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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 20 2012 20:38 GMT
#861
lol ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 20 2012 20:38 GMT
#862
he didn't 'explain' anything else on his main scumread - me - doesn't reference any further thoughts on how I've played

he didn't 'explain' anything on his 2nd highest scumread, HiroPro.

And he barely explained why he abandoned the lynch and didn't vote austin. Hapa has alraedy covered that one. It's a pile of crap.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 20 2012 20:39 GMT
#863
basically he tried to explain the little things, but all the major stuff got left untouched or badly explained. Not sure how you don't see this.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 20 2012 20:43 GMT
#864
On September 21 2012 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
basically he tried to explain the little things, but all the major stuff got left untouched or badly explained. Not sure how you don't see this.


Maybe its cause so many people are trying to show how every sentence he ever said in this game is scummy. And with you I'm not going to be able to trust your read on Palmar cause you've been looking at him very scum biased since the game started. You got the blinders on and only can see scum motivation from everything he says, look at it from both sides, and not insta post insult posts immediately after. I can see where he is coming from with that post. It also makes sense for town Palmar to not play to full Palmar potential on Day 1 cause he wants to avoid getting shot and make better reads when he has a lot more information on day 2.

The only legit point you have is him not explaining his scum reads right now.

I definitely expect him to really up his game scumhunting in day 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 20 2012 20:50 GMT
#865
no blinders at all. In fact I've basically done everything I can to strip away interactions he's had with *me* and concentrated mostly on interactions he's had elsewhere. For example:

1) posting largely unexplained lists, as he does as scum
2) calling one of the main wagons town, but never ever explaining why he's town and letting him get lynched
3) afking for the lynch, again doing nothing to save his town read
4) not voting for his other scumread on contradictory reasons as *someone else* pointed out.
5) calling Hiro scum without ever giving any reasons

This is nothing to do with any blinkers I have, dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 20 2012 20:51 GMT
#866
Mementoss, on a completely unrelated note.

What do you think of iamperfection?
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 20 2012 20:52 GMT
#867
On September 21 2012 05:51 Zephirdd wrote:
Mementoss, on a completely unrelated note.

What do you think of iamperfection?


null leaning town, I haven't re-read his filter recently but I've felt this way since his first post.
But I do think hes anti-town/useless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 20 2012 20:53 GMT
#868
On September 21 2012 05:52 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 05:51 Zephirdd wrote:
Mementoss, on a completely unrelated note.

What do you think of iamperfection?


null leaning town, I haven't re-read his filter recently but I've felt this way since his first post.
But I do think hes anti-town/useless


wadda you think bro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 20 2012 20:57 GMT
#869
On September 21 2012 05:52 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 05:51 Zephirdd wrote:
Mementoss, on a completely unrelated note.

What do you think of iamperfection?


null leaning town, I haven't re-read his filter recently but I've felt this way since his first post.
But I do think hes anti-town/useless


so he is null, leans town and is anti-town? Jesus christ when someone asks you a question at least open his filter and form a proper opinion -_-'

While you're at it, can you link me where you give your opinion on mkfuba(or just tell me)?
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
September 20 2012 20:57 GMT
#870
and with that I'm out. Write down any questions and I'll read them when I'm back in about ~4:30 hours.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 20 2012 20:58 GMT
#871
On September 21 2012 05:57 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 05:52 Mementoss wrote:
On September 21 2012 05:51 Zephirdd wrote:
Mementoss, on a completely unrelated note.

What do you think of iamperfection?


null leaning town, I haven't re-read his filter recently but I've felt this way since his first post.
But I do think hes anti-town/useless


so he is null, leans town and is anti-town? Jesus christ when someone asks you a question at least open his filter and form a proper opinion -_-'

While you're at it, can you link me where you give your opinion on mkfuba(or just tell me)?


anti-town has nothing to do with alignment, and null on the townier side.

What do you think of Perfection?

I will go through his filter and everyone elses better day 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 20 2012 20:59 GMT
#872
I remember iamperfection being quite cautious as scum in his newbie game. I was scum coach that game and he sought affirmation a lot for what he was going to post.

He's not a newbie anymore but his brashness seems to be the polar opposite of that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
September 20 2012 20:59 GMT
#873
Bluelightz isn't scummy, he's Bluelightz. If you attack him, be prepared for non-responsiveness and random shitty defense posts at the last minute, whether he's town or scum.

Iamperfection is active and aggressive enough that I no longer consider him a top scumread. I've seen him play poorly before as town so this is reasonable to say.

My current list of people I'll be pressuring going into D1 if I'm alive (which I probably will be, unless something weird happens):

HiroPro
Mkfuba07
Ange777
Palmar

The first two because they're scum, the second two because they should be good scumhunters, better than they are this game

Also marv like ange and plam

peace
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 20 2012 20:59 GMT
#874
Ugh. Rushing to get this out.

I don't want to lynch marv or palmar tomorrow at the moment. Just mild townreads on each. Any suspicions are pretty weak, and it's stuff like:

palmar isn't giving much reasoning behind his reads currently. But if you look at the FIRST reads he gave on his initial readthrough of the thread, there was some more reasoning, pointing out posts, and definitive explanations that X's response to this specific question from Y meant that he had a townread on X. Unsure why the manner in which he gives his reads has changed.


marv HIMSELF reads townie to me, but I keep being paranoid and feeling like his interactions with hiro and interactions with ange are odd. There are lots of little back and forths between the two.


hiropro reads town by himself, but again it's odd interactions with marv. marv asking for hiro to go grab certain posts about mementoss/hapa early, hiro does so, felt townie on its own. hiro's suspicions on me felt probably townie to me.


ange, upon reread, did put in a good bit of effort. And there are a lot of posts that I really like, some of the ways in which she explained her townread on me, and some of the posts where she and I were following the same trains of thought (iamperfections vote on me, phoneposted explanation, that whole bit). However, I'd like ange to answer a couple things:
On September 20 2012 04:00 Ange777 wrote:
I agree with austinmcc's case that Mementoss does not follow up his questions. I have to read through his filter once more though to give a final stance on him.

Who was the final his/him in this sentence? If they were about me, you did give an updated read, but could you give an updated read of mementoss? I didn't see you talk much about him.

Also, I think you(Ange) misinterpreted this post: + Show Spoiler +
On September 21 2012 01:07 Ange777 wrote:
Finally people are taking a closer look at Palmar. I don't know about his past achievements of being perhaps a terrific scum hunter but I have not seen anything worthy of being praised like that in this game yet.

Unfortunately I won't be in for the deadline, for now my top scum reads are Palmar and iamperfection.

@iamperfection:

Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 22:57 iamperfection wrote:
also at ange i want to you to explain more on your thought process at the deadline. What was going through your head when the claims came out.


What was going on? I have you marked as a scum read that's what's going on. Why would someone give up his right to vote just to simply sheep another player? Especially sheeping someone you yourself called a terrible townie. There is no town motivatoin for that kind of play. Publicly stating to sheep