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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 19:45 GMT
#661
On October 05 2012 04:35 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 04:30 strongandbig wrote:
On October 05 2012 04:27 JingleHell wrote:
On October 05 2012 04:24 strongandbig wrote:
I don't think drazerk needs to be today's lynch. I'm voting nisani because I think he's scum.

I just want drazerk to die and I want everyone to tell him how shitty he is so maybe he changes a little.


Hey SNB, didn't you flip complete apeshit about me and VE wanting to lynch Grush for being useless in PTP3? Didn't you try to get VE lynched for it?

Awkward...


three differences:

1. I don't actively hate grush. I'm admitting that emotion is involved here.
2. I also think Drazerk is scum, because of the circular reasoning thing I've talked about before, and because of the way he was flipping his vote around day 1.
3. I'm not saying "we should be lynching drazerk right now instead of scumhunting other people," which was my problem with VE's policy lynch on grush. If you notice, my vote isn't even on drazerk right now. I just think we should be aware that he's not trying to help town and I think he should die for it.


The fact is, you accused VE of being scummy for it on multiple occasions, and called it completely scummy to try and kill someone just for being bad or being someone you dislike playing with.

Now you're pushing Draz for the same reason. By your own logic, it's scum behavior, so we should lynch you for it...

Or, in your own words...

+ Show Spoiler [PTP3 Quote] +
On August 21 2012 07:04 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 06:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Grush has never been interested in playing a game of Mafia that I've ever played in with him. I want him out of my town.

##Vote: grush


...............................................


are you serious right now?

you'd rather policy lynch grush?

you know we do have actual discussion of scum candidates going on right now, even if the cases aren't great neither are the responses so there's plenty of ground for a real lynch

and almost certainly like a million vigs in this game

and you want to policy lynch grush??????

are you serious right now?


scuuuuuum claaaaaaaaaim

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359357&currentpage=23#452
Make sure you check the whole filter, maybe with "All, Ctrl+F, grush".
Meta is a bitch.


Are you completely ignoring what I just said about "not trying to get us to policy lynch drazerk" and "how I'm voting nisani instead of him right now"? Please explain to me how I'm pushing the scum agenda of "getting people complacent about a policy lynch" when I'm also re-bringing-up some evidence for why he's scum, as well as I'm voting for one of the other two lynch candidates and saying we should scumhunt at people other than drazerk as well as him? None of that are things that VE and you were doing with the grush thing. You were just saying "grush is bad let's kill him." That's different.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 19:45 GMT
#662
Your whole case on me is a policy lynch...
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 19:47 GMT
#663
1. it's not because you're bad it's because you're anti town.
2. it's not trying to get people to stop scumhunting.
3. you're scum.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 04 2012 19:47 GMT
#664
On October 05 2012 04:45 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 04:35 JingleHell wrote:
On October 05 2012 04:30 strongandbig wrote:
On October 05 2012 04:27 JingleHell wrote:
On October 05 2012 04:24 strongandbig wrote:
I don't think drazerk needs to be today's lynch. I'm voting nisani because I think he's scum.

I just want drazerk to die and I want everyone to tell him how shitty he is so maybe he changes a little.


Hey SNB, didn't you flip complete apeshit about me and VE wanting to lynch Grush for being useless in PTP3? Didn't you try to get VE lynched for it?

Awkward...


three differences:

1. I don't actively hate grush. I'm admitting that emotion is involved here.
2. I also think Drazerk is scum, because of the circular reasoning thing I've talked about before, and because of the way he was flipping his vote around day 1.
3. I'm not saying "we should be lynching drazerk right now instead of scumhunting other people," which was my problem with VE's policy lynch on grush. If you notice, my vote isn't even on drazerk right now. I just think we should be aware that he's not trying to help town and I think he should die for it.


The fact is, you accused VE of being scummy for it on multiple occasions, and called it completely scummy to try and kill someone just for being bad or being someone you dislike playing with.

Now you're pushing Draz for the same reason. By your own logic, it's scum behavior, so we should lynch you for it...

Or, in your own words...

+ Show Spoiler [PTP3 Quote] +
On August 21 2012 07:04 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 06:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Grush has never been interested in playing a game of Mafia that I've ever played in with him. I want him out of my town.

##Vote: grush


...............................................


are you serious right now?

you'd rather policy lynch grush?

you know we do have actual discussion of scum candidates going on right now, even if the cases aren't great neither are the responses so there's plenty of ground for a real lynch

and almost certainly like a million vigs in this game

and you want to policy lynch grush??????

are you serious right now?


scuuuuuum claaaaaaaaaim

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359357&currentpage=23#452
Make sure you check the whole filter, maybe with "All, Ctrl+F, grush".
Meta is a bitch.


Are you completely ignoring what I just said about "not trying to get us to policy lynch drazerk" and "how I'm voting nisani instead of him right now"? Please explain to me how I'm pushing the scum agenda of "getting people complacent about a policy lynch" when I'm also re-bringing-up some evidence for why he's scum, as well as I'm voting for one of the other two lynch candidates and saying we should scumhunt at people other than drazerk as well as him? None of that are things that VE and you were doing with the grush thing. You were just saying "grush is bad let's kill him." That's different.


The fact that you're trying to push something you've called scummy, while your vote is entirely elsewhere, just suggests you might not be concerned with where the lynch lands. There's two sides to every coin, things can look scummy or not.

