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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 20:45 GMT
#2984
How is Prom town Hiro? He hasn't done shit this game but calling everyone retarded for no reason.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 20:47 GMT
#2987
On January 08 2013 05:43 Promethelax wrote:
When you ask a stupid and obvious question you aren't asking for a reaction from the guy you are talking to. You are asking to have asked.

Hey Dibbers, why is Vivax scum? What is it he is trying to accomplish with his case on you? Aren't there easier lynches for him to get (in this hypothetical situation with scum him and town you) Why would he choose you?
Its fucking insane that you jump one me and tell me that its something obvious when YOUR interpretation of it is in fact not what he meant(he said I was town...). You see, it might not have been so obvious after all?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 21:15 GMT
#2994
On January 08 2013 05:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 05:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
How is Prom town Hiro? He hasn't done shit this game but calling everyone retarded for no reason.


This. I've still got him labelled as scum because ever since I called him out he hasn't made a concrete case on anyone. Maybe one paragraph in any direction and nothing to say "this person is 100% scum and you should all lynch him at your earliest convenience"

If I had a gun to my head right now and was told to pick three lynch targets I would get Jackal, Prom and probably Palmar since in the end everyone he builds a case against flips blue.

Time to get my spreadsheet going.
Even if Palmar is scum, there would be no way for him to know that they are blue. they couldn't have used day cop because of KP limit.

TBH, I think its crazy that people are willing to lynch Palmar just because he was pushing BC and Marv. Unless someone actually shows me that Palmar have a 100% scum hit ratio as town, I will treat this ''Palmar is never wrong as town, thus he is scum'' as total BS. 25/30 players in the game did vote for BC or Palmar and a handfull of those thought both were scum. Yet you only call Palmar scum...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 21:30 GMT
#3008
On January 08 2013 06:29 yamato77 wrote:
His recent list of reads somehow includes me.

The next time I get included in a scum read list with zero justification I am lynching that person.
Did he not say you were town Lol?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 21:36 GMT
#3011
On January 08 2013 06:19 debears wrote:
So, to rehash why Vivax may be scum in short terms

1) his unexplained town read of tun/prom
2) Taking my quotes out of context
3) misrepresenting me with those quotes
4) Being unreasonable
Point 2 and 3 are not alignment indicative. Point 4 is just... Lol. Point 1 is plain wrong btw.
The Tunkeg wagon is stupid.
You should read him in Hero Mini Mafia, he got mislynched as veteran, dropping a retarded battle poem before his death. I highly doubt a mafia Tunkeg would be THIS identical to his town meta in another game.

The analogies live up again. He comes in with a huge, scummy post of rather summarizing nature, to start fighting against everyone and anyone finding him scummy for it, just to disappear again when shit hits the fan. Shortly before lynch he comes in with some martyr post, trying to look epic while being lynched and fed to the pigs for being a dicks.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 21:45 GMT
#3020
On January 08 2013 06:37 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 06:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:19 debears wrote:
So, to rehash why Vivax may be scum in short terms

1) his unexplained town read of tun/prom
2) Taking my quotes out of context
3) misrepresenting me with those quotes
4) Being unreasonable
Point 2 and 3 are not alignment indicative. Point 4 is just... Lol. Point 1 is plain wrong btw.
The Tunkeg wagon is stupid.
You should read him in Hero Mini Mafia, he got mislynched as veteran, dropping a retarded battle poem before his death. I highly doubt a mafia Tunkeg would be THIS identical to his town meta in another game.

The analogies live up again. He comes in with a huge, scummy post of rather summarizing nature, to start fighting against everyone and anyone finding him scummy for it, just to disappear again when shit hits the fan. Shortly before lynch he comes in with some martyr post, trying to look epic while being lynched and fed to the pigs for being a dicks.


Saying someone is town because they look scummy is a fucking retarded defense and reasoning for a strong townread
It might be the case but.
1. You claimed there was no reason for him to have said that Tunkeg was town when it is in fact not true.
2. He may be retarded : ). And that is not alignment indicative.

I obviously cannot speak for Vivax on this. I just find your reasons for thinking he is scum is flawed.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 21:50 GMT
#3027
On January 08 2013 06:48 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 06:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:37 debears wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 08 2013 06:19 debears wrote:
So, to rehash why Vivax may be scum in short terms

1) his unexplained town read of tun/prom
2) Taking my quotes out of context
3) misrepresenting me with those quotes
4) Being unreasonable
Point 2 and 3 are not alignment indicative. Point 4 is just... Lol. Point 1 is plain wrong btw.
The Tunkeg wagon is stupid.
You should read him in Hero Mini Mafia, he got mislynched as veteran, dropping a retarded battle poem before his death. I highly doubt a mafia Tunkeg would be THIS identical to his town meta in another game.

