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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 06 2013 23:07 GMT
#2841
did jackal flip yet?
Computer says mafia
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 06 2013 23:09 GMT
#2842
On January 07 2013 07:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Foolishness:
Can I assume that you think this activity tell makes Cheesecake a stronger candidate than MZ? From my perspective they both give equal (read: zero) shits about helping town.

What do you think about MZ?

Yes. I'm fine with Meapak dying but the case on Cheesecake is stronger. When I read Meapak's filter I get the sense that he might be bored (though I have no idea how you can be bored if you're a mason). But of course he's proven to be an active and aggressive player when he's town, and that's not what he's doing this game.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 06 2013 23:09 GMT
#2843
On January 07 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
debears you still on? have anything to say about my djo case?

specifically the scumslip part


It's not a scumslip. I've already addressed it. Do you have any problems with how I've addressed it ?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 06 2013 23:09 GMT
#2844
I quickly skimmed foolishness's contributions. I very much agree on his thoughts on Cheesecake. I would also support a lynch on MZ and I have serious concerns about VE.
Computer says mafia
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 06 2013 23:10 GMT
#2845
On January 07 2013 06:58 Foolishness wrote:
Here are two of his filter's from games when he is town:

Witchcraft MINI Mafia

Newbie MINI Mafia XXXII

The first thing one should immediately notice is the amount of times he's posting. In a 13 player game he had an outstanding 23 pages of filter. In a 9 player game (the Newbie game) he had 7 pages of filter in the first cycle (he was killed night 1). This is a guy who likes to post. He likes to be a Bill Murray or Coagulation. He wants to post and respond to everything that's going on. I shouldn't need to tell you that this game he hasn't even had a full page of posts yet.

Though his filter has been mostly one liners it's clear that he does not care about this game. His second most recent post is this:
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On January 04 2013 08:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote:
you should join the wagon of justice as well debars


Can we please keep CC around til at least day 2? I love the kid. He's so funny


Nope. All serious biz this game. Lynch me Dibbers c'mon.

hey you haven't tried to hunt scum at all.

What have you to say to this accusation?


It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too.

Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work.

And he never followed through on his "cooking up". He admitted in one of his earlier posts that he's not contributing:
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On January 04 2013 02:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Dat feel when waking up at noon. Perfection timing I guess. In b4 "omg active lurking"

Yes I'm not contributing.

@Anyone
who knows about Palmar

Does stupid / dick Palmar = scum Palmar? Totally cool if we're going to lynch him for trolling. It'd make waking up heck of a less daunting task.

Although I'm curious how my lynch wagon will air-out, I think it could produce some interesting results. Sheep the vote on me.

As for my vote today -- bouncing between Palmar (prolly not) and some random Bob in the lurking zone. Tunkeg's lynch I can't see being built around anything serious.

@VE


Did you seriously warrant my vote based on a pre-game comment? Hehehe. But yes, I did go to sleep. For like 12 hours it was pretty epic laziness.

Sheep my lynch guys, gogo.

But he hasn't done anything to try to redeem himself. He does not care. His taunting of us to sheep his lynch is also very disturbing. It doesn't accomplish anything for the town. He did it in the above post and in the following:
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On January 05 2013 03:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
##vote: marv

Because sheeping dibbers and phone posting / not reading thread. In b4 im scum.

What is the purpose of him doing that? It does nothing except draw attention away from himself. He doesn't want attention drawn to himself. He doesn't want anyone calling him out. He does it to make us scared of calling him scum. He wants out of the spotlight because he is mafia.

In the two games he was town I put above, you can clearly see how vested he is in the game. Take one of his posts from witchcraft mini
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On December 22 2012 07:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
THIS WAS TYPED UP QUICKLY, DON'T EXPECT TOO MUCH ORGANIZATION, BUT MY OPINION STANDS.

I'M ABOUT TO ASK KUSH TO VOTE JX WITH ME. HE KNOWS HE WILL FLIP TOWN. THEN TOWN LYNCHES ME / DJO = SCUMWIN.

