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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 16:41 GMT
#567
You think he just made all that stuff up about ATLAS and P-Body?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:01 GMT
#590
I'm inclined to believe s&b. the claim just feels too...exact...to be fabricated.

The only ways I see it being fake are :

1) There is no pbody

This is a possibility, but I just remembered something. Check the callee game sometime around night 1 in the aperture mini-game. There was a smurf named pbody that posted something like "beep boop". Afaik, that was before roles went out, so I don't think it could have been s&b faking it. MAYBE s&b saw it and made up some elaborate story, but I doubt it.

2) he is scum with pbody

First, bodyguard makes much more sense as a town role. And second, after losing gf day 1, I don't really suspect scum s&b of giving up himself and his teammate on day 2. I think this is a pretty unlikely scenario.

3) he could be scum while pbody is town

This is a distinct possibility, but still I feel like bodyguard with multiple lives is more of a town role. At the very least, I wouldn't wan to lynch him today.


For now,

##vote: nisani201
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:03 GMT
#593
P.S. phone typing fucking sucks
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:06 GMT
#595
Oh, formatting:

##unvote
##vote: nisani201
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:14 GMT
#607
How convenient that nisani doesn't believe the claim when he's the one on the chopping block....
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:25 GMT
#616
@nisani: yes, I disagree with you. If there is a p-body, then he knows that s&b isn't lying. And assuming he isn't lying about his role, then whoever p-body is can get a free bodyguard on s&b because of the mechanic where whoever p-body targets, atlas targets as well.

So no, I don think p-body would necessarily claim right now. What does he gain from it? S&b isn't set to be lynched, so all he does is out himself.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:39 GMT
#622
On October 05 2012 02:35 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 02:34 Drazerk wrote:
ok Gonzaw's gone ignore all his posts on Nisani and follow me on lynching S+B


This almost makes me feel bad for my original vote on you, except you're aiming for SNB over Gonzaw. Although SNB would probably be third on my list after Gonzaw and Austin, just because I remember him being a bit more assertive when I've seen him.

So you think s&b made it all up?

What about my point about the p-body smurf in the caller game before roles went out?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:48 GMT
#626
@JH:

So you think it makes more sense that either he randomly picked the name pbody for his partner, or he saw the pbody smurf and made up an elaborate story and exact role details, than it does him actually telling the truth? I don't know if you're just being ginormously dense, or scum. Because in no way does that scenario make sense to me.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 17:58 GMT
#631
On October 05 2012 02:51 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 02:48 Keirathi wrote:
@JH:

So you think it makes more sense that either he randomly picked the name pbody for his partner, or he saw the pbody smurf and made up an elaborate story and exact role details, than it does him actually telling the truth? I don't know if you're just being ginormously dense, or scum. Because in no way does that scenario make sense to me.


Suggesting there's only two possible options, one of which must be true, neither of which is pleasant, is a logical fallacy. It's like asking me when I started cheating on my wife.

You're ignoring all kinds of random possible options, purely for the sake of discrediting me. You trying Gonzaw's style? You'll notice I don't give a rats fuck about what he tells me to vote either.

I gave 4 options when I said why I believed him. That he is telling the truth just makes the most sense. More often than not, the simple answer is the correct one, in my experience.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 20:19 GMT
#674
On October 05 2012 03:04 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 02:58 Keirathi wrote:
On October 05 2012 02:51 JingleHell wrote:
On October 05 2012 02:48 Keirathi wrote:
@JH:

So you think it makes more sense that either he randomly picked the name pbody for his partner, or he saw the pbody smurf and made up an elaborate story and exact role details, than it does him actually telling the truth? I don't know if you're just being ginormously dense, or scum. Because in no way does that scenario make sense to me.


Suggesting there's only two possible options, one of which must be true, neither of which is pleasant, is a logical fallacy. It's like asking me when I started cheating on my wife.

You're ignoring all kinds of random possible options, purely for the sake of discrediting me. You trying Gonzaw's style? You'll notice I don't give a rats fuck about what he tells me to vote either.

