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Shiao, Coag and Sloosh appearing within 8minutes after a few Shiao votes go down. If I am to move to a secondary target, thats the kind of stuff thats gonna decide where my vote go. Both Matt and Shiao are similarly scummy because of their inactivity to me, but the sudden resistance appearing for Shiao after several hours of very surprisingly low activity despite the very unfavourable situation for town with votes everywhere. Thats might definitely tip me over.
Couple that with:
On October 14 2012 04:31 Mattchew wrote:
also, if someone links me to a newbie game (VE you did this too WTF) for a meta read you have got to be kidding. I would say anyone under like 7 - 10 games should never be lynched on meta because there is so much room to improve and change styles
Which is likely directed at me. And since I know Im town, a scum should have little reason to do this.
Heavily leaning towards a Shiao vote here if I am to switch.
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On October 14 2012 10:51 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 10:43 Keirathi wrote:On October 14 2012 10:39 Coagulation wrote:
what the fuck would a no lynch do for us. Where did the KP go? It had to go somewhere. If they had an ability they could trade KP for, then it would probably activate today. Although I guess it could be something like Delay too. I don't buy that mafia didn't send in kills or roleblock. ermmm... What the fuck would a no lynch do for us?
There little reason to discuss that atm. You know he knows there will be no no-lynch. Stop insinuating that and focus on the real issue at hand: the lynch.
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On October 14 2012 10:52 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 10:50 Kreb wrote:Shiao, Coag and Sloosh appearing within 8minutes after a few Shiao votes go down. If I am to move to a secondary target, thats the kind of stuff thats gonna decide where my vote go. Both Matt and Shiao are similarly scummy because of their inactivity to me, but the sudden resistance appearing for Shiao after several hours of very surprisingly low activity despite the very unfavourable situation for town with votes everywhere. Thats might definitely tip me over. Couple that with: On October 14 2012 04:31 Mattchew wrote:
also, if someone links me to a newbie game (VE you did this too WTF) for a meta read you have got to be kidding. I would say anyone under like 7 - 10 games should never be lynched on meta because there is so much room to improve and change styles Which is likely directed at me. And since I know Im town, a scum should have little reason to do this. Heavily leaning towards a Shiao vote here if I am to switch. Wait.. You think im scum? ....
Not atm no. But I cant say I've thought it through much either. Theres probably ways you can be scum, but that very much an uninteresting topic atm since you wont be lynched.
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On October 14 2012 10:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 10:50 Kreb wrote:Shiao, Coag and Sloosh appearing within 8minutes after a few Shiao votes go down. If I am to move to a secondary target, thats the kind of stuff thats gonna decide where my vote go. Both Matt and Shiao are similarly scummy because of their inactivity to me, but the sudden resistance appearing for Shiao after several hours of very surprisingly low activity despite the very unfavourable situation for town with votes everywhere. Thats might definitely tip me over. Couple that with: On October 14 2012 04:31 Mattchew wrote:
also, if someone links me to a newbie game (VE you did this too WTF) for a meta read you have got to be kidding. I would say anyone under like 7 - 10 games should never be lynched on meta because there is so much room to improve and change styles Which is likely directed at me. And since I know Im town, a scum should have little reason to do this. Heavily leaning towards a Shiao vote here if I am to switch. How is it sudden resistance? To my understanding Shiao was not really ever on the docket until what? an hour or two ago, tops of 3? Meanwhile you have a player like mattchew who has been on near universally everyones scumlist at some point through this game. Why is a player who has been so apathetic and unhelpful, who isn't even playing in the interests of the town getting a free pass repeatedly? The entire shiao wagon looks like its designed to keep mattchew alive another day which I have no clue as to why.
Its sudden because..... it happened right after the votes went down?
Though its definitely a possibility its a designed wagon.