IF KUSH VOTES WITH ME FOR JX -- EYWA / KUSH SCUMTEAM GG

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On December 22 2012 01:09 kushm4sta wrote:
cheesecake are you kidding me?
I made the best case in this game by far, and honestly it had nothing to do with my analysis or logic. The only contribution from me was actually going through his filter, because his quotes spoke for themselves..he is that fucking scummy.
If that wasn't enough, there's his reaction, which is basically a scumclaim. His personality changes entirely. He seems angry and panicked. I go from being not his top scumread before the case to being OMG MUST DESTROY after it.
The case is damning, like you said earlier, but its his reaction that makes him confirmed scum.

Cheesecake
I just realized that my defense of him was total balls. It was entirely based on the meta of his first mafia game. So on my agenda is a closer look at cheesecake, which will probably happen later in the day.



Don't flatter yourself. The only thing I saw was a meta case which was questionable and his reluctance to lynch DYH.

I truly believe Djo is Innocent, I cannot pair him up with a scumbuddy. Do JX / Eywa make sense? No, he's pushed for the lynch of JX hardcore and flamed with Eywa, who even called him part of the scumteam. Do I make sense? Yes, I do, but I'm town. Djo's only "scummy quality" is his reluctance to lynch DYH. That's it. If I recall, didn't KUSH actively attempt to PREVENT the DYH lynch?

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On December 20 2012 04:31 kushm4sta wrote:
DYH makes sense to me about Mr Z. Mr. Zs play is exactly how I play as scum.. a too scum to be scum mentality.
Like im gonna act so scum that everyone will think no scum would be dumb enough to act like this.

Not really that into lynching DYH today because he's not that much a lurker anymore, and his case against mr z looks good and another reason I'll get into later. ATM i want to look at mr z. brb after goign through his filter.


Trying to protect his scumbuddy.

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On December 20 2012 04:48 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck it.
I got a green check on dyh for scrying. could definitely still be scum but it's less likely. And his newer stuff does have more effort.


FAKECLAIM! Calling it right now. You want to know why he was SAFE to fakeclaim?
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On December 19 2012 05:58 kushm4sta wrote:
have people claimed witchcrafy yet?

also hapa do you know that you were shot


Nobody else claimed. He was trying to see if any town were empowered by witchcraft. Thrawn also was likely to be witchcrafted, since I think at least 2 people voted for him. He also knows that at least I voted for him. He is completely safe to make this fakeclaim -- A scry on DYH. And DYH just happened to be the priest, how convenient. The entire situation just seems to convenient for Kush.

He didn't even breadcrumb the god-damned check.

Then, he tries to push a mislynch, JX.
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On December 20 2012 05:42 kushm4sta wrote:
##vote jiexian
1 his cases are built on terrible terrible reasoning
2 he knew 100% morbidus wasn't scum..how could town know that??
3 extreme lack of content apart from 1 liners (even worse than me and I have 2 really good excuses)
4 process of elimination

He kind of reminds me of Dandelion scum.

I'd love to lynch djo but I don't think it's realistic today ;_;
I'm saving my sick case that will totally convince everyone for tomorrow. Cause there is just so much scumminess hidden in so much bullshit that it's going to take forever to compile all that shit.

On December 19 2012 00:18 JieXian wrote:
sorry for repeating myself but in the spirit of keeping things in 1 place,

thrawn's death solves his problem of having to deliver his promise = to push for him now

ok goodbye everyone going to practice.

Let's not forget hapa's blue shot thing. There's really no WIFOM case here, unlike thrawn's death.

Fact: Everyone thinks hapa and dp are a strong townie except for me and eywa given how they sheeped them and defended hapa when eywa had a case against him D1

Fact : People have voted for the strong townie - DP

Fact : the number of candidates are really small given the huge number of players who were considered lurkers, whom none trusts

Fact : Nobody can come up with a sensible advantage for mafia not to have vigi shot (and also NK) hapa



Look at his reasons for voting JX... 100% knew morb was town... SO DID EYWA. Cases built on terrible reasoning... EYWA MORESO. Why does he want to lynch JX over Eywa? Because he's his scumbuddy.

Look at his hard-defense of Eywa.
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On December 17 2012 14:32 kushm4sta wrote:
Exhibit A: Ewya's alleged scumslip
I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.

Exhibit B: In which Ewya says im town
On December 17 2012 11:46 Eywa- wrote:
Any scum would have to be out of their mind to side with me right now given how hot of a target I am... I don't see how it can help them... Kush is a civilian (but of course, you can lynch him too given that civilians seem to want to lose around here).