The analogies live up again. He comes in with a huge, scummy post of rather summarizing nature, to start fighting against everyone and anyone finding him scummy for it, just to disappear again when shit hits the fan. Shortly before lynch he comes in with some martyr post, trying to look epic while being lynched and fed to the pigs for being a dicks.


Saying someone is town because they look scummy is a fucking retarded defense and reasoning for a strong townread
It might be the case but.
1. You claimed there was no reason for him to have said that Tunkeg was town when it is in fact not true.
2. He may be retarded : ). And that is not alignment indicative.

I obviously cannot speak for Vivax on this. I just find your reasons for thinking he is scum is flawed.


That is not a reason in my book. His play is too bad to be town

WORST
REASON
EVER
LOL
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 22:03 GMT
#3031
On January 08 2013 06:39 debears wrote:
Laser read the big wall of text I wrote and show me how he is reasonable

Taking quotes out of context and misrepresenting someone with them is more likely scum than town, since if you assume they are town, you assume that person is just flat fucking bad
There are bad parts of the case. But you basically haven't been scum hunting much at all. You don't really push your suspects hard. You seemed very uninterested in the lynch, which evev according to yourself is a scum trait.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 22:07 GMT
#3034
WBG, you so silly ; )
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 22:15 GMT
#3040
On January 08 2013 07:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was masoned to foolishness for a day although my guess is intelligent people already knew that. You'll get logs after I discuss things with supersoft.
Now this is interesting...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 22:20 GMT
#3042
On January 08 2013 07:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 07:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 08 2013 07:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was masoned to foolishness for a day although my guess is intelligent people already knew that. You'll get logs after I discuss things with supersoft.
Now this is interesting...


How is it going in your lodge, taking the world over soon?
What do you mean?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 07 2013 23:34 GMT
#3056
Debears of the brown

I have come to end you

Lazermonkey of the pink
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 08 2013 10:01 GMT
#3121
Why does he need to be so fast with the logs? As long as they are out mid D3 I'm cool with it. He is obviously not getting shoot tonight... Also, there may be lots of town reads in his foolish logs and thus he doesn't want to out them this early?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 08 2013 11:39 GMT
#3128
On January 08 2013 19:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because IF you are town then scum know you're telling the truth and YOU should be confident that the logs show you are town, yet you still think/say you're a mislynch waiting to happen?
Don't be stupid yo. They'd have to shoot Foolis,Mz and supersoft to do so. And that would just be bad.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 08 2013 11:55 GMT
#3130
On January 08 2013 20:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
They wouldn't have to do that at all, what are you even talking about.
Foolish got the logs as well and I get the impression that he sent the logs to supersoft as well. So in order to prevent the logs from getting out, yes the have to shot them all.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 08 2013 12:23 GMT
#3132
On January 08 2013 21:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
If you think I'm saying he'd get shot to prevent the logs from coming out you are sorely mistaken. I'm commenting on the fact that MZ has these logs and yet he's still talking about himself as someone who won't get shot at night 100% and an easy mislynch. It doesn't fit.
I don't get it. Him outing the logs will not confirm him as town in anyway, so why is he not an easy misslynch tomorrow?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 08 2013 12:29 GMT
#3133
EBWOP: if he is town, that is.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 08 2013 13:54 GMT
#3137
No, as I said earlier, I think there are several legit reasons for him not to be outing the logs right now.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 08 2013 20:00 GMT
#3161
Vivax, don't waste your time trying to convince scum that he is scum.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 08 2013 21:47 GMT
#3179
I don't excpect to be shot today but w/e. I don't care about giving too long explanations for this one as I will have 48 hours tomrrow to do so.

Debears-scum
Hopeless-scum

Iamp-He is by no means confirmed town like some players think, however his play(which is what we should judge players by) looks town to me.
MZ-I'd say town on him. Doesn't make alot of sense for scum to be fake claiming, they would have to sacrifice sooo much KP. And besides, why chose MZ of all players? I also think the fact that he DIDN'T hand out the logs is a town tell actually. I think scum would be much more inclined to hand out the logs in a pressured position like he was in.
Clarity-most likely town. While I disagree with alot of what he says, the fact that he is so willing to take a discussion is very telling imo. Also:
On January 03 2013 20:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
##Vote Jackal58

Lurker policy lynch go.
Feels strange to do as scum, given that there were alot of lurkers early on.
Vivax-decently strong town read atm, based on his case and interaction with debears.
Palmar-I dunno anymore. His recent play haven't been as convincing. still slight town on him.
Prom-His play this far is quite bad I must say. He claims that he plays like this regardless of alignment and TBH I haven't had the time to check his older games. I think there is a decent chance for him to be scum.

All others are null, either because I cannot really determine their alignment good enough yet or because I haven't read their filters good enough.
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