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please no unnecessary bullshit it's perfectly possible to play the game without that and it only serves to make the game harder to read there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is, can anybody explain to me who mkfuba07 is? | ||
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On September 18 2012 06:07 Mementoss wrote: I think day one should be discussing what da bands name is gunna be name my band ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8f6HH.png) | ||
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A useless fact accompanied by an unrelated quote. I hope you're going to try to be more easy to understand from now on so chumps like me can follow your thought process too. | ||
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So I am lying or what? I mean, I am not lying unless you think I am perfectly aware who mkfuba07 is yet claims not to be, is that the case? Maybe you can actually explain to me who he is instead of coming up with a silly list that's readily available to me as well if I just go into his profile. I can do that on my own thank you very much. | ||
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On September 18 2012 06:32 iamperfection wrote: I randomly suggest a lynch of Marvelosity. Your guys thoughts? I think that's a pretty shabby idea. Why do you want to lynch randomly and how did you decide randomly upon marvellosity? | ||
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On September 18 2012 06:46 marvellosity wrote: P.S the whole point is that iamp's suggestion wasn't random, so we already have a liar. LAL? And how exactly do you know whether it was random or not? | ||
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On September 18 2012 08:37 Blazinghand wrote: Also, you literally stopped posting when I posted the case on you, so there's that. Yea I had just queue a game of DotA2 when you posted it and then I decided that I would rather see how it other people reacted before shooting it down. I don't really get the first argument. You are saying that my first posts are similar in my scum games, this doesn't make me scum. Then you argue that the first posts themselves have a distinct scummy agenda which is very disputable but more importantly, do you really think that any scum feel the need to push any agenda in their first post? I think that my first post is townie, I think that for all of those scum games you posted. At least the content is townie. Not everything scum posts is scummy. As for the "He's not quick to vote", no that's right, I didn't vote yet during the first 30 minutes of the game. I think it's a very thin argument that I should be scum because of that. I think I like to play both styles styles of "aggressive" and "careful and prodding" as town, I guess it all depends on what mood I am in. Anyway, I think your case on me looks townie and with everything else you've posted I'm pretty confident that you're town. austinmcc, I thought this guy looked really scummy up until this post. It's especially his explanation of that single word "OBVIOUS" that seems very townie to me. It looks like he really thought carefully about my alignment and didn't consider covering his own ass or anything like that. I like that. Townie for now. Mementoss is a little harder. I think he just voted me because I posted a dumb picture and corrected his grammar. That can be really antagonizing I hate when people do that to me when I make a dumb little mistake. Overall I've got a townie feeling about him. marvellosity is pretty shabby for now. Show me some of that "thinky" that you promised before the game. We also need everybody else to join the game and post some more. | ||
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You are too kind. | ||
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I think it's a lot more important that you tell us why you're town. You are playing like shit right now. Explain why or stop playing like shit (there is a third option but you won't like that). | ||
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Anyway, HapaHauli is playing active and townie and I have no interest in lynching him today. Ange777 is looking terrible though. @Ange777 Have you been scum at any point and can you direct me to one of those games? List of people who suck: Bluelightz, marvellosity. | ||
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On September 18 2012 20:53 marvellosity wrote: Agreed, I've not done anything yet. Something decent to come when I get a decent chunk of time today. Ange listed her entire history last game in GSL Open. Do your own research you lazy sod, especially when it was given to you just one bloody game ago. Funny how you forget so quickly. funny how you think i read that game | ||