This is just one of many examples of his use of the word citizen.
Ewya says CITIZEN when he means town and TOWNIE when he means player.

Remember this is his first forum mafia game. The only experience he has had is IRL mafia.


Think about it: Does Kush EVER defend people like this? First time forum mafia game my ass, so what. Normal Kush wouldn't give a damn.

Kush's case on Djo is OKAY to say the least, but it hinges on only one thing: reluctance to lynch DYH. Kush was SO MUCH MORE reluctant, trying to push another mislynch, and only bussing at the very last second.


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On December 17 2012 11:16 kushm4sta wrote:
On December 17 2012 11:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 17 2012 11:11 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
lol Eywa so angry at life right now.

Everything is reading scummer

Not really, the majority has yet to agree with you.


And a single person has yet to agree with you...


I do. fuck off cheese. fuxk off hapa. fuck off thrawn.
kush and ewya townbros4life. we scumslip 2gether we die together


Why does he think Eywa is town?? Mad that he's getting pressured? Eywa Kush scumteam.
And look at this BS:
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On December 20 2012 07:49 kushm4sta wrote:
k this is pretty easy from here. I'm thinking jx djodrrff scumteam.
Naysayers prepare yourself for the sickest most convincing case ever tomorrow.
I know djodreffs scum meta very well and I know he is scum.

I voted thrawn, dp, mrz.


Let's see, everyone that is dead and someone that claims to have powers. lol.

DJO HAS PUSHED JX ALL GAME LONG HOW CAN THEY BE SCUMTEAM?!!? Anyone that's not Eywa. Eywa / Kush scumteam. Kush has done nothing this game besides push for the lynch of Djo and hard defend Eywa. This fakeclaim bullshit shouldn't instantly make him town.

Both Eywa and Kush fit the profile of not wanting to lynch DYH. Kush hard defends Eywa, and attacks Djo for acting the SAME exact way he was during the lynch.

Kush never pushes Eywa despite him doing the exact same "scummy things" as JieXian. I can't emphasize how badly I think they are scumteam. Eywa / JX makes sense, so does Kush / Eywa. Gotta lynch me a Eywa today.

I can't put together any scumteam that excludes Eywa. My vote stays. I'll go Kush if possible, but Eywa is friggen 100% scum.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Eywa

EYWA + KUSH SCUMTEAM DIE DIE DIE

Ask me anything about this scumteam right here. I've got more ammo in the chamber for any questions. Kill them.


Look how excited he is. "THIS IS THE SCUM TEAM GG", "DIE DIE DIE". He's excited to play mafia, more evident by the fact that he posts nonstop. He makes the infrequent long post like the one above calling out his reads. He helps and contributes, and most importantly he speaks exactly what is on his mind. He was never afraid to post before, yet this game he is.

Mr. Cheesecake is mafia.

I will sheep this case as it is a completely accurate assessment of CC's play this game and his play in other games I have played with him and obs'd.

Foolish I will ask you a question though, what made you want to lynch Marv day 1? Was it a town read on BC or an honest scum read on Marv?
Writer@WriterYamato
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 06 2013 23:11 GMT
#2846
On January 07 2013 08:09 Djodref wrote:
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On January 07 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
debears you still on? have anything to say about my djo case?

specifically the scumslip part


It's not a scumslip. I've already addressed it. Do you have any problems with how I've addressed it ?


On January 07 2013 07:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On January 07 2013 06:52 Djodref wrote:
@ thrawn

Regarding my 'scumslip', I know that kush isn't bussing because he changed his mind about Cheesecake at some point (or some other player, I don't remember exactly). Also he didn't give any reason for why marv was scum, even a small quote or anything like that. Even if at the time we didn't know marv's alignment, I know that kush uses his extra-knowledge as scum. He wouldn't drop a read because he would be right about CC from the beginning. He would give a small indication why marv would have been scum as well. Just like in WitchCraft when he was nit-picking my post to show the juicy part to you.


but cc hasn;t flipped yet, you are saying cc is town?

say some more stuff about kush changing his mind on whatever player you're talking about

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 06 2013 23:12 GMT
#2847
Also, I'm requesting that if people really want me dead that I'll be lynched and not shot, because I would like to engage in that conversation. I never go down quietly as town and making people work for my lynch will help immensely with the discussion on the day that will happen.