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On October 14 2012 11:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:01 Kreb wrote:On October 14 2012 10:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 14 2012 10:50 Kreb wrote:Shiao, Coag and Sloosh appearing within 8minutes after a few Shiao votes go down. If I am to move to a secondary target, thats the kind of stuff thats gonna decide where my vote go. Both Matt and Shiao are similarly scummy because of their inactivity to me, but the sudden resistance appearing for Shiao after several hours of very surprisingly low activity despite the very unfavourable situation for town with votes everywhere. Thats might definitely tip me over. Couple that with: On October 14 2012 04:31 Mattchew wrote:
also, if someone links me to a newbie game (VE you did this too WTF) for a meta read you have got to be kidding. I would say anyone under like 7 - 10 games should never be lynched on meta because there is so much room to improve and change styles Which is likely directed at me. And since I know Im town, a scum should have little reason to do this. Heavily leaning towards a Shiao vote here if I am to switch. How is it sudden resistance? To my understanding Shiao was not really ever on the docket until what? an hour or two ago, tops of 3? Meanwhile you have a player like mattchew who has been on near universally everyones scumlist at some point through this game. Why is a player who has been so apathetic and unhelpful, who isn't even playing in the interests of the town getting a free pass repeatedly? The entire shiao wagon looks like its designed to keep mattchew alive another day which I have no clue as to why. Its sudden because..... it happened right after the votes went down? Though its definitely a possibility its a designed wagon. Given how close it is to lynch deadline, when else would it happen? If people waited till just before deadline it would look insanely weird. Given the Shiaopi lynch is a very late choice in the day, it should be getting all resistance to it early.
Theres been surprisingly little activity last hours. That tells me mafia was fine with the situation at hand.
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On October 14 2012 11:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:07 Kreb wrote:On October 14 2012 11:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 14 2012 11:01 Kreb wrote:On October 14 2012 10:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 14 2012 10:50 Kreb wrote:Shiao, Coag and Sloosh appearing within 8minutes after a few Shiao votes go down. If I am to move to a secondary target, thats the kind of stuff thats gonna decide where my vote go. Both Matt and Shiao are similarly scummy because of their inactivity to me, but the sudden resistance appearing for Shiao after several hours of very surprisingly low activity despite the very unfavourable situation for town with votes everywhere. Thats might definitely tip me over. Couple that with: On October 14 2012 04:31 Mattchew wrote:
also, if someone links me to a newbie game (VE you did this too WTF) for a meta read you have got to be kidding. I would say anyone under like 7 - 10 games should never be lynched on meta because there is so much room to improve and change styles Which is likely directed at me. And since I know Im town, a scum should have little reason to do this. Heavily leaning towards a Shiao vote here if I am to switch. How is it sudden resistance? To my understanding Shiao was not really ever on the docket until what? an hour or two ago, tops of 3? Meanwhile you have a player like mattchew who has been on near universally everyones scumlist at some point through this game. Why is a player who has been so apathetic and unhelpful, who isn't even playing in the interests of the town getting a free pass repeatedly? The entire shiao wagon looks like its designed to keep mattchew alive another day which I have no clue as to why. Its sudden because..... it happened right after the votes went down? Though its definitely a possibility its a designed wagon. Given how close it is to lynch deadline, when else would it happen? If people waited till just before deadline it would look insanely weird. Given the Shiaopi lynch is a very late choice in the day, it should be getting all resistance to it early. Theres been surprisingly little activity last hours. That tells me mafia was fine with the situation at hand. Or people weren't around to talk. Any way you look at it you can find reasons to dislike mattchew, and dislike shiaopi. The obvious difference to me which seperates the two is one has actively said he doesn't care, promised to do things that he doesn't follow through on and attempts to be active while never being around to leave his mark on the thread. These are all scum characteristics and everytime he is mentioned as a possible lynch case it suddenly gets pushed aside for other reasons, or people just stop discussing it and move to different things. Look at the last game where BM, and Grush were left alive in a lylo situation and how by not being around 1 townie lost the game. I honestly can say I don't ever want to see a repeat of that.
Most of what you say about Matt can be said about both BM and Grush last game too, and they were both town. People seemed to think BM was some kind of vet player but he was awful in my opinion. I have no problem putting Matt in the same category.
However, you arguing strongly for this one means something too because I very much trust you to be town. And as someone pointed out, I dont like voting for the same target as VE does. Im not gonna switch to either of Matt/Shiao yet, but at least the recent discussion is giving me new info on it.
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On October 14 2012 11:27 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:On October 14 2012 11:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
DP, VE is not getting lynched today -_- We have an hour. Why not? atm I want to lynch him tomorrow. The lack of kp and the fact that he is acting extremely weird today gives room the possibility that VE actually wants to get lynched, and thus confirm mementoss and BC as town, which is what keirathi is going nuts about above, and something in which I actually consider to be a real possibility.
