMT
#2863
despite foolishness's "case" on Mr. CC and somewhat uptick in activity i am not convinced at all of his alignment as town no matter what CC flips. I think its an almost certainty that Mr. CC will flip scum at this point but it say nothing about foolishness.

He still has overall been severely disconnected from the comings and going of the thread.

His contributions have been to go after the easy target of tube who everyone in the thread wanted dead and to make a case on Mr. CC in which i was able to point out from day one that Mr CC didnt care who gets lynched. Folishness just added to the case and made it nice and pretty for us to all ohhhh and awww at but it wasnt even neccessary a ton of people have been suspicios of CC and including the towniest player in the game + Show Spoiler +
thats me in case your wondering
His case was overkill and unnecessary considering the circumstances.

Overall if Mr cc flips scum still be suspicious of folishness and expect him to contribute a lot more if he is in fact town.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 07 2013 01:22 GMT
#2864
On January 07 2013 10:04 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 04:56 iamperfection wrote:
@cheznu
Listin to me

You obviously have some need to try to explain yourself or whatever it is but why not a simple direct explanation of what you want or seek.

Why these games?


What if the games are just used to pass time, because I really have nothing to say. Plus, it amusing. Though, it is not always fun for all. It seems everyone thinks I'm town because I'm playing my games. So, I will continue on. Oh and if mafia start accusing me, beware: Chezinu is a big fluffy animal. I pretends to be more powerful than I really am. So you better what out for my fluff. It could hurts you... or maybe its really cushioning and soft.

Yeah... I'm just waiting for the next day to arrive.

you just hop on in whenever you feel like contributing if not i see nothing but a noose in your future.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 07 2013 02:21 GMT
#2865
On January 07 2013 06:46 Djodref wrote:
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On January 07 2013 06:21 slOosh wrote:
On January 07 2013 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
On January 07 2013 06:10 Djodref wrote:
@ iamp

Are you still around ? I think I have an explanation why mafia tried to shoot you at night !
Look at this

1 KP -> one dayvig shooting WBG
1 KP -> one dayvig shooting Keir
0.5 KP -> MZ is mason
remaining 0.5 KP rounded to 1 KP -> shoot iamp at night !

The remaining KP gets rounded, that's what we were missing !

Is that even how it works?

If the mafia use 2.5 of their kp on abilities can the remaining .5 be used to as normal kp since it would be rounded up?

Yes.


@ iamp

So what to you think about this ?
MZ is scum mason, hoping that the KP usage for the masonry gets unnoticed because of this trick.
That's why you got shot at night and not by a dayvig !

i would like to see the logs so i could judge for myself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 07 2013 02:39 GMT
#2866
On January 07 2013 08:07 Palmar wrote:
did jackal flip yet?

You gotta wait a day yet Juliet.
Life can only kill you once.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 08:27 GMT
#2867
This whole mafia kp thing is just explained poorly.
I was under the impression that when there's mafia left they still have 3 kp, hence
Mafia KP is # of Mafia /2 rounded up. There are 6 members of Mafia, starting KP is equal to 3.

Hurr durr 5/2 = 2.5 which rounded up is 3.
Now apparantly after scum uses kp it gets rounded up.... but only when they are down to 0.5 kp...... then they can suddenly use nightkill....... Never is this stated anywhere.
/rant

Djo your theory for mz being scum mason is possible but we know nothing, his claim was weird as fuck and also half assed and makes no sense as either alignment to me. Everything else points to scum.
Cheese is, as iamp said, basically guaranteed scum at this point,

I still want Palmar lynched, but since we'll drop mafia kp down to two if we lynch scum tomorrow it's probably best to go with cheese, and figure out wtf is going on with mz.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 08:28 GMT
#2868
5 mafia left*
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 07 2013 09:21 GMT
#2869
there is wierd stuff going on, thats correct.
i have some things in mind, but i need to talk to MZ first...
right now i struggle to believe that he's scum.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 10:00 GMT
#2870
This meta case on CC is quite crappy imo. Sure it doesn't match his town meta at all, I give you that. But how does it make him scum? You haven't compared the meta to his (only) scum game. I and find some quite big diferences in that as well. While he indeed isn't as posty as in his other games, its still an indication of how he plays and you can clearly see that he is acting like he is scum hunting very hard in that game in contrary to this one when he basically says: "yhea, haven't read, don't care".

Filter
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 07 2013 10:07 GMT
#2871
at least we have to discuss alternatives... that cannot hurt. i also think VE deserves a second look ;-o
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 10:10 GMT
#2872
Lazer, more telling I feel is that Cheese shows more interest in the game with no deadline than this one.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 10:13 GMT
#2873
discussion is good but the fact that half the thread is jumping on the CC wagon is alarming.

Supersoft, thoughts on CC?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 10:14 GMT
#2874
On January 07 2013 19:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
Lazer, more telling I feel is that Cheese shows more interest in the game with no deadline than this one.
What do you mean...?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 10:22 GMT
#2875
He's also in another game (British) and he shows more interest in that.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 10:31 GMT
#2876
On January 07 2013 19:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
He's also in another game (British) and he shows more interest in that.
I'm not sure I see that as alignment indicative TBH. But it sure isn't helping us.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#2877
What are all your thoughts on Promethelax?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 10:41 GMT
#2878
On January 07 2013 19:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 19:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
He's also in another game (British) and he shows more interest in that.
I'm not sure I see that as alignment indicative TBH. But it sure isn't helping us.


It shows he's not invested in this game which IS alignment indicative.

On January 07 2013 19:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
What are all your thoughts on Promethelax?


What are yours?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 10:47 GMT
#2879
On January 07 2013 19:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
What are all your thoughts on Promethelax?
I originally had a town read on him (tunkeg). I didn't really notice anything special about Prom when reading the thread, however, when I'm reading his filter I understand why. No scum hunting and he hasn't really taken a stance anywhere what so ever. And he has been in the game for almost 72 hours so there is no reason to doubt him for replacing into the game. He may very well be scum actually.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 10:49 GMT
#2880
On January 07 2013 19:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 19:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 07 2013 19:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
He's also in another game (British) and he shows more interest in that.
I'm not sure I see that as alignment indicative TBH. But it sure isn't helping us.


It shows he's not invested in this game which IS alignment indicative.
No, it just means that he is either lazy or scum.
He may be both.
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