This is basically a request to hatters and vigis to leave me alone. Go after people who will never contribute to the game. Use your imagination. But I promise you, any bomb or shot on me is taking away from town what could be one of the most productive mislynch days ever.
Computer says mafia
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 06 2013 23:12 GMT
#2848
On January 07 2013 07:35 HiroPro wrote:
It helps if you read Toads post also.

I
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f I HAVE to deliver the KP, can I do other things as well? Example: 1KP left, I want to sac 0.5KP for a PR and still punch someone for 0.5KP worth of damage. Can I do both


Well, it looks like Toad had forgot he has asked this question because he didn't mention this when we were discussing why iamp had been shot at night and not by a day vig.
Why did you not make any comment on our discussion at that point ?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 06 2013 23:17 GMT
#2849
On January 07 2013 08:12 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 07:35 HiroPro wrote:
It helps if you read Toads post also.

I
f I HAVE to deliver the KP, can I do other things as well? Example: 1KP left, I want to sac 0.5KP for a PR and still punch someone for 0.5KP worth of damage. Can I do both


Well, it looks like Toad had forgot he has asked this question because he didn't mention this when we were discussing why iamp had been shot at night and not by a day vig.
Why did you not make any comment on our discussion at that point ?

I am not exactly reading right now. Jackal is getting lynched and while I know we should probably keep on scumhunting it's not going to happen :p

If you want something from me write Toad in tripple bold and make it big once. I'm pretty much only checking in every 4hours and do a quick look through.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 06 2013 23:20 GMT
#2850
On January 07 2013 08:09 Palmar wrote:
I quickly skimmed foolishness's contributions. I very much agree on his thoughts on Cheesecake. I would also support a lynch on MZ and I have serious concerns about VE.

What's wrong with VE?

On January 07 2013 08:10 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 06:58 Foolishness wrote:
Here are two of his filter's from games when he is town:

Witchcraft MINI Mafia

Newbie MINI Mafia XXXII

The first thing one should immediately notice is the amount of times he's posting. In a 13 player game he had an outstanding 23 pages of filter. In a 9 player game (the Newbie game) he had 7 pages of filter in the first cycle (he was killed night 1). This is a guy who likes to post. He likes to be a Bill Murray or Coagulation. He wants to post and respond to everything that's going on. I shouldn't need to tell you that this game he hasn't even had a full page of posts yet.

Though his filter has been mostly one liners it's clear that he does not care about this game. His second most recent post is this:
On January 04 2013 08:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote:
you should join the wagon of justice as well debars


Can we please keep CC around til at least day 2? I love the kid. He's so funny


Nope. All serious biz this game. Lynch me Dibbers c'mon.

hey you haven't tried to hunt scum at all.

What have you to say to this accusation?


It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too.

Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work.

And he never followed through on his "cooking up". He admitted in one of his earlier posts that he's not contributing:
On January 04 2013 02:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Dat feel when waking up at noon. Perfection timing I guess. In b4 "omg active lurking"

Yes I'm not contributing.

@Anyone
who knows about Palmar

Does stupid / dick Palmar = scum Palmar? Totally cool if we're going to lynch him for trolling. It'd make waking up heck of a less daunting task.

Although I'm curious how my lynch wagon will air-out, I think it could produce some interesting results. Sheep the vote on me.

As for my vote today -- bouncing between Palmar (prolly not) and some random Bob in the lurking zone. Tunkeg's lynch I can't see being built around anything serious.

@VE


Did you seriously warrant my vote based on a pre-game comment? Hehehe. But yes, I did go to sleep. For like 12 hours it was pretty epic laziness.

Sheep my lynch guys, gogo.

But he hasn't done anything to try to redeem himself. He does not care. His taunting of us to sheep his lynch is also very disturbing. It doesn't accomplish anything for the town. He did it in the above post and in the following:
On January 05 2013 03:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
##vote: marv

Because sheeping dibbers and phone posting / not reading thread. In b4 im scum.

What is the purpose of him doing that? It does nothing except draw attention away from himself. He doesn't want attention drawn to himself. He doesn't want anyone calling him out. He does it to make us scared of calling him scum. He wants out of the spotlight because he is mafia.