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On September 19 2012 00:22 Palmar wrote: prplhz you useless sack of shit, get in thread. Do you want to kill marv? austin? Hiro? give me something. I don't really know. Contrary to popular beliefs, being the centre of attention for a little while doesn't entail a plentitude of scum reads. I guess I want to kill Ange777 but I don't really know why. The day is young though. I'm curious about your austinmcc read I felt that this post was pretty townie it seems like he's putting some thought into the game about my alignment. What you think? You seem to be pretty sure of him being scum and I was too until that post so I'm wondering what changed my mind but didn't change yours. | ||
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On September 19 2012 01:24 marvellosity wrote: What is this? Determining Palmar's alignment is obviously always going to be a crucial aspect of any game. Why are you trying to shut down discussion on this? Because Palmar looks town, because of goodkarma's actions as well as his own. I don't want someone to tunnel Palmar all day because it's waste of day1 time and scum can easily tunnel him without much repercussion as he's never getting lynched on day1 (well he did just get lynched on day1 in some game but that was dumb). | ||
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On September 19 2012 01:32 marvellosity wrote: why do GK and Palmar look town to you, then? Well, goodkarma looks town because he was putting effort into his posts and because he was pushing the right agendas and because he replaced out (sorry, but town replaces out 10 times more than scum). Palmar is looking interested in this game and that's good enough for me for now. You will agree with me that HiroPro's case is not exactly overly convincing. | ||
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On September 19 2012 01:35 marvellosity wrote: No, it's not convincing, but I found his point about throwing a bunch of new candidates into an already divided town pretty decent. I disagree on GK for the reason I outlined earlier. But he's reading the thread for the first time and giving his reads. It's frankly a bit silly to expect Palmar of all players and complain that he doesn't give a shit about mainstream lynches and he just does whatever. I would not be worried unless he did care about what other people thinks. It's also 20 hours into the day (or something), it's not like he's coming up with all this 20 minutes before deadline when we are having a hard time securing a lynch. | ||
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On September 19 2012 01:54 marvellosity wrote: don't care Well I care. If you're town I'd like you to survive so please stop acting like a total moron for no apparent reason. I have never seen you flip out like this and for no good reason really. | ||
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On September 19 2012 02:00 marvellosity wrote: especially as i specifically made the point pre-game I was going to try to post less :/ But he never mentioned anything about your activity did he? He just said that it was hard to believe that you really bought that "throwing candidates around" argument and I have to agree. Bleh I don't want to lynch you on day1 but it's looking bad for you right now. | ||
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prplhz Blazinghand Palmar iamperfection Hapahauli Mementoss Gonna go read more filters. | ||
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On September 19 2012 05:38 Zephirdd wrote: Huh. Missed page 15. K got an idea. Palmar, blazinghand, hapahauli. Your opinions on prplhz? Ange777, your opinion on marv? Marv and prplhz, your opinion on mmtoss and austin? These are important to make some sense here. You can ask stuff to me too. I think that Mementoss is town. I skimmed a few of his previous games (they're all conveniently in his profile and that's pretty nifty I gotta say) and I think his play looks a lot more like his town play than his scum play. Would not lynch. I thought austinmcc looked scummy but I think that his explanation for the "TOO OBVIOUS" thing looked pretty townie and I liked it a lot so I'm null/town on him. On September 19 2012 05:58 Zephirdd wrote: How about the whole "hey can anyone tell me what X is like? hey can you do what I should have been doing?" or the whole lurkish style of his play? ugh I'm about to back into prplhz again =_=' I want to see him answering stuff first tho I'm not a big spammer. Asking what people generally think of someone is just something to talk about. It was very literally 3 posts into the game and the two posts before that were not exactly something I could get any content out of. I don't think I'm sheeping Palmar on marvellosity (and I don't think that really matters anyway but some people seem to make a big deal out of it). The reason I am voting marvellosity is that while he said he'd post less and be more thinky this doesn't excuse him from contributing and probably in a comparable way to how he usually plays. He wants to refine