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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22064 Posts
January 07 2013 16:02 GMT
#2901
On January 08 2013 00:57 iamperfection wrote:
Why do you think point 3 is scummy?


Thinking about it, you're right, it's actually more in the WIFOM category since we can't tell if intended or not, but I see it as belonging to the category of posts he's been making about votes, setup, policy. Fluff, that'd be, it fits so well in there it caught my attention.

On January 08 2013 00:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 00:51 Vivax wrote:

Alright, so iamp actually referenced MZ in reply to Hiros' statement that "he" doesn't seem to be reading the thread.
It's actually not evident at all who "He" is, in this part of the thread it's like impossible to know if the people talking are actually understanding each other.

And yet, debears was immediately satisfied with iamps' answer, even though to me it looks that iamp himself misunderstood who they were talking about. And that gives me reason to believe that debears wasn't interested in pursuing iamp in the first place, he was interested in making pseudo-cases.



can you explain this like i'm 5?


Debears hates your mommy, your daddy and you get ice cream for your vote.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
January 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#2902
On January 08 2013 00:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 00:51 Vivax wrote:

Alright, so iamp actually referenced MZ in reply to Hiros' statement that "he" doesn't seem to be reading the thread.
It's actually not evident at all who "He" is, in this part of the thread it's like impossible to know if the people talking are actually understanding each other.

And yet, debears was immediately satisfied with iamps' answer, even though to me it looks that iamp himself misunderstood who they were talking about. And that gives me reason to believe that debears wasn't interested in pursuing iamp in the first place, he was interested in making pseudo-cases.



can you explain this like i'm 5?

He is saying that at the time i actually misunderstood who was be talked about and if you look at it at the time it isnt clear who we are talking about at the time to anyone.

Then i answered debars suspicion and he immediately dropped suspicion based on my answer which makes no sense.

Also no matter who i was referencing it makes zero sense to say it makes me scum. I believe he said if i was refrencing supersoft it made me scum and he never explained why that would make me scum
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 07 2013 16:09 GMT
#2903
ooh vivax has convinced me with his case against debears.

On cheesecake, I am NOT convinced my foolishness' case.
-Cheesecake's lack of activity can be explained by the length of this game. Last game I played with him, he was afk for the first day. Imagine being afk for the first day in this game... you would be permanently behind unless you spent 4 hours reading 80 pages.
-The second part of foolishness' case had to do with cheesecake taunting people to lynch him. He also did this as town.

So debears lynch>cheesecake lynch tomrrow.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22064 Posts
January 07 2013 16:15 GMT
#2904
I am very curious about what VE is going to post next. CTRL-Fing his filter for debears brings up two posts. One to answer to a question actually directed at BC, and one to roleplay with debears.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 16:38 GMT
#2905
I don't believe #3 is wifom at all, in fact I think it is a point in favour of debears being town.

Vivax, Your case is quoting a bunch of posts and then giving a #. Summary
You don't explain why anything you're mentioning is scummy.

Debears jumped on something stupid iamp said because he had this complicated thing in his head that required iamp to be talking about supersoft, so he immediately jumped on him and asked, and then asked again, and was disappointed (or "satisfied" as you called it) when iamp said he wasn't. Again, this is a townie point in my eyes.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 16:41 GMT
#2906
I should explain that more.

Immediately jumping on someone and calling them scum when they say something is scummy in general.
Immediately jumping on someone to explain something because you have an idea, and then backing off when your idea doesn't fit, is townie in general.

Debears did the latter.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 07 2013 16:43 GMT
#2907
I see the #3 point as total wifom. I'd put it in the townie category really.