In the two games he was town I put above, you can clearly see how vested he is in the game. Take one of his posts from witchcraft mini
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On December 22 2012 07:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
THIS WAS TYPED UP QUICKLY, DON'T EXPECT TOO MUCH ORGANIZATION, BUT MY OPINION STANDS.

I'M ABOUT TO ASK KUSH TO VOTE JX WITH ME. HE KNOWS HE WILL FLIP TOWN. THEN TOWN LYNCHES ME / DJO = SCUMWIN.

IF KUSH VOTES WITH ME FOR JX -- EYWA / KUSH SCUMTEAM GG

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On December 22 2012 01:09 kushm4sta wrote:
cheesecake are you kidding me?
I made the best case in this game by far, and honestly it had nothing to do with my analysis or logic. The only contribution from me was actually going through his filter, because his quotes spoke for themselves..he is that fucking scummy.
If that wasn't enough, there's his reaction, which is basically a scumclaim. His personality changes entirely. He seems angry and panicked. I go from being not his top scumread before the case to being OMG MUST DESTROY after it.
The case is damning, like you said earlier, but its his reaction that makes him confirmed scum.

Cheesecake
I just realized that my defense of him was total balls. It was entirely based on the meta of his first mafia game. So on my agenda is a closer look at cheesecake, which will probably happen later in the day.



Don't flatter yourself. The only thing I saw was a meta case which was questionable and his reluctance to lynch DYH.

I truly believe Djo is Innocent, I cannot pair him up with a scumbuddy. Do JX / Eywa make sense? No, he's pushed for the lynch of JX hardcore and flamed with Eywa, who even called him part of the scumteam. Do I make sense? Yes, I do, but I'm town. Djo's only "scummy quality" is his reluctance to lynch DYH. That's it. If I recall, didn't KUSH actively attempt to PREVENT the DYH lynch?

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On December 20 2012 04:31 kushm4sta wrote:
DYH makes sense to me about Mr Z. Mr. Zs play is exactly how I play as scum.. a too scum to be scum mentality.
Like im gonna act so scum that everyone will think no scum would be dumb enough to act like this.

Not really that into lynching DYH today because he's not that much a lurker anymore, and his case against mr z looks good and another reason I'll get into later. ATM i want to look at mr z. brb after goign through his filter.


Trying to protect his scumbuddy.

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On December 20 2012 04:48 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck it.
I got a green check on dyh for scrying. could definitely still be scum but it's less likely. And his newer stuff does have more effort.


FAKECLAIM! Calling it right now. You want to know why he was SAFE to fakeclaim?
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On December 19 2012 05:58 kushm4sta wrote:
have people claimed witchcrafy yet?

also hapa do you know that you were shot


Nobody else claimed. He was trying to see if any town were empowered by witchcraft. Thrawn also was likely to be witchcrafted, since I think at least 2 people voted for him. He also knows that at least I voted for him. He is completely safe to make this fakeclaim -- A scry on DYH. And DYH just happened to be the priest, how convenient. The entire situation just seems to convenient for Kush.

He didn't even breadcrumb the god-damned check.

Then, he tries to push a mislynch, JX.
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On December 20 2012 05:42 kushm4sta wrote:
##vote jiexian
1 his cases are built on terrible terrible reasoning
2 he knew 100% morbidus wasn't scum..how could town know that??
3 extreme lack of content apart from 1 liners (even worse than me and I have 2 really good excuses)
4 process of elimination

He kind of reminds me of Dandelion scum.

I'd love to lynch djo but I don't think it's realistic today ;_;
I'm saving my sick case that will totally convince everyone for tomorrow. Cause there is just so much scumminess hidden in so much bullshit that it's going to take forever to compile all that shit.

On December 19 2012 00:18 JieXian wrote:
sorry for repeating myself but in the spirit of keeping things in 1 place,

thrawn's death solves his problem of having to deliver his promise = to push for him now

ok goodbye everyone going to practice.

Let's not forget hapa's blue shot thing. There's really no WIFOM case here, unlike thrawn's death.

Fact: Everyone thinks hapa and dp are a strong townie except for me and eywa given how they sheeped them and defended hapa when eywa had a case against him D1

Fact : People have voted for the strong townie - DP

Fact : the number of candidates are really small given the huge number of players who were considered lurkers, whom none trusts

Fact : Nobody can come up with a sensible advantage for mafia not to have vigi shot (and also NK) hapa



Look at his reasons for voting JX... 100% knew morb was town... SO DID EYWA. Cases built on terrible reasoning... EYWA MORESO. Why does he want to lynch JX over Eywa? Because he's his scumbuddy.