his play and maybe cut out some of the "fk u" posts that's great but people don't change their play to be more scummy because that's just dumb. I don't think his decreased activity has been offset by the increased thinkitivity and that unsettles me. The thing that pushed me over the edge with marvellosity was what I mentioned here (and you'll notice that this was before Palmar commented on it). I don't think that town marvellosity would find HiroPro's argument convincing at all. This befuddled me a bit because I'm a slow thinker and admittedly, seeing that a towny looking Palmar saw the same thing as me made me feel more strongly about it. Actually so strongly about it that I voted marvellosity. I don't think that marvellosity has started looking better since then, actually he is looking pretty bad. The straight up OMGUS is something I imagine a scum marvellosity to be capable of so I have to consider, is it a townie move or not? No it's not, the straight up OMGUS was a stupid move. I have no idea why marvellosity is so upset but I think it's because he has been figured out. I dont' see any townie motivation for it at all and how he's tried to explain it so far (Palmar should know better) doesn't convince me. Actually, if marvellosity really thinks that Palmar should know better then why doesn't he think that Palmar is scum and vote him? Instead he's going for an arguably easier day1 target in me. I have some small reservations with the marvellosity lynch that I can tell you about later but for now he's my top candidate. | ||
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On September 19 2012 07:16 mkfuba07 wrote: I'm back from classes. Never really sure where to hop in when I've been gone for so long. Guess I'll just start by saying that I'd much prefer that we not lynch me today. Such a lynch would be a mistake. Anyway, @prplhz - current feelings on Ange777? Is she still on your list or has she been completely replaced by marv? Why do you want to know that? I mentioned Ange777 very briefly and right now a lot of shit with marvellosity is going down and then you ask a relatively irrelevant question. What makes you want to know about my opinion on Ange777 so much that you ignore everything else in the thread? | ||
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On September 19 2012 08:21 mkfuba07 wrote: Do you want me to just say that I think prplhz is scum? I think prplhz is scum. And why exactly do you think that I am scum? | ||
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On September 19 2012 13:39 Zephirdd wrote: Well, no reason not to i guess. I am just waiting for prplhz's response on the marv thing. Lets see what happens on the next hours, but you can count on me for the lynch if necessary and nothing changes my mind. Sorry, but I don't really know what the "marv thing" is. I've explained my vote on him and I read your text walls but I don't really know what you're talking about. That said, I've convinced myself that you're town so that's one more for the list. | ||
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I am quite town, look at my recent games: I have been scum in my last 4 minis and it's pretty clear that I have a really hard time conjuring up any sort of interest in scum games. You can also see that it pretty much got worse over time. I have shown more interest in this game than I did in any of those games. Seriously if you guys don't WIFOM yourself into a corner I'm pretty clearly town and even more clearly a horrible lynch. But fuck that, I'm not getting lynched. Gonna go through the [censored] cases in what I predict will be a futile attempt at setting you straight. First Ange777's case. Jesus christ, the horror. On September 19 2012 20:28 Ange777 wrote: I'm already hating it. Why is Ange777 quoting my very first post, some would even argue the very first post of the game and then calling it fluff? That's grasping for any little fucking thing you can find and it makes you look desperate. This doesn't have a lot to do with your case, it's a bad argument but meh, I just don't understand why people write big dumb text wall PBPA and then include every little dumb thing. Do you seriously think that this post is clearly more scummy than townie? No you don't because allegedly you have brain so use it.prplhz I still want to lynch prplhz. Despite his recent contributions (giving us his town reads and making a case on marv), I am convinced that he is scum. Yes, he has 2 pages of filter within 1 day cycle which is unlike his scum play in GSL Open. But let's have a closer look at the posts he has made in these 2 pages: Starting post fluff. Complains about people who try to give him information about mkfuba07. Sometimes we get to catch a glimpse of his "scum-hunting" or "prodding": After being called out by several players for his lack of contribution he defends himself: The defense in itself is perfectly fine but what lacks is again an effort in