If he wants to get lynched as town, why wouldnt he say it out load?
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BC, whats your thought on DP?
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On October 14 2012 11:35 DarthPunk wrote:Why? do you think I am scum?
Im flip flopping around quite a lot right now. Trying to consider everything since the VE lynch doesnt seem to take off. Strongly believe you to be scum? No. But right now my biggest scum read is voting ShiaoPi and two people making the wierdest cases on me are voting Matt. Matt however at least said something I can relate to as townish. On the other hand, BC who I consider to look very much town is heavily favoring Matt. Meanwhile, people are popping up with votes your way too. And your jump on VE doesnt seem completely geniune either considering you've had days of time to join me on that wagon. Im still open to all these three + staying on VE.
Can you blame me for flip flopping around?
I've already come to terms with that I'll be called scummy by some people no matter who I vote for so thats no problem.
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I agree I should. And I will most likely unvote VE. Wanna make up my mind on who to switch for though.
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On October 14 2012 11:54 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:52 Kreb wrote:
I agree I should. And I will most likely unvote VE. Wanna make up my mind on who to switch for though. No. Wtf? you should vote for who out of matt/shiao you think is more likely to be scum.
What did I say which contradicted this? Of course Im heavily considering Matt/Shiao atm?
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On October 14 2012 11:57 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:55 Kreb wrote:On October 14 2012 11:54 DarthPunk wrote:On October 14 2012 11:52 Kreb wrote:
I agree I should. And I will most likely unvote VE. Wanna make up my mind on who to switch for though. No. Wtf? you should vote for who out of matt/shiao you think is more likely to be scum. What did I say which contradicted this? Of course Im heavily considering Matt/Shiao atm? I meant wtf? as in why would you ask someone you just considered scum to make up your mind for you?
Dude, you need to quote better. Where did I ask anything in that quote? I dont get what you're trying to say.
On October 14 2012 11:52 Kreb wrote:
I agree I should. And I will most likely unvote VE. Wanna make up my mind on who to switch for though.
Wheres the question? Theres no question there.
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Ok, here we go. More recent reasonable arguments for Matt over Shiao. More players I consider trustable on the Matt side.
##Unvote VisceraEyes
##Vote Mattchew
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On October 14 2012 12:09 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 12:05 Kreb wrote:
Ok, here we go. More recent reasonable arguments for Matt over Shiao. More players I consider trustable on the Matt side.
##Unvote VisceraEyes
##Vote Mattchew who are the players you consider more trustable? whatever the fuck that means
Mainly ZB, BC and risk.
Oh, and trustworthy not trustable. Language error :<
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On October 14 2012 14:40 Z-BosoN wrote:
Is there a possibility that kush was actually scum and that mafia now have only one KP?
The only way that would be true is if Kush was the extra killer himself. Him alone giving mafia 1KP per night. Otherwise I dont see how it can explain all the other 2NK-nights.
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On October 14 2012 13:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
GG everyone.
VE is a confirmed PI, and mementoss confirmed power role. Neither are confirmed as town, but it is likely both are given they were both passively roleblocked by me. Coag is likely town as well.
Sloosh is scum, as is one of DP or shiaopi.
Sorry I couldn't be more help, but well, tis not my objective.
And with that I am pretty sure the day is over.
Good luck town, mafia dont deserve to win.
I dont get it. Nowhere in the hitman role PM does it say he has the power to role block? While it would explain the roleblocks nicely, isnt that supposed to be specified?
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On October 15 2012 00:41 Coagulation wrote:
I cant imagine BC would lie to us.
He doesnt seem like hes intending to lie. And him being the roleblocker would make sense because we've only got two claims. But night immune 3rd party + roleblocker when its not in the PM doesnt make sense either....
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Two roleblock claims that is of course.
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On October 15 2012 02:12 Mementoss wrote:I would say, sloosh shiao or risknuke Kreb seems like a whilecard to me. Not sure about him.
Why risknuke? Havent seen anyone target him really.
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9 left. 6/3 town/mafia. So mislynch next should mean town loses.
Lets 1v1 VE? Im all in.
##Vote VisceraEyes
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