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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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Since you're falling off Palmar a bit, any other compelling cases out there for you? Anyone you think worthy of a vote? | ||
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marvellosity
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I understand why you're voting for Bluelightz, but I'm finding it really hard to feel enthusiastic about wanting to lynch him, but I'll look at him again and see what I can glean. I'm going to have a hard look at austin again. I know it looks like he suddenly started contributing tonnes, but I know he'd be capable of doing that out of necessity if he needed to. His extremely long absence still doesn't sit well with me, despite what came after. And his comments like "if I were scum, I'd be caught for doing weird setup shit (paraphrasing), not what I'm doing now!" Honestly I'm finding it superhard to envisage THREE scum right now (or 2/1, whatever). | ||
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Hapahauli
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Town: Marv (Some long townie posts + too much :effort: for me to think he's scum) Mementoss (confirmed vigi) iamperfection (leaning town - too upfront about his own play, has this "doesn't give a fuck" attitude towards suspicion against him. Laughably "matter of fact" towards his own play.) Null-ish: Zeph (mega confirmation bais vs. me makes me lean town. A couple of posts in his filter I have to consider) Ange (:effort: making me lean town on her) Palmar (nullzzz/townie- solid read on mmtoss, though some scummy things in his filter) Hiro (nullz) austinmcc (nullzzzzz) scum: Bluelightz 'suppose I need to explain iamperfection a bit. There are just some things in his filter that scream town to me. i.e: On September 20 2012 03:45 iamperfection wrote: I will follow the two guys I think are town. ## unvote ## vote austinmcc On September 20 2012 05:23 iamperfection wrote: I did you didn't like the explanation. And I'm starting to not like my explanation It's just so hillariously matter-of-fact. Also, his reaction to me and prplzh fucking up the mason claim looks really townie to me. | ||
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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iamperfection
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On September 21 2012 07:31 marvellosity wrote: yeah I hope to god iamp is town, and basically agree with your read on him. He's not really very useful at all but I kinda enjoy his posts anyway. thanks? | ||
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marvellosity
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Hapahauli
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On September 21 2012 07:33 marvellosity wrote: Hapa, just because it came to mind - what do you make of Ange quizzing iamperfection about his vote around the time of the lynch / dumb claims? It's pretty strange, given that ange herself was active in the thread during the whole mason-claim fiasco. However, there's just too much overall effort in her posting for me to give her a scumread, despite her relentless tunneling of prplzh. She was never afraid to comment in detail on other cases (Palmar's case on marv), and as far as I'm concerned, was the only player in the thread to have decent rationale for voting him. | ||
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marvellosity
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On September 21 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote: It's pretty strange, given that ange herself was active in the thread during the whole mason-claim fiasco. However, there's just too much overall effort in her posting for me to give her a scumread, despite her relentless tunneling of prplzh. She was never afraid to comment in detail on other cases (Palmar's case on marv), and as far as I'm concerned, was the only player in the thread to have decent rationale for voting him. Ok. Agree on your bold point quite a bit actually. Normally if scum decide to tunnel someone to look like they're contributing, that's all they do. | ||
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Hapahauli
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They're pretty null to me and I can't get a read either way. What say you? | ||
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marvellosity
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leaning townish/null/scummish. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On September 21 2012 08:04 marvellosity wrote: Ok. Agree on your bold point quite a bit actually. Normally if scum decide to tunnel someone to look like they're contributing, that's all they do. Wanted to comment on this, because this is exactly what Bluelightz has been doing. The more I read through his meta, the more differences in mentality I see between this game and his townie games. Townie bluelightz likes looking for... for lack of better words... "townie idiosyncrasies." He finds little things that makes people townie/null/not-scum/whatever and it really influences his voting process. This gives other people the impression that he's a crazy/wild player due to his mentality. But when you look at this game, he's built two big cases against players. He's never declared a townie read, and he's been fairly tunnel-y. Look how clean his play is. Does that look like the wild townie Bluelightz "capable of doing anything" that you know? | ||
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austinmcc
