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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 02:42 GMT
#2254
On October 11 2012 11:40 Z-BosoN wrote:
I agree, this is pointless. DP, try thinking a bit more before you post, it helps.
Anyways, my vote stands on kush. While I'm finding it odd that he's been a lot more different, I don't think that weighs more than VE's cop claim on him.


LOL
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 02:44 GMT
#2256
On October 11 2012 11:41 Z-BosoN wrote:
Omfg, he's that dense.
I'm not trying to mislynch you off of kush. I'm trying to LYNCH you because I find you scum.
See this clusterfuck I've bothered to make?
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 14:42 Z-BosoN wrote:
For contrasting purposes.

First view on kush:

On October 07 2012 20:18 DarthPunk wrote:
About Kush's analysis. That is beyond anything I have seen from him in terms of actual quality analysis in the 3 games of his I obs'd and the 2 I have since played with him. It is a striking difference from that play and even the play in this game.
Either he is improving in his play. or he is being coached in the QT. I find both plausible at this point and certainly don;t want to lynch him for sound analysis.

That being said. I do want to lynch him for All the reasons I have already brought up.


What the fuck is this post right here? I don't want to lynch him for these reasons. I want to lynch him for those reasons. Why the hell is he even bringing that up? This flimsiness is characteristic of scum. Especially DarthPunk. In XXVIII when he got tunnel vision on kush, he didn't even begin to make a concession of any type.
So right now, he's made clear he wants to lynch kush, despite him showing improved play (for some reason, he feels it's necessary to mention this).

Afterwards:
On October 09 2012 17:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 09 2012 17:20 kushm4sta wrote:
DP and VE have me voted.. seriously. I realized I'm biased but from my perspective I seem pretty damn green.
Marv defending me means nothing. If that is your primary reasons for voting me then that is weak and you know it.
DP your primary reason for voting me is that I fucked with you? You don't see how that is something a town or scum kush could have done? If anything it's a null tell.
Look at my play, if you can bear to drudge through my filter.
@VE your activity has been really bad and if you are town I doubt you put much thought into this vote. Why would you vote for an outlier candidate instead of a popular one? You haven't done of the legwork to make a case against me and convince others.


You Employed WIFOM against me in order to mask your scum slips and meta. By intentionally making scum slips and employing your scum meta.

It is the scummiest thing that has happened in this thread. And bvy god you should have been lynched for it days ago.

It even caused ToutEstChaos to change his mind and make you his number one scum read.

A confirmed town thinks you were the most likely scum.

You shat all over the thread.

You have barely scum hunted despite a lengthy filter.

You have proven that you are aware of your meta so that is now useless.

You employed Wifom to mask your scumslips and scum meta.

Marv defended you before he was caught.

Hapa defended you before he was caught.

As soon as you became toutEstchaos' number one scum read he died.

The only argument in your favor comes from a suspicious player in his own right. And is comprised of pure WIFOM and speculation.

I have not voted for you so now you are lying or not reading.

And the case against you is far more than you 'fucking with me' which in itself is far to simplistic an explanation.





Then ends with this post:
On October 10 2012 08:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 10 2012 08:35 kushm4sta wrote:
gg dp. If I flip town will you admit that you are bad? because that would almost make it worth it.


LOL. So bad I caught you twice in a row. You are not flipping town. Obviously.

Also:
On October 10 2012 08:41 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 10 2012 08:39 kushm4sta wrote:
dp this is important: if I flip town are you bad?


You aren't flipping town kush.


Now what's interesting about this is that he finds me scummy for including the possibility that kush may flip town. If he thinks kush will flip scum, for sure, as he says, why is he targeting me for considering this possibility?. One may think that he thinks I'm trying to defend my scumbuddy. But that's not what he includes here:
On October 10 2012 14:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 10 2012 14:03 Z-BosoN wrote:
Kush, you are acting a lot more townie this game when confronted to a lynch.
I find it weird how DP is making no mention of this, since he's the "kush expert" here


I have mentioned it. I have also mentioned how he is aware of his meta and has employed it in WIFOM bombing me. So he could easily have changed it. And lets be honest. Getting caught so fast last game would have been an obvious catalyst for working on an incredibly transparent meta.

This is not the first time he has been confronted with pressure and I would have originally thought this was a town tell for kush. I even had a town read on him when I replaced in. But his WIFOM against me showed a willingness to both abuse and alter his meta. To the point where I don;t feel it is enough to clear him Especially with the multiple scummy things he has done.

