EPTi moved to you because i did not like either the shady wagon or the node wagon and having read your filter, i did not like what i saw.
then when shady pulled his last minute return thing, it became a no-brainer to jump onto him.
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i moved to you because i did not like either the shady wagon or the node wagon and having read your filter, i did not like what i saw. then when shady pulled his last minute return thing, it became a no-brainer to jump onto him. | ||
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On October 02 2012 14:22 kushm4sta wrote: annal your case against me is dumb/lazy. I don't buy it. You've never played with newbs before? I doubt it. You go from what looks like contrived anger to buddy buddy jokes with VE. You derailed the Node bandwagon, thus securing the shady lynch. You acted like you didn't want shady lynch but your actions supported it. ##vote annul rofl @ blatant OMGUS | ||
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then i move for a directed verdict. and it would be granted. | ||
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On October 02 2012 14:30 BroodKingEXE wrote: Annul WTF is up with your kush scum read? You keep hinting that you think he is scum, but go out on the limb and commuinicate with him a couple times. i think he is scum. there is no "hinting." you don't stop all communication with your suspects. that is not how this game works. more communication is ALWAYS better. you never know what info you get and where it comes from | ||
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On October 02 2012 21:39 marvellosity wrote: I'll explain it a little more factually for you, Kreb. At the time I started the voting off, the austin wagon was already not getting off the ground. Before I laid my vote, the count was at Shady: 9, austin: 3. And in fact people were consolidating on to Shady; when I placed my vote, the previous 5 votes had gone on to Shady. For Node to be a 'distractionary' wagon, it would certainly be a distractionary wagon off of Shady. Now tell me how this makes sense? it looked an awful lot like shady was getting modkilled. easy way to take out two towns in one day.... | ||
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how do you know he is a scum? do you have more info than i do? "(2) annul has been posting about the node push now for 30 minutes. 11:10-11:40. At 11:40, he notes that he'll read node's filter after marv's. Node's filter is like...2 or 3 posts, and annul hasn't read it in the 30 minutes he's been casting doubt on this lynch." yes. the lynch wagon itself was much more worrisome. i had potent procedural arguments against it and did not even have to check the substantive claims because the procedure looked so ridiculously suspicious your "act 2" quote for me misinterprets my position. it is fucking obvious if you actually read my game that the "what i've been doing all day" quote clearly refers to his kush pushing. the rest of your act 2 stuff on me refers to me not seeing node say shady is pushing targets. this is further addressed in act 3. i make a clear, cogent, and logical argument that node's final line is future tense when the rest of the claim is past tense, so you CANNOT say "node says shady is pushing targets" when he himself uses future tense there as a predictor. "(1) It's still plainly there, no matter what tense you think the verb is" no. it isn't. this entire argument falls right here because it is rooted in this premise that is absolutely false. if you know about "scintillas of evidence" then you are at minimum a law student, since i HIGHLY doubt anyone else knows about scalia's famous line. if you are in my profession, you are more than aware of the nuances between grammatical tenses. the fact you are completely obfuscating this is very telling....... "Ah much better. Now Node is defending shady because...his trolling was silly and not scummy, and if he were scum, he wouldn't have stopped trolling so quickly...you know, it's not like the mods messaged him and told him to knock it off. Surely that wasn't why he stopped, surely he would have kept going if he were scum." yes, this is a defense. how can anyone ever argue that it is not a defense? rofl "annul's initial substantive argument for Node's townieness was that he (1) defended Shady and attacked kush; (2) which was what annul had been doing; and (3) annul didn't see the scumminess." no. #1 is "attacked kush." that is what #2 refers to. the "defended shady" part is included for filter analysis purposes. " If I had been defending Shady, like annul was, I would not be happy that Node also posted this defense, a bad defense, of Shady." again, i was not defending shady. i challenged the lynch itself (again, on procedural grounds), which is NOT necessarily a defense of the player. "Translation, "I would like to start a wagon on a new candidate with 25 minutes until lynch, after just disparaging another wagon for picking up 8 votes in 12 minutes. However, I want to hit majority in 25, with a completely new candidate and no case, go read his filter yourself."" yes. the choices were shady or node. shady was obviously not acting red at all (until his last minute bullshit, anyway) and i was trying to do my JOB as a town player and prevent what i thought was a potential mislynch. i was looking at filters trying to find something more suspicious than node.... and i did. (had i thought the kush train would roll, i'd have stayed there, but since people were not going on it, i had to try to find an alternative). i also thought it would be interesting to have people on the record comparing their reasons for the FAST node push vs a boson push that went nowhere. very interesting in fact.... maybe the reds ran the node train? "So Shady wasn't scum a moment ago. Nor was node scum." yes "We should vote Z-BosoN for no reason." no. your constant misrepresentations of my position are very worrisome. "But when Shady comes to thread, Shady is now scum. " yes. "Shady is scum because...he said he was stepping off a plane." he is scum because he returns with 5 minutes until lynch, proving he was not actually lurking, and was around watching. instead of defending himself and putting himself on the record (as a town would do). he took the easy path and it is a VERY red move. he just happened to be a giant troll even to the end. -shrug- "annul did not think Shady was scum, until he returned to thread, at which point he's scum unless he can take a picture and post it to thread in under 4 minutes." yes. "annul never mentions why," it should be clear. he's obviously lurking the entire game. it is AN EXTREME COINCIDENCE that his plane lands juuuuuust at the deadline for voting.... it doesn't pass a smell test. if he could actually prove hes at the airport, then sure, i go back to defending him because this was the ONE act that looked the most red. if he can show he's honest about it, then yeah, he's not red to me anymore. "despite defending Shady eariler (i.e. finding him town), and finding him town minutes before Shady's return, the mere fact that Shady is back with an excuse for his absence now makes him mafia" yeeeeeeep. "annul defended Shady's PLAY." NO. HUGE misrepresentation. i NEVER did this. quote me one line where i defend his substantive play. | ||
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On October 03 2012 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote: WTF is this shit? Do you think marv is scum or not? Because this looks like fanning flames to me. Clearly you're trying to reinforce this idea that marv was leading a distraction-wagon by positing a motivation for doing so as scum while he's defending himself - however you don't give an opinions one way or the other. In fact, given the information we have right now (Shady's flip) I'd say it's more likely that Node is scum and your premise is based on the idea that Node is town. AGAIN. So. Annul. Tell me. What is Node's alignment? What do you THINK is marv's alignment? you have asked me for my thoughts on things like 6 times now, after going hardcore on me early day 1 and then as soon as night falls, pushing me hard again inexplicably. the move off shady onto node COULD be a red team trying to take out two birds with one stone. tell me, do you argue it did not look like shady was going to be modkilled? is this your actual argument? if not, how the fuck do you not agree with my conclusion? | ||
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he might be! but accusations aren't flying yet JUST because i say "if he WAS a red... that would make sense, because X." | ||
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(prior to the last 5 minutes of the day), assume my arguments about "i didn't actually defend shady" are terrible (they're not) and you, as a town reading this, honestly believe i did defend shady... SHADY WAS A GREEN! holy fuck, imagine that: i did my job as a town player in trying to stop a mislynch! this is a bad thing apparently to austinmcc | ||
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i will not respond to anything else against me until day 2. i am not going to give the red team more information about whether i can successfully defend against an attack. bad misplay that i gave them this much at nighttime =( | ||
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On October 03 2012 01:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Annul explain this too. BEFORE night ends. lol no i knew it | ||
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On October 03 2012 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Someone shoot him. We can lynch Node easier than Annul, and I want them both dead. Medics, on me and marv. DTs, on BC and Mattchew. We totally got this. rofl at one of the reddest looking players trying to coordinate blues | ||
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On October 03 2012 02:06 austinmcc wrote: if node flips red then annul looks awful, no. nice try at setting this up, though. if anything, it makes you look infinitely worse. | ||
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On October 03 2012 02:30 austinmcc wrote: annul is 100% correct that he never defends Shady. LOLOL grats on conceding to me a point that negates almost your entire case | ||
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On October 03 2012 02:33 austinmcc wrote: Oh...hey. Super relevant. DrH's post on the other queue site:I don't think we're meant to know what all the roles mean/do. Also confirms 1 third party with abnormal win condition. link to this pls | ||
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0-100% how sure are each of you that i am a red? | ||
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