Look at his hard-defense of Eywa.
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 14:32 kushm4sta wrote:
Exhibit A: Ewya's alleged scumslip
I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.

Exhibit B: In which Ewya says im town
On December 17 2012 11:46 Eywa- wrote:
Any scum would have to be out of their mind to side with me right now given how hot of a target I am... I don't see how it can help them... Kush is a civilian (but of course, you can lynch him too given that civilians seem to want to lose around here).


This is just one of many examples of his use of the word citizen.
Ewya says CITIZEN when he means town and TOWNIE when he means player.

Remember this is his first forum mafia game. The only experience he has had is IRL mafia.


Think about it: Does Kush EVER defend people like this? First time forum mafia game my ass, so what. Normal Kush wouldn't give a damn.

Kush's case on Djo is OKAY to say the least, but it hinges on only one thing: reluctance to lynch DYH. Kush was SO MUCH MORE reluctant, trying to push another mislynch, and only bussing at the very last second.


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On December 17 2012 11:16 kushm4sta wrote:
On December 17 2012 11:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 17 2012 11:11 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
lol Eywa so angry at life right now.

Everything is reading scummer

Not really, the majority has yet to agree with you.


And a single person has yet to agree with you...


I do. fuck off cheese. fuxk off hapa. fuck off thrawn.
kush and ewya townbros4life. we scumslip 2gether we die together


Why does he think Eywa is town?? Mad that he's getting pressured? Eywa Kush scumteam.
And look at this BS:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:49 kushm4sta wrote:
k this is pretty easy from here. I'm thinking jx djodrrff scumteam.
Naysayers prepare yourself for the sickest most convincing case ever tomorrow.
I know djodreffs scum meta very well and I know he is scum.

I voted thrawn, dp, mrz.


Let's see, everyone that is dead and someone that claims to have powers. lol.

DJO HAS PUSHED JX ALL GAME LONG HOW CAN THEY BE SCUMTEAM?!!? Anyone that's not Eywa. Eywa / Kush scumteam. Kush has done nothing this game besides push for the lynch of Djo and hard defend Eywa. This fakeclaim bullshit shouldn't instantly make him town.

Both Eywa and Kush fit the profile of not wanting to lynch DYH. Kush hard defends Eywa, and attacks Djo for acting the SAME exact way he was during the lynch.

Kush never pushes Eywa despite him doing the exact same "scummy things" as JieXian. I can't emphasize how badly I think they are scumteam. Eywa / JX makes sense, so does Kush / Eywa. Gotta lynch me a Eywa today.

I can't put together any scumteam that excludes Eywa. My vote stays. I'll go Kush if possible, but Eywa is friggen 100% scum.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Eywa

EYWA + KUSH SCUMTEAM DIE DIE DIE

Ask me anything about this scumteam right here. I've got more ammo in the chamber for any questions. Kill them.


Look how excited he is. "THIS IS THE SCUM TEAM GG", "DIE DIE DIE". He's excited to play mafia, more evident by the fact that he posts nonstop. He makes the infrequent long post like the one above calling out his reads. He helps and contributes, and most importantly he speaks exactly what is on his mind. He was never afraid to post before, yet this game he is.

Mr. Cheesecake is mafia.

I will sheep this case as it is a completely accurate assessment of CC's play this game and his play in other games I have played with him and obs'd.

Foolish I will ask you a question though, what made you want to lynch Marv day 1? Was it a town read on BC or an honest scum read on Marv?

Town read on BC. I had stated earlier in the day that I thought he hadn't done anything to say he was mafia. I came back to the thread right before lynch time and saw it was between BC and marv, so I quickly tried to put my vote on marv. Honestly I had not read the thread and didn't even know they had both claimed blue. My vote didn't even count cause it was late.

Since both of them were blue it's safe to say the mafia weren't behind the lynch. So I doubt there was more than one or two mafia who were actively pushing someone day 1.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 06 2013 23:31 GMT
#2851
On January 07 2013 08:20 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 08:09 Palmar wrote:
I quickly skimmed foolishness's contributions. I very much agree on his thoughts on Cheesecake. I would also support a lynch on MZ and I have serious concerns about VE.

