EPTIt's okay I have had a scum read on VE too
Fuck those vets
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yamato77
11589 Posts
It's okay I have had a scum read on VE too Fuck those vets | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On January 06 2013 15:54 yamato77 wrote: Hey Keir It's okay I have had a scum read on VE too Fuck those vets So VE is town then? Thanks! | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
Sorry, I might be a bit drunk. But I'm just joking around, don't take me seriously. <3 | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
I'm not wrong EVERY time. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On January 06 2013 15:56 yamato77 wrote: I only let Marv make that joke because he and I had a conversation about it post game in YANMM I'm not wrong EVERY time. I made the remark about it in YANMM obs QT well before you died  | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Anyway I'm going to go read through the end of day 1 where I was posting on my phone from work. I will find the scummy votes and lynch them on the morrow. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 06 2013 15:56 yamato77 wrote: I only let Marv make that joke because he and I had a conversation about it post game in YANMM I'm not wrong EVERY time. It reminds me that kush is definitively town for wanting to lynch marv  | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Marv didn't say so but he wasn't really in a position to OMGUS the guy who was accusing him with a massive following. Palmar might be a good lynch, especially if he decides to do nothing from here on out. Scum to me in this situation would have flip flopped between the wagons of Marv and BC because either one was a good lynch. VE did this with a bunch of shit posts talking with Marv. First he didn't opposed the Marv lynch, then he did, then he voted for BC with a weak ass justification. People opposing either lynch look townie to me because of the reverse of that logic. Keir, Prom, Bugs (deceased). These are just my initial thoughts. VE is scummy though for sure. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
My bad VE you're not that scummy. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
I didn't like hopeless from the start so I can get behind that lynch. MZ is a popular lynch idea for tomorrow already so that's good. Palmar I have no idea how to tell if he's scum. There's plenty of evidence that he's not but I don't know to what lengths he would go to win as scum. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
Keir and Iamp, I think both of you are likely dayvig targets given that nobody else claims anything. You should try to hand out your reads ASAP. CC just looks more and more like a lazy townie to me I am not comfortable at all in lynching the guy, especially because his town meta is to be lazy. On January 06 2013 09:34 Toadesstern wrote: Initially I thought something along those lines, ie, we must be on the wrong track because otherwise scum wouldn't use Dayvigs, although I now think this is the wrong mentality. Scum only need to have 2 players that are not under heavy suspicion to deliver day vig shots.1) as already mentioned twice there's a nother downside: Mafia KP is untrackable, Day-vigs are kind of trackable due to rolecops. It's something that can not be faked or avoided unlike alignmentcops (framer / GF). 2) Dayvigs shoot on d2. Mafia KP was sacced on n1. So the n1 shots would have been earlier than the dayvigs. If they were afraid of dying they would not have sacced but shot on n1. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
I guess everyone thought they had to type in the thread but that ability seemed really strong to me. They give up a KP the night before, which could be blocked, for an UNBLOCKABLE KP the next day to use at any time. Super strong. | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
On January 06 2013 09:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I don't get what mafia would stand to gain by shooting WBG today instead of shooting 3 others and taking care of him at night. He had a one-time power, and this way there would be questioning if WBG is really the cop or if he is scum. Because he was in danger of recovering town from its Day 1 mess perhaps? Palmar was happy to lynch two non-scum and he would be discredited so I'm guessing scum are gonna kill people who are going to rally town. I seriously doubt this is WBG scumpowerplay, I don't see the point for scum to risk this but hey, as someone mentioned they could be bored I guess. ##Vote: Jackal58 | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On January 06 2013 20:16 yamato77 wrote: Now is not the time for fear, that comes later.I called the dayvig thing strong for mafia before the game and no one listened to me. I guess everyone thought they had to type in the thread but that ability seemed really strong to me. They give up a KP the night before, which could be blocked, for an UNBLOCKABLE KP the next day to use at any time. Super strong. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On January 06 2013 20:20 froggynoddy wrote: Because he was in danger of recovering town from its Day 1 mess perhaps? Palmar was happy to lynch two non-scum and he would be discredited so I'm guessing scum are gonna kill people who are going to rally town. I seriously doubt this is WBG scumpowerplay, I don't see the point for scum to risk this but hey, as someone mentioned they could be bored I guess. ##Vote: Jackal58 I don't understand what you mean by the bolded. | ||
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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
On January 06 2013 20:26 Clarity_nl wrote: I don't understand what you mean by the bolded. Ah crap, just got up, forgot that he already flipped blue *facepalm*. Ignore me. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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Vivax
22202 Posts
That's what I'm doing atm. Srew this setup, trading KP 1:1 for dayvigs is OP. I'm glad to see that iamp got saved though (= . | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
I'm actually going to concede my argument with that Hopeless meta play is making him scum. It doesn't actually. While he isn't really playing like town he isn't playing like scum either. So it's quite a null tell imo. Maybe a slight town tell even. Hopeless, you said yourself that I shouldn't just watch TLVII Mafia because you were way more active then. You instead say I should watch Chrono trigger. CT is a completely diferent game than TLVII (which is much more similar to this game). But I must say I can see the similarities between CT and this game. Tho it's entirely possible that you are saying this just to justify your scum play. With that being said, Hopeless is still scum : ) | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On January 06 2013 21:00 Lazermonkey wrote: Back to tunneling Hopeless : ) I'm actually going to concede my argument with that Hopeless meta play is making him scum. It doesn't actually. While he isn't really playing like town he isn't playing like scum either. So it's quite a null tell imo. Maybe a slight town tell even. Hopeless, you said yourself that I shouldn't just watch TLVII Mafia because you were way more active then. You instead say I should watch Chrono trigger. CT is a completely diferent game than TLVII (which is much more similar to this game). But I must say I can see the similarities between CT and this game. Tho it's entirely possible that you are saying this just to justify your scum play. With that being said, Hopeless is still scum : ) You basically just said that his meta doesn't make him scum because it can be similar to his town play, but your argument for him being scum is directly tied to his meta. I'm not saying he can't be scum, he definitely could be, but you're not going to convince people by repeating the fact that "he hasn't scumhunted" is your only argument, which can be explained away by meta. | ||
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