scum-hunting. This is the first time that prplhz comments on other players and gives us a read. While town reads are definitely useful in the process of elimination, a clear scum read is far more preferable and accurate. And yes, being the center of attention does not naturally leave you with tons of scum reads but there must be players which have acted suspiciously. Being up for a lynch yourself will always be an easier situation to judge the people making the cases on you as you know your alignment. Judging players accusing other players has 2 unknown quantities and therefore getting a good scum read out of it should be more difficult. As for how being the center of attention makes it more easy to scum hunt, that might actually be your opinion but I'm spending waaaaaaaaay too much time responding to shit like this instead of scum hunting. I also don't think that knowing your own alignment and how people react to it is necessarily something that makes it easier to scum hunt because you have to evaluate whether or not what you say is townie if you are being attacked, and the same thing when other people are being attacked you need to evaluate whether or not what they say is townie. Just look at this massive text wall took me ages to write and I'm not even done because there are at least two other people who have voted me for bad reasons since then. Nice excuse for not reading the thread. Why wouldn't someone read the thread closely? Bullshit is not always just bullshit, it can have town motivation or scum motivation. Is it because you are scum and already know the alignments? prplhz is scum and because of that he is lazy. prplhz sees a post and decides that he does not want to read this single post out of the entire game. prplhz decides that the best thing to do is to write a post in the thread about how he's not reading this post. If you don't see how ridiculous this is then I don't know what the fuck. It's wrong on so many levels I don't know where to start holy fuck I gotta move on because I am getting so mad. Okay I calmed down a bit. It's wrong because lazy doesn't mean scum by default and she doesn't argue that it has to mean scum here. Whatever. It's wrong because she's claiming that my lazyness has brought me to not reading this single post, which constitutes I'd say about 0.1% of the thread but whatever. I'd say that lazyness would probably more result in someone skimming the thread and not just skipping stuff. Alright. It is wrong because no scum would think it a good idea to announce in the thread that they're not reading it, when they can just....... not announce it in the thread lol and then read it if they have to or claim that they forgot or whatever the fuck. The scum motivation for this post is infinitesimal compared to how much flak you can instantly catch for admitting not reading the thread. Whatever you guys are dumb if you didn't already realize this. This argument is so irrationally that I don't know what. Anyway, I did read his post I just think that the Kenpachi Rule Extended is bullshit so I was discouraging further use of it. I didn't want Zephirdd to hide behind a dumb rule that I think is a null tell for the entire game (or even for a day).So what? You are grasping for straws and it's looking ridiculous to be honest. If you need to make a case then drop the irrelevant parts or at least put them in a spoiler and mark it "TOTALLY IRRELEVANT". Two posts are useless jokey posts? So what? Now let's get to the part where he actually decides to contribute by making cases: So here we have his explanation on why he wants to lynch marv. Basically I see 3 points: 1) Marv promised more thinky posts while posting less in general. But while he definitely has been a more lurky marv than usual he has not fulfilled his promise for thinky posts. While I have to agree that we have not seen much of the new thinky-style marv, it's not like he wasn't to be seen at all. This is a well written and unlike the usual one-liner marv post with a lot of thinking. Yes, there haven't been other posts like this one following it up but soon afterwards was the Palmar/Marv war, it's only reasonable to assume that during a heated discussion you won't write text-wall posts. I am still hoping for the thinky-marv to pop up again now that he seems to have calmed down again but for now, I can't take this argument as a scum indicator. If this continues to go on after day 1 I will reconsider this point again but not now. To comment on this text wall of his, no I don't consider any of what he said "thinky". Sorry if you're town but I just don't,, you are complaining about the Kenpachi Extended Rule which is just common sense to complain about because it's bullshit, the case on HiroPro isn't exactly convincing or insightful or anything. prplhz' other arguments for scum marv: 2) Town marv would never be convinced by HiroPro's argument. + Show Spoiler + On September 19 2012 01:11 HiroPro wrote: Look at goodkarma's posts and what I've already said about him. Look at the voting in the thread. We have like 6 or 7 candidates each with one vote. That's a recipe for town disaster. And then look at what Palmar comes in and does - he throws three completely new candidates into the mix and doesn't give any real reason for them being scum. He's not trying to actually lead town onto a successful lynch, he's just trying to cause chaos. Why not? I don't like Palmar's style of just giving away all his reads without any single explanation other than to take his word for it. (But apparentely no one else is annoyed by this fact besides me.) I am perfectly fine with discussing new lynch targets but I need to know why someone proposes them to be lynched. 