And yes, I'm choosing to see scummy. Your point? You going to keep using a mixture of insults and QQ to try and change people's votes?
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 19:50 GMT
#665
- who am i insulting (except drazerk)
- obviously I'm going to try to get people not to vote me. I'm town and I want to avoid a mislynch.
- I think nisani is more likely to be scum. I also think he's more likely to get lynched. I want to lynch scum.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 04 2012 19:52 GMT
#666
On October 05 2012 04:47 strongandbig wrote:
1. it's not because you're bad it's because you're anti town. So is Grush, invalid point.
2. it's not trying to get people to stop scumhunting. Me and VE were both town that game, we didn't want to stop scumhunting from happening.

3. you're scum.

Fixed that for you.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 19:53 GMT
#667
alright whatever.

Let me ask something else - drazerk I've tried to explain why I spent so much of the first few days focused on you. Why are you so focused on me?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 19:53 GMT
#668
At this stage a mislynch on you wouldn't be the worst in the world...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 19:55 GMT
#669
I didn't focus on you I targeted a lot of other people... you've stuck on me
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 19:57 GMT
#670
why do you want people to lynch me
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 19:59 GMT
#671
Because I shot you and you survived
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 19:59 GMT
#672
why did you shoot me
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 20:01 GMT
#673
Why would you shoot me if you was the Vigilante
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 04 2012 20:19 GMT
#674
On October 05 2012 03:04 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 02:58 Keirathi wrote:
On October 05 2012 02:51 JingleHell wrote:
On October 05 2012 02:48 Keirathi wrote:
@JH:

So you think it makes more sense that either he randomly picked the name pbody for his partner, or he saw the pbody smurf and made up an elaborate story and exact role details, than it does him actually telling the truth? I don't know if you're just being ginormously dense, or scum. Because in no way does that scenario make sense to me.


Suggesting there's only two possible options, one of which must be true, neither of which is pleasant, is a logical fallacy. It's like asking me when I started cheating on my wife.

You're ignoring all kinds of random possible options, purely for the sake of discrediting me. You trying Gonzaw's style? You'll notice I don't give a rats fuck about what he tells me to vote either.

I gave 4 options when I said why I believed him. That he is telling the truth just makes the most sense. More often than not, the simple answer is the correct one, in my experience.


No, you gave ME two options. You said I must just be dense or scum, because I either believe he randomly made something up based on either X or Y.

That ignores the possibility of safe claims, third party, or all kinds of stuff.

Your "YOU MUST BE USELESS OR SCUM FOR DARING TO DISAGREE WITH ME" is an emotional reaction seeking and otherwise generally scummy tactic, but even so, I'm at least giving you the BOTD that you could just be absurdly egocentric.

Yea, you're right. I think you either have to be an idiot or scum to want to lynch a claimed KP-reduction role, especially if what he says is true about ATLAS-Pbody interactions. He's basically a double-shot medic every night until he eats enough KP to die.

If he's still alive in a couple of days, then maybe you have a case. Right now, all I see are two people hard pushing to get a claimed blue role lynched. Which, as I well know, is something that scum JingleHell would do.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 20:20 GMT
#675
because playing with you makes the game less fun for me
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 20:20 GMT
#676
well actually i wouldn't shoot you. I have a perfect record aiming at scum so I would shoot nisani because I want to keep that record. but I would strongly consider shooting you for that reason.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 20:21 GMT
#677
ebwop that was @drazerk I really need to start quoting people
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 04 2012 20:26 GMT
#678
so drazerk why did you shoot me
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 04 2012 20:28 GMT
#679
To keep myself alive longer which is pro town as you say so yourself.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 04 2012 20:29 GMT
#680
On October 05 2012 05:19 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 03:04 JingleHell wrote:
On October 05 2012 02:58 Keirathi wrote:
On October 05 2012 02:51 JingleHell wrote:
On October 05 2012 02:48 Keirathi wrote:
@JH:

So you think it makes more sense that either he randomly picked the name pbody for his partner, or he saw the pbody smurf and made up an elaborate story and exact role details, than it does him actually telling the truth? I don't know if you're just being ginormously dense, or scum. Because in no way does that scenario make sense to me.


Suggesting there's only two possible options, one of which must be true, neither of which is pleasant, is a logical fallacy. It's like asking me when I started cheating on my wife.

You're ignoring all kinds of random possible options, purely for the sake of discrediting me. You trying Gonzaw's style? You'll notice I don't give a rats fuck about what he tells me to vote either.

I gave 4 options when I said why I believed him. That he is telling the truth just makes the most sense. More often than not, the simple answer is the correct one, in my experience.


No, you gave ME two options. You said I must just be dense or scum, because I either believe he randomly made something up based on either X or Y.

That ignores the possibility of safe claims, third party, or all kinds of stuff.

Your "YOU MUST BE USELESS OR SCUM FOR DARING TO DISAGREE WITH ME" is an emotional reaction seeking and otherwise generally scummy tactic, but even so, I'm at least giving you the BOTD that you could just be absurdly egocentric.

Yea, you're right. I think you either have to be an idiot or scum to want to lynch a claimed KP-reduction role, especially if what he says is true about ATLAS-Pbody interactions. He's basically a double-shot medic every night until he eats enough KP to die.

If he's still alive in a couple of days, then maybe you have a case. Right now, all I see are two people hard pushing to get a claimed blue role lynched. Which, as I well know, is something that scum JingleHell would do.


Uhm, if you mean Newbie XVIII, wasn't that a fakeclaim, and rather blatant? Oh yeah, it was.

As was discussed, there's plenty of reasons not to trust the claim, and to think he's scummy, so I think you're an idiot or scum to be so absolutist. Besides, who wanted consolidation D1?

Nisani seems too easy. Nobody is interested in my scum reads yet, I can at least understand a vote for SNB, so I consolidated. Make up your fucking mind. Or did consolidate mean "Do what I fucking tell you"?

Of course, yesterday you were SO right about perfection...
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