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On September 21 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote: It's pretty strange, given that ange herself was active in the thread during the whole mason-claim fiasco. However, there's just too much overall effort in her posting for me to give her a scumread, despite her relentless tunneling of prplzh. She was never afraid to comment in detail on other cases (Palmar's case on marv), and as far as I'm concerned, was the only player in the thread to have decent rationale for voting him. Go look at how she was active during that time. It's one of the few things that gives me pause. She was very active in the hours leading up to the lynch. Hapa and prplhz claimed at 5:54 - + Show Spoiler + On September 20 2012 05:54 Hapahauli wrote: Fuck this I'm claiming. Prplhz is my mason buddy That much should be obvious for how much I've been defending him all game. On September 20 2012 05:54 prplhz wrote: fuck it guys i'm the vigilante i can shoot someone tonight Ange's filter from that point on is: On September 20 2012 05:55 Ange777 wrote: I'm speechless. Nice claims ... On September 20 2012 05:57 Ange777 wrote: So you are confirming Hapa's mason claim? On September 20 2012 05:58 Ange777 wrote: Why are you ninja voting iamperfection??? On September 20 2012 06:03 Ange777 wrote: Where is the flip? I wanna get the celebration starting On September 20 2012 06:03 Ange777 wrote: Seriously? On September 20 2012 06:04 Ange777 wrote: Claiming mason is so easy and you really waited till the last few minutes to do it? Again, I had the same exact feeling that ange was active around deadline, but the timing didn't match up. She had a lot of activity in the hour or two before the lynch, but she did NOTHING with the claims. She seemed more worried about iamperfection's vote that the claims themselves, as that's her only comment between asking if prplz could confirm hapa's mason claim and then commenting that she was waiting for the flip 3 minutes after deadline. | ||
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marvellosity
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[QUOTE]On September 21 2012 08:04 marvellosity wrote: [QUOTE]On September 21 2012 07:43 Hapahauli wrote: [QUOTE]On September 21 2012 07:33 marvellosity wrote: Hapa, just because it came to mind - what do you make of Ange quizzing iamperfection about his vote around the time of the lynch / dumb claims?[/QUOTE] It's pretty strange, given that ange herself was active in the thread during the whole mason-claim fiasco. However, there's just too much overall effort in her posting for me to give her a scumread, despite her relentless tunneling of prplzh. She was never afraid to comment in detail on other cases (Palmar's case on marv), and as far as I'm concerned, was the only player in the thread to have decent rationale for voting him. [/QUOTE] Ok. Agree on your bold point quite a bit actually. Normally if scum decide to tunnel someone to look like they're contributing, that's all they do. [/QUOTE] Wanted to comment on this, because this is exactly what Bluelightz has been doing. The more I read through his meta, the more differences in mentality I see between this game and his townie games. Townie bluelightz likes looking for... for lack of better words... "townie idiosyncrasies." He finds little things that makes people townie/null/not-scum/whatever and it really influences his voting process. This gives other people the impression that he's a crazy/wild player due to his mentality. But when you look at this game, he's built two big cases against players. He's never declared a townie read, and he's been fairly tunnel-y. Look how clean his play is. Does that look like the wild townie Bluelightz "capable of doing anything" that you know?[/QUOTE As you keep banging on about him, I decided to go back for myself at Normal Mini Mafia II. And the large problem I came across is that he was quite the opposite there. In fact I was somewhat shocked to see how involved he 'seemed'. If you want me to dig up examples I will, but I think his 'tunnelyness' here is more akin to, say GSL where he basically stuck on vader for two days, than NMM2, where he was on drwiggles, VE, Sinensis, and with other interactions besides. What say you? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
... Again, I had the same exact feeling that ange was active around deadline, but the timing didn't match up. She had a lot of activity in the hour or two before the lynch, but she did NOTHING with the claims. She seemed more worried about iamperfection's vote that the claims themselves, as that's her only comment between asking if prplz could confirm hapa's mason claim and then commenting that she was waiting for the flip 3 minutes after deadline. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the bolded. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:44 Hapahauli wrote: Austin, can you clarify something for me? I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the bolded. 5 minutes to deadline - nice claims 3 minutes to deadline - "are you confirming mason?" That's it. She seems to disbelieve the claims, but then asks "are you confirming mason?" However, she doesn't care about the answer. 3 minutes after deadline she's just waiting for flip. It really reminds me of something I semi-caught from Mattchew in Can't Believe. He asked for reads on marv, 2 people gave townreads on marv, then Mattchew votes marv. It made it look like he was just asking the question, but didn't care about responses. Ange asks if prplhz is confirming the mason claim, but doesn't do anything after. Doesn't push him hard for an answer. Doesn't even say if she believes the claim or not, which a lot of people were doing. She just throws that question out there 3 minutes before deadline, and is back 3 minutes after deadline to say "Where's the flip?" I don't feel that her silence after that question is townie. She should at least be concerned about the answer if she's going to ask. But she doesn't seem to have been concerned, and she didn't say anything about whether or not she believed the mason claim, found them town/scum, etc. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
The claims came in. She said nice claims, asked prplhz to confirm mason, and then dipped out for 6 minutes. I find it scummy. | ||
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