Also. If you feel that kush is town. Then you should unvote him. Voting for someone and then protesting that vote is scummy as fuck.

In fact. The biggest thing that makes me wary of lynching Kush is that you seem to be trying to milk town cred if Kush flips green.

In fact. That is very very scummy.



So, Darthpunk, are you or are you not sure that he is scum? You attack me for considering that he might be townie, yet you make that same consideration yourself? Very weird. Very weird indeed.




Also, his only scumhunting from the last three pages is this list:
On October 07 2012 16:20 DarthPunk wrote:
Also. Where the fuck are:

Shiao Pi

Mattchew

BloodyC0bbler

These are experienced players that have had almost zero thread presence since I replaced in to the game.

I mean I think Kush is scummy as shit. But at least he is making a contribution and posting. Even if his posts are crap. They exist and he has thread presence.


And a couple of other aggressive cases against ShiaoPi. He also reiterates the meta arguments brought up by our smurfy friend ToutEstChaos. Another useless post:

On October 09 2012 11:03 DarthPunk wrote:
I have to agree with Keirathi about sloosh. Even as 3rd party he contributed more than he has this game. And he even pushed a case on scum S&B. This game I barely even know he is playing. He hasn't really scum hunted and combined with switching off the node wagon back to shady he looks very suspicious.

I also agree that it is strange for hapa to have pushed risk so hard if he was town. I know this is somewhat WIFOM. But I don't see the point of Immediately pushing your scum buddy after you lose marv.


I feel Like VE fits into that whole group of scummy/lurking vets.

BC
Matt
Sloosh
VE etc.

They can't all be scum. But out of that group I think Matt and Sloosh look the worst.

Also Shiao Pi continues to lurk so I don;t know wtf is up with him. Yeah his meta has him sort of inactive. But not as badly as this game. It could be a by product of the boring past cycles. But I would be watching him.


So DP has spent much of the last three pages in his filtering tunneling kush, and made some posts that seem more like he's giving off the impression he wants to scumhunt without generally doing so.
He's also criticizing me for something he himself noted earlier on, but quickly changed his mind on the subject. It seems to me like he's seizing the opportunity to use kush as an excuse to not bother reading the thread. His "suspicion" on me seems fake as all hell, and I think he's scum.

#Fos DarthPunk


Yea.


So you are not trying to mislynch me off the back of kush? Except the majority of your case is about me tunnelling kush and not thinking he is townie.

Cool story.

The rest is just shit.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 02:45 GMT
#2257
On October 11 2012 11:43 Keirathi wrote:
inb4 Z-Bo and DP both scum distancing themselves from each other and the kush lynch


Right. You going to contribute anything useful keir? Or are you just scum watching this and laughing from the sidelines?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 02:47 GMT
#2259
On October 11 2012 11:46 kushm4sta wrote:
Why hasn't zbo answered my question.. i asked so nice many times.
Z-BOSON please please please: What do you think my alignment is and how certain are you?


Cause he is the most obvious most blatant scum ever. He is more scummy than Kush with a RED CHECK.

Go figure.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 02:48 GMT
#2261
EBWOP. Holy shit I am a corsair now. On that note IMA get lunch.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 03:12 GMT
#2267
On October 11 2012 11:47 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 11:46 kushm4sta wrote:
Why hasn't zbo answered my question.. i asked so nice many times.
Z-BOSON please please please: What do you think my alignment is and how certain are you?

21.4% town
78.6% scum
100% useless


So Z-B thinks Kush is scum

His case against me is that I am tunnelling kush and don't think Kush is town.

And he says that he is not setting me up for if Kush flips green.

Despite the fact his whole case is useless if kush flips red.

Burn him with fire.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 03:15 GMT
#2270
On October 11 2012 12:13 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 12:00 kushm4sta wrote:
1 hour.
Keirathi you know I'm town. Save yourself the guilt of voting for an innocent.

@keirathi Looks like I'm going to get lynched. When I flip are you going to push for VE lynch? Or will it pretty much be back to square one before VE ever claimed?

I'm not going to feel guilty voting for a townie with a red check. That's just the way the game works. I personally believed that you were town because of your interactions with marv, but the smart play is not to trust my gut and to go with the claimed check, because I've been pretty terribly wrong with town reads in the past (seriously, go back and look at my reads in Newbie XXII. they were roflbad).

As far as pushing a VE lynch....I don't know. VE's claim timing was...weird. But its also weird that he as scum would be willing to trade himself 1-for-1 with you. No offense, but you're an easy lynch to push because half of the things you say don't make sense from a townie perspective. I don't see why scum VE would want to trade 1-for-1 with you, when their scum team was already hemorrhaging members.