I gave 4 options when I said why I believed him. That he is telling the truth just makes the most sense. More often than not, the simple answer is the correct one, in my experience.


No, you gave ME two options. You said I must just be dense or scum, because I either believe he randomly made something up based on either X or Y.

That ignores the possibility of safe claims, third party, or all kinds of stuff.

Your "YOU MUST BE USELESS OR SCUM FOR DARING TO DISAGREE WITH ME" is an emotional reaction seeking and otherwise generally scummy tactic, but even so, I'm at least giving you the BOTD that you could just be absurdly egocentric.

Yea, you're right. I think you either have to be an idiot or scum to want to lynch a claimed KP-reduction role, especially if what he says is true about ATLAS-Pbody interactions. He's basically a double-shot medic every night until he eats enough KP to die.

If he's still alive in a couple of days, then maybe you have a case. Right now, all I see are two people hard pushing to get a claimed blue role lynched. Which, as I well know, is something that scum JingleHell would do.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 20:50 GMT
#687
On October 05 2012 05:29 JingleHell wrote:
Uhm, if you mean Newbie XVIII, wasn't that a fakeclaim, and rather blatant? Oh yeah, it was.

You're right, he was fake-claiming. AS A TOWNIE. And you, as scum, knew that he was town and pushed the lynch. This feels an awful lot the same.

On October 05 2012 05:29 JingleHell wrote:
As was discussed, there's plenty of reasons not to trust the claim, and to think he's scummy, so I think you're an idiot or scum to be so absolutist. Besides, who wanted consolidation D1?

Nisani seems too easy. Nobody is interested in my scum reads yet, I can at least understand a vote for SNB, so I consolidated. Make up your fucking mind. Or did consolidate mean "Do what I fucking tell you"?

Of course, yesterday you were SO right about perfection...

Maybe you could explain your read on Nisani a bit then? Considering the only time you've even mentioned him in your entire filter is when you said "I'd rather see SNB than Nisani" as you consolidated onto him.

And I would argue that this is the exact opposite of an "easy" lynch. Its 6 votes to 4. That's a pretty polarized town.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 20:53 GMT
#688
EBWOP: Also, its funny that you mention iamperfection. Because, despite getting lynched, you didn't offer a single opinion on him at all. Literally not one.

I may have been wrong, but at least I wasn't afraid of being wrong. You just ignored him completely.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 21:05 GMT
#692
OR maybe you should just stop and use your brain for a second.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 21:09 GMT
#695
I'm not attacking you. I'm giving you a friendly suggestion.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 21:10 GMT
#696
EBWOP: What I mean take a minute to relax and actually think about what has happened today. I know you're not an idiot. Calm down and think rationally.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 21:46 GMT
#700
Okay, its too close. If even one person switches now, S&B will be lynched.

I am P-Body

It should be pretty obvious from my posting since S&B claimed, but here I am specifically saying it. *THATS* why I argued for him. My role pm specifically mentioned ATLAS, and his claim matches the details I got in my PM.

I can confirm that I target whoever he targets, and he targets whoever I target.

And no, I'm not going to disclose my power.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 21:48 GMT
#701
Also, its fucking bullshit that I am being forced to claim today. Goddamnit I'm annoyed.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 21:50 GMT
#706
Except two townies because if you lynch him then what's going to keep me alive?

I seriously don't get the "LYNCH THE TOWNIE TO CONFIRM ANOTHER TOWNIE" sentiment.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 22:30 GMT
#728
So, i walked away from the computer to cooldown.

Now I see that Draz threw a lemon grenade at me? I dont know if its real, but:

##Unvote
##Vote: Drazerk


If he's scum, he knows that mine+S&B's combined powers would give both of us immunity to him (S&B targets me, i get protected. I target S&B, he gets my power. Then I get my own power, and he gets his own power). So by killing me, he gives himself a chance to actually get S&B off of his ass.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 22:33 GMT
#730
Wait, actually fuck. I may sort of believe Nisani, but I 99.9% believe S&B. Everything that he describes just matches what I know to be fact too much. I can't let S&B die when at least Nisani is still a coinflip.

##Unvote
##Vote: Nisani201
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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