5 though is a big scum point. Those who played/saw YAN would know that Dibbers was found out very easily through the same pressure and drop of pressure. He was SK though and not scum.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 16:59 GMT
#2908
#5 would be a good scum point but the quotes provided aren't giving me a scumfind boner.
He wanted a votethread, this post was super early
He pointed out there have been lots of blue(claims), this is a point worth mentioning since it was in reply to mz claiming mason, which adds another blue if it were true.
The third is answering my question so dunno why that would be useless.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2013 17:01 GMT
#2909
On January 08 2013 00:58 Promethelax wrote:
I'd like to get palmar up for lynch tomorrow. If he is town he is right, we'll have one hell of an interesting day that we'll gain a ton from and, once again if he is town, I wouldn't be that surprised if he managed to evade the lynch.


I'm all for it.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 07 2013 17:03 GMT
#2910
I'm a fan of that case Vivax. Do you think debears makes a better lynch than MZ or Cheesecake?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2013 17:09 GMT
#2911
Let's make a scummy list with no explanations:


Lazermonkey
yamato77
Palmar
Vivax
Clarity_nl
iamperfection



[UoN]Sentinel
Foolishness
grush57
Promethelax
supersoft
froggynoddy


Toadesstern
Chezinu
thrawn2112
Djodref
debears
hopeless1der
kushm4sta
VisceraEyes
HiroPro


Meapak_Ziphh
Mr. Cheesecake
Computer says mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22064 Posts
January 07 2013 17:13 GMT
#2912
On January 08 2013 01:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
I should explain that more.

Immediately jumping on someone and calling them scum when they say something is scummy in general.
Immediately jumping on someone to explain something because you have an idea, and then backing off when your idea doesn't fit, is townie in general.

Debears did the latter.


The explanation was given by iamp himself, a debears suspecting iamp to be scum wouldn't have assumed that a scum iamp would tell him the truth, and immediately accept it as such.

To simplify: If a scumread of yours makes an unclear statement, and you ask for clarification, where one answer means he's scum and one means he's town, you're going to believe your read to be town just cause he answers with the obviously least scummy one?
I am assuming that a scum iamp would know that he can't know about a scum supersoft schedule as town.

Then, your heuristics are assuming that scum would be more busy making immediate cases than asking questions (which I think is more a matter of play-style).
By that logic debears is scum cause of his Tunkeg case anyway, so I don't understand why you are defending him, let him answer first or he'll be able to withhold answers while you act as his shield.

On January 08 2013 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm a fan of that case Vivax. Do you think debears makes a better lynch than MZ or Cheesecake?


Yes absolutely, I think it's good if I force you to bus your scumbuddy. Cheesecake looks like a bad townie this game, I will have to analyse his meta to know if that's really the case, MZ claimed that he'd be masoning supersoft, so I'm waiting for that to happen before deciding on him.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 07 2013 17:17 GMT
#2913
Well, in that case I'll vote for someone else OUT OF SPITE!

Sorry bro.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2013 17:18 GMT
#2914
On January 08 2013 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, in that case I'll vote for someone else OUT OF SPITE!

Sorry bro.


hey I'm terrible this game, why aren't you carrying it?
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 07 2013 17:20 GMT
#2915
On January 08 2013 02:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, in that case I'll vote for someone else OUT OF SPITE!

Sorry bro.


hey I'm terrible this game, why aren't you carrying it?

Hey I thought you were ignoring me. I liked that better.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 07 2013 17:21 GMT
#2916
And for the record, you'll NEVER get lynched before me!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 07 2013 17:24 GMT
#2917
It is disgusting that I can't get a town read on you for agreeing with 95% of my reads Palmar. Why you gotta be so good?

VE: Dibbers. Gogogo.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22064 Posts
January 07 2013 17:25 GMT
#2918
Palmar, you should take a look at CCs game as godfather. 8 pages filter, lots of announcement posts (going to eat, going to sleep etc.), he also cared more about the game than here, more nice, less martyr etc.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22064 Posts
January 07 2013 17:26 GMT
#2919
And fuck my life for defending a townie instead of leaving it to him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22064 Posts
January 07 2013 17:26 GMT
#2920
EBWOP: townread
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