VE is cop. There is no way he would trade 1 for 1 with kush. Especially after Marv and Hapa go down.

This is all WIFOM of course. But I don't see VE fake claiming.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 03:19 GMT
#2274
On October 11 2012 12:17 kushm4sta wrote:
How is this 1 for 1 someone please explain to me?
In what circumstance can his claim be proven to be fake?


He is risking getting lynched for your mislynch. Why would he take that risk when he could probably pushed a mislynch without taking that risk. You are right in that it is WIFOM however. and that should be acknowledged.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 03:23 GMT
#2276
On October 11 2012 12:19 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 12:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 11 2012 11:47 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 11 2012 11:46 kushm4sta wrote:
Why hasn't zbo answered my question.. i asked so nice many times.
Z-BOSON please please please: What do you think my alignment is and how certain are you?

21.4% town
78.6% scum
100% useless


So Z-B thinks Kush is scum

His case against me is that I am tunnelling kush and don't think Kush is town.

And he says that he is not setting me up for if Kush flips green.

Despite the fact his whole case is useless if kush flips red.

Burn him with fire.


Can you not shut the fuck up?
I think you are retard and a scum.
You think I'm a retard and a scum.
Let other people read and decide for themselves, you are just being anti-town here. Seriously.


Your case has no weight without kush flipping green. Which you say you think is highly likely. That does not match up with pushing a case that is useless without a kush green flip.

It is not anti town to point out how your case is scummy your arguments hinge on something you state to be highly unlikely.

You are scum and I am not going to stop pushing you.

If you think kush is 75% scum. How does it make me scummy for tunnelling him and not thinking he is town?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 03:24 GMT
#2277
EBWOP: Highly unlikely
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 03:41 GMT
#2285
Yep coag makes sense. Sorry Kush.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 03:49 GMT
#2287
On October 11 2012 12:40 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah I guess the doubt will always be there if i'm not lynched


Have you changed your reads? You should dump them before you die.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 04:14 GMT
#2293
GG kush. I am bad. You are better than me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 04:39 GMT
#2303
Why would an insane give a role in contrast with VT. Enforcer is goon right? So if you were insane he should have come up enforcer.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 04:39 GMT
#2304
BTW. we need to lynch Z -Boson.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 05:01 GMT
#2312
VE. Please read the exchange between myself and Z-B and give your thoughts. It's kind of important if you want to lynch him.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 11 2012 05:05 GMT
#2315
On October 11 2012 14:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
No I'm done reading for now DP. I'm going to smoke, sleep and read in the morning.


OK. Night ^_^
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 00:34 GMT
#2405
I believe that VE is a cop of some description. Claiming to trade one for one with Kush of all people is just silly. Especially after Scum lost Marv and Hapa consecutively. What you are suggesting is that after scum lost two members the rest of them decide that VisceraEyes known to be a good scum player should fake claim cop with a green check on kush.

I find that scenario INCREDIBLY unlikely. Sanity is certainly in question. AS is the possibility of a framer or something similar. But we should not be lynching VE right now.


I find it very interesting that Z - Boson has dropped his pressure of me. Despite what he 'foresaw' (despite thinking it was highly unlikely) in his case coming true.

I want to lynch Z - Boson. He clearly tried to entrap me with a green kush flip and his case relied upon this. Despite his vote for kush and stating kush was 75% red.

He also stopped the lynch of scum day one by throwing away his vote. Even though he says he wasnted neither to get lynched. What he was actually doing, and every thinking rational individual would know this, was lynching shady and saving scum.

His 'I thought neither was scum so voted for neither' Is silly as it was clear that his actions would cause a shady lynch. And save node.

What he actually did with his vote was: I prefer shady to be lynched rather than node.

That is Scummy. Combine it with trying to entrap me with clear foreknowledge of kush's flip Despite calling him red and voting for him.

he expressed doubt over kush;s alignment. And instead of attempting to lynch someone else like the others who doubted the claim. He used his doubt to set up a further mislynch

Z- Boson is scum and must be lynched.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 00:35 GMT
#2406
EBWOP: Red check on kush
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 12 2012 00:51 GMT
#2409
What would the point of a fake claim be? Was kush so vitally important to get rid of that scum would bother potentially trading VE for him. I don't think so. Especially after the inactivity of so many and the lack of scumhunting and discussion stemming from the two confirmed scum lynches.

It doesn't make any sense at all to fake claim cop.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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