What's wrong with VE?


Almost every game VE doesn't shine green like a bright beacon in an endless night of scum, he has been scum.

Unless he did something that was impressive and town-VE like today, remember I'm way behind as I've not had much time to play this weekend, I think he could very likely be scum.
Computer says mafia
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
January 06 2013 23:31 GMT
#2852
On January 07 2013 08:12 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 07:35 HiroPro wrote:
It helps if you read Toads post also.

I
f I HAVE to deliver the KP, can I do other things as well? Example: 1KP left, I want to sac 0.5KP for a PR and still punch someone for 0.5KP worth of damage. Can I do both


Well, it looks like Toad had forgot he has asked this question because he didn't mention this when we were discussing why iamp had been shot at night and not by a day vig.
Why did you not make any comment on our discussion at that point ?


I wasn't around.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#2853
oh hi was asking hiro, crap should not have told you I'm not reading
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
January 06 2013 23:34 GMT
#2854
What?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 06 2013 23:38 GMT
#2855
On January 07 2013 08:33 Toadesstern wrote:
oh he was asking hiro, crap should not have told you I'm not reading

EBWOP

I thought he asked me why I didn't bring it up in the thread
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 06 2013 23:51 GMT
#2856
On January 07 2013 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 08:09 Djodref wrote:
On January 07 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
debears you still on? have anything to say about my djo case?

specifically the scumslip part


It's not a scumslip. I've already addressed it. Do you have any problems with how I've addressed it ?


Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 07:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 07 2013 06:52 Djodref wrote:
@ thrawn

Regarding my 'scumslip', I know that kush isn't bussing because he changed his mind about Cheesecake at some point (or some other player, I don't remember exactly). Also he didn't give any reason for why marv was scum, even a small quote or anything like that. Even if at the time we didn't know marv's alignment, I know that kush uses his extra-knowledge as scum. He wouldn't drop a read because he would be right about CC from the beginning. He would give a small indication why marv would have been scum as well. Just like in WitchCraft when he was nit-picking my post to show the juicy part to you.


but cc hasn;t flipped yet, you are saying cc is town?

say some more stuff about kush changing his mind on whatever player you're talking about



First of all, I'm not saying thet CC is town or scum here.
If kush knew CC's alignment, kush wouldn't have backed up. My point is that scum kush knows everybody alignment, and plays in consequence. At that time, if he knew that CC was town or scum, he would have defended him from the beginning or bus him from the beginning and wouldn't have changed his mind.

iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
January 07 2013 00:39 GMT
#2857
somebody voted in the voting thread and didn't have the common courtesy to check in anyone want to guess who it was?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 07 2013 00:40 GMT
#2858
On January 07 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:09 Djodref wrote:
On January 07 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
debears you still on? have anything to say about my djo case?

specifically the scumslip part


It's not a scumslip. I've already addressed it. Do you have any problems with how I've addressed it ?


On January 07 2013 07:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 07 2013 06:52 Djodref wrote:
@ thrawn

Regarding my 'scumslip', I know that kush isn't bussing because he changed his mind about Cheesecake at some point (or some other player, I don't remember exactly). Also he didn't give any reason for why marv was scum, even a small quote or anything like that. Even if at the time we didn't know marv's alignment, I know that kush uses his extra-knowledge as scum. He wouldn't drop a read because he would be right about CC from the beginning. He would give a small indication why marv would have been scum as well. Just like in WitchCraft when he was nit-picking my post to show the juicy part to you.


but cc hasn;t flipped yet, you are saying cc is town?

say some more stuff about kush changing his mind on whatever player you're talking about



First of all, I'm not saying thet CC is town or scum here.
If kush knew CC's alignment, kush wouldn't have backed up. My point is that scum kush knows everybody alignment, and plays in consequence. At that time, if he knew that CC was town or scum, he would have defended him from the beginning or bus him from the beginning and wouldn't have changed his mind.



You are basing a freaking meta town read on his reaction to one person?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 07 2013 00:41 GMT
#2859
I know iamp!
Hopeless
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 07 2013 00:42 GMT
#2860
Ok. List of people I want to lynch in order of importance after Jackal

CC
Djo
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