3) The OMGUS vote was due to scum marv being caught. I really dislike OMGUS votes. Because they can be basically everything from town motivated to scum motivated or just plain stupid. And the other problem is you usually can't prove it, the OMGUS voter can simply hide behind the OMGUS motivation. Yes, the OMGUS vote makes marv scummy but it is not enough to convince me into lynching him. This following part makes me really wonder why people are not suspicious of prplhz: So when is it "later"? How do you want to convince us into lynching your allegedly top scum read when you yourself have reservations you are not willing to share with us? prplhz' two pages filter contains a lot of fluff and useless stuff. He has not made much effort in scum-hunting, just some occasionally prodding. He gives himself excuses for not reading the thread closely. His case on marv is really weak. And he is already back-paddling from said case. Scum. I will probably check Palmar's filter once more later, furthermore I want to know where the lurkers like austin, Bluelightz, mkfuba07 and HiroPro have gone. Stop lurking and get in the game. Closing down, I think I have a hard time reading Ange777 because of the massive biased text walls I have to go through. I am leaning scum but I don't want to push something on someone that I am actively a bit upset with. The biggest thing is that I don't see any thought process in this, it's all a big biased mess and I see no reason for that. If you are town Ange777 then please take a god damn step back and look at things more clearly because you are tunneling. And then write more concise cases because text walls like these (and you are directly responsible for this one) is full of nothing and it just drains people of the time they have for playing this game without actually showing anything. | ||
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On September 20 2012 01:48 Bluelightz wrote: Case: Hey d00ds clearly list's are not bad! Correct? No! unexplained lists! (Unexplained list's are just random bullshit prplhz is throwing into the thread which is not benefiting anyone.) Something ticks me off with the amount of unexplained stuff in prplhz's post's, say his defense post: Bold Paragraph: 1.Dodges argument (Hey I don't know X Imma just completely avoid it!) 2.Says it doesn't make him scum (Hey someone notice he didn't explain WHY doesn't it make him scum?) 3. + Show Spoiler + "Then you argue that the first posts themselves have a distinct scummy agenda which is very disputable but more importantly, do you really think that any scum feel the need to push any agenda in their first post? I think that my first post is townie, I think that for all of those scum games you posted. At least the content is townie. Not everything scum posts is scummy." Then at the end of his post he adds random reads on people, to make the defence post bigger perhaps? After that, he voiced his suspicions on Ange777, he say's he want's to lynch her (or him o_o?) Also, on that post the bold part clearly is thoroughly explained points which will make us believe he is town right???? Nope, "Town reads are useless' is dumb" <---- WHY IS IT DUMB PRPLHZ I DON'T UNDERSTAND....... Lastly, I find a problem between me and why he's voting marv "Hapa your so gud! I will totally sheep you with no reason to add at all then the affirmation of my vote on marv :D" (Sheeping with no reason = Bad because we don't know why the fuck does prplhz believe marv is town, for example if he thought marv was scum through the thing Hapa pointed out why didn't he explain why he thought that thing Hapa pointed out scummy?) Basically that's why and I'll be happy to answer any questions/ give opinions on anyone. I exhausted my patience with dumb cases for now so you'll have to content with this rather sardonic retort. Get the fuck out. | ||
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On September 20 2012 03:11 marvellosity wrote: So, prplhz, what are these potential reservations you had with my lynch? No one else is on it but Palmar and I. | ||
