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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On January 06 2013 22:26 Clarity_nl wrote: Obviously, as town are more inclined to vote swap it does make sense for scum to vote swap to look like they are town.Fine, they're less inclined, but if you cannot find a plausible scum perspective for his actions, you should not consider this null. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On January 06 2013 22:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Obviously, as town are more inclined to vote swap it does make sense for scum to vote swap to look like they are town. See Risen. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On January 06 2013 22:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Obviously, as town are more inclined to vote swap it does make sense for scum to vote swap to look like they are town. This argument implies hopeless plays a really strong game, which you have shown he has not. Prome: Yeah he's scum, but it wasn't obvious to me even after bc and marv flips. Please realize you haven't even read the damn game yet. Maybe simplifying it like that is good but I'm at a point in the game where stuff has baggage | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On January 06 2013 22:33 Clarity_nl wrote: Well, I don't agree with this but w/e.This argument implies hopeless plays a really strong game, which you have shown he has not. Prome: Yeah he's scum, but it wasn't obvious to me even after bc and marv flips. Please realize you haven't even read the damn game yet. Maybe simplifying it like that is good but I'm at a point in the game where stuff has baggage | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
Seriously though, you just came out of Hero where Palmar explained how to find scum Palmar. It is very simple: when Palmar hits green instead of red Palmar is scum. Who got the check on Jackal that makes him confirmed scum? I assume WBG from the flips but some confirmation would be cool. Can you give me a two second claim run down? I know Keir said he shot tube and Imp mason'd Palmar. Besides that I am in the dark. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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Lazermonkey
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I think Palmar clamed Jaedong named vt in mason chat. I don't recall any other real claims. I would prefer it if you just took an hour or two and read the full game and then came back, though, prom. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
Interestingly Chez thinks Palmar is 3p and not scum. I hadn't thought about it that much but I could see that being the case too. He says so in this popst. Either way Palmar is anti town. Did someone say Imp was saved from a shot today? Can you explain what that means? | ||
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Vivax
21972 Posts
 Townie things I see about sentinel are him digging up a game where he realizes that he wasn't talking about marv, it's improbable for scum to doublecheck their statements and then even admit they were wrong about something unless it's going to give them potential trouble. He's also pretty honest about the reads he doesn't deliver. He says it's sponsored by lithium carbonate, maybe he wants to tell us he suffers from some disorder. He's not a hot candidate for me right now, but he has made scummy decisions during the marv vs. BC phase. That caught my attention. There are still enough points out to reconsider it. I don't agree with some of claritys reasons for finding him scummy initially, and I don't agree with him being town cause he was assuming scum wouldn't shoot bugs. It's easy to make such posts when you know what's going to happen, it's essentially WIFOM. I prefer looking for general attitude and motivations. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I'm not trying to criticize the fact that you're not up to speed yet, but you have to realize that asking all these questions when the info is in the thread is quite tedious, since you can't really do anything with the information. I guess you carry it with you as you read the thread with fresh eyes.... dunno | ||
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Vivax
21972 Posts
On January 06 2013 22:15 Promethelax wrote: aw dammit. My crazy theory was wrong too. Bye Keir <333. Vivax, quick summery. Why is Sent scum? It was a response to this btw. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On January 06 2013 22:48 Vivax wrote: What the fuck Keirathi, gg Townie things I see about sentinel are him digging up a game where he realizes that he wasn't talking about marv, it's improbable for scum to doublecheck their statements and then even admit they were wrong about something unless it's going to give them potential trouble. He's also pretty honest about the reads he doesn't deliver. He says it's sponsored by lithium carbonate, maybe he wants to tell us he suffers from some disorder. He's not a hot candidate for me right now, but he has made scummy decisions during the marv vs. BC phase. That caught my attention. There are still enough points out to reconsider it. I don't agree with some of claritys reasons for finding him scummy initially, and I don't agree with him being town cause he was assuming scum wouldn't shoot bugs. It's easy to make such posts when you know what's going to happen, it's essentially WIFOM. I prefer looking for general attitude and motivations. Fucking hell dude do you read anything properly. You didn't understand my case on him as you demonstrated last post, and I never said he's town because he was assuming scum wouldn't shoot bugs, it's the fact that he thought there were 3 shots total when in fact as scum he would know they shot iamp in the night. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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Vivax
21972 Posts
 . You didn't write your reasoning for thinking he's town in the posts concerned, you actually just said he made a mistake, you should be a bit more concise about that.But upon double-checking I just saw you made a bigger mistake, since iamp actually claimed before Sentinel wrote that. Here, I'm referencing: On January 06 2013 08:36 iamperfection wrote: Im from my phone but if you guys need something to discuss. I was shoot and saved last night. pretty intresting I guess. Back later but still always watching. On January 06 2013 13:58 Clarity_nl wrote: *snip* With this in mind: I find it hard to see mafia either making this mistake by accident, or making it on purpose to seem like town. Therefore Sentinel is town. Despite my case on him I quite liked his defense, in combination with this it clears him in my book. MZ is an obvious target for everyone but there has been no resistance to it, much like the marv and bc lynches, so it's putting me a little on edge and I'll be spending today trying to find alternatives (although I generally do this anyway even when happy with the main lynch target) As you see, Sentinel wrote that after iamp claimed it. So, why do you think Sentinel is town again? | ||
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Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I find it hard to see mafia either making this mistake by accident, or making it on purpose to seem like town. Therefore Sentinel is town. Despite my case on him I quite liked his defense, in combination with this it clears him in my book. It even explains that I can't see him do it on purpose as scum, what does the order matter? It makes more sense for him to make this mistake as town even after iamp claimed to get shot. Now go away Vivax, seriously. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On January 06 2013 22:58 Chezinu wrote: The Brown Brotherhood strikes again. Well done. Tube's death was not in vain. He helped us catch yet another blue. What? | ||
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Vivax
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