Looney Lynching Mini Mafia - Page 6

On October 10 2012 11:07 Hopeless1der wrote:

I am unfamiliar with this policy. Please elaborate.

On October 10 2012 19:48 kushm4sta wrote:
voting momentoss because he's afk and I know his reads are bad
voting original because austin has contributed way more already and he's known as a good player
voting dauod because of his weird joke that made no sense... alien invaders what?

bad reasons? yes
subject to change? definintely

On October 10 2012 20:02 prplhz wrote:Is EchelonTee trying to vote for Hopeless1der?

On October 10 2012 14:27 EchelonTee wrote:
Hey guys, been a while.

I agree with what Sandroba has been saying thus far. While I see the sensibility of HiroPro's plan (everyone votes on each matchup, 1 vote max), there are a few issues with it (which sandroba has stated somewhat).

1. It gives "credibility" to people who are knocked out early, while not forcing them to do anything significant. A good good good example of this problem was in Liar Game 1. Basically half of the people were immune to the lynch depending on a Yes or No vote; while town tried to make the immune people accountable for their actions, because they have no fear of the lynch they really have no pressure on them to do anything at all. A hilarious example is sandroba himself; despite being widely called scum since D1, because he was immune to lynch through flukes, he stayed alive for days manipulating people here and there. If we force everyone to vote on everything, the knocked out people can make random reasons for their votes and look active. However, if we don't force everyone to vote on everything, knocked out people will have to talk about things on their own prerogative, exposing their true intentions.

2. It will lead to a bunch of laundry lists of "analysis" which doesn't help anything. If people have to vote on 7+ matchups, while it will put a bunch of content into the thread, it gives an easy out for mafia to look "active". All they have to do is say something like "I like persons X, Y, and Z because of yada yada yada. I don't like person M because he only voted for 4 matchups! What's he hiding??". Basically, this plan would put a huge flood of info without much actual substance.

3. This diffuses the town's vote, making it easier for scum to do as they please. Remember, the vote is the town's strongest tool; we out number mafia's votes 9x. However if townsfolk are forced to only have one vote per matchup, then if they see someone they really think is scummy, they won't be "allowed" to stack more votes on them because of this limitation.

Overall, while I do like the initiative to give structure to the voting process, ultimately I think it does more harm than good. What should happen is standard, good old fashioned scum-hunting; people should just up and state who they think is scum and put their votes to back it up. Speaking of which:

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Please feel free to post things of substance. You're being needlessly dismissive, which is strange because 1. it's very early in the game, people ask questions 2. you haven't done anything, so to put down someone else just feels off. It's been a decent amount of time in the game and you've shown that you're available; why not comment on the setup at all? I don't want you having a free pass for the rest of this tourny; I want to see you talk more.

Hopeless1der 2x

On October 10 2012 14:32 EchelonTee wrote:
Not going to put my vote into voting thread just yet, until I'm sure of all votes for this round, to make things easier for kita.

Is the ratio of town:mafia known, or unknown?

On October 10 2012 20:40 sandroba wrote:
@da0ud Yes, those people are at disavantage. How is that relevant to who is scum or not?

@prpl You are my best scum read so far, how do you feel about that <3

@mementoss Don't be stupid. Town# > Mafia# by default. That's the dumbest shit I've read so far and let me tell you there is plenty dumb shit about.

On October 10 2012 20:46 sandroba wrote:
You don't have to vote anyone right now. You have however many votes you want (max 10). You misrepresented ET impossible ratio quote so somehow he knew the mafia number which we don't know yet so you can vote ET. Yes, that's dumb.

On October 10 2012 20:42 Mementoss wrote:Than realizes shit, if I don't ask about this in the thread, it will come back to haunt me cause it will look even worse.

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On October 10 2012 20:40 sandroba wrote:
@da0ud Yes, those people are at disavantage. How is that relevant to who is scum or not?

@prpl You are my best scum read so far, how do you feel about that <3

@mementoss Don't be stupid. Town# > Mafia# by default. That's the dumbest shit I've read so far and let me tell you there is plenty dumb shit about.

On October 10 2012 20:21 thrawn2112 wrote:


I think he was saying that he's not going to actually vote until he's figured out exactly how he wants to spend all of his votes. The reasoning being that it'll make it easier on the cohosts. That's a nice sentiment and all and no offense to the mods, but that statement did sound a little scummy.

But did you think it looked scummy?

On October 10 2012 20:54 thrawn2112 wrote:


That's the only part of it that makes me suspicious of ET. Asking for a specific scum/town ratio is stupid because a mod will never give you the answer so it doesn't seem like a question someone would ask unless they have ulterior motives behind asking the question.

On October 10 2012 20:30 Mementoss wrote:
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Guy, I wanted you to be town, why did you have to scum slip. For those that didn't catch it, ET implies he knows that how much more votes town has compared to mafia, implying he knows how many mafia there is. Minutes later, he asks if mafia count is known. Where did he get this number in the first place? I don't think he would just make it up out of thin air.

EchelonTee x1

On October 10 2012 20:12 thrawn2112 wrote:


It's a policy based upon him making posts like the following where his posts are thick with scummy justifications/ reasoning but he doesn't care because he likes having a "scummy meta." His play relies on him intentionally playing into the fact that he has a scummy meta and that's bs.