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On September 20 2012 03:09 iamperfection wrote: What should he have said nothing at all? stfu. this is ace like play and i'm not even kidding this is so simple and no one else wants to see it and iamperfection just sticks it to you "he is defending himself, he must be scum" | ||
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don't know if he's scum but i guess we'll see ##Vote austinmcc | ||
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also can you tell me why you made a bullshit biased case on me instead of actually saying why the fuck you think i'm scum. the whole thing reeks of "he's scum so i'm just going to read his filter and find random shit and spin it scum", why didn't you just do that with someone else but me? it's just too irrational and i fucking hate it because i can't read this kind of tunneling. like, blazing is legit, but i have no idea about you. if you say i'm scum because i'm ignoring your "share your scum reads hurr" then i'm going to ignore you for the rest of the game. | ||
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On September 20 2012 05:22 Ange777 wrote: EBWODP: Oh and I am still waiting for an answer to this, I don't think I have seen a reply to it yet: replied to it earlier when marv asked me, i don't like how nobody else is voting marv but it's a minor thing and i'm pretty much at peace with that. he's still best lynch etc. maybe i should mindlessly call you scum for not reading the thread. i mean at least i have proof of you not reading while you only have my word for it that i didn't read the thread and you can't scum now can you? maybe i should not just read scum into every single one of your posts because it's silly to think that scum are scummy in every post they make. yea i like the latter option better. | ||
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On September 20 2012 05:31 marvellosity wrote: Do you have nothing to say about my play since you committed to your vote on me, prplhz? no and it doesn't matter right now so i don't care about it | ||
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On September 20 2012 05:37 marvellosity wrote: yeah, i know right. IT DOES MATTER BECAUSE YOU ARE ONE OF THE MAIN CANDIDATES but i'm not getting lynched lol austinmcc is if anybody (and i'm sort of content with that, he's not a scum read but he's not a solid town read so whatever) so it doesn't matter right now | ||
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brb 17 mins | ||
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town: iamperfection blazing zephirdd hapa mementoss palmar townie/null: austinmcc mkfuba07 bluelightz scummy: ange777 hiropro scum: marv remember to lynch palmar at lylo | ||
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On September 20 2012 05:49 Ange777 wrote: @prplhz: What do you want to know? Why I think you are scum? Because I don't see any effort in scum hunting from you. Yeah, you'll mention your case on marv but look how much consent it got in the thread. There are only two people voting for marv: Palmar and you. If your case was that good people would have reconsidered their vote. But instead they aren't because that case is weak. I stated it from the very start that I am suspicious of you for the lack of scum hunting. + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 17:26 Ange777 wrote: Ok, after reading the thread there are a few matters which strike me. prplhz Actually I am not that sold on the effort in scum hunting he has done. I was equally suspicious of his first post as the last game I played with him had the exact same kind of starting post. After having defended himself against Blazinghand's case he proceeded to give us 3 town reads and stated that he is suspicious of marv due to the lack of posts. The case generated so much discussion that I find it unlikely that all he gained from it was town reads. Where are your scum reads? My bad, I must have missed it. I apologize. didn't read lol because i'm dead so i'm just gonna enjoy trolling for 10 mins blazing worst player in this game but i'm probably just mad ange777 needs to stop tunneling for no reason hiropro had some good reasons to be against my lynch but i think it's weird he wasn't more vocal about it but maybe he was and i didn't catch it | ||
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i'm the vigilante i can shoot someone tonight | ||
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my vigilante claim was a troll jesus christ | ||
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but fuck it you're so dumb i don't know what to do so am i but whatever | ||
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On September 20 2012 06:06 Blazinghand wrote: You know what, I take it back. Fuck prplhz and his shitty play and your guys shitty claims. I am sorry he was lynched, but I'm not sorry for how it happened. This was completely avoidable, Hapa, prplhz. I don't know what else to say. shitting on dead people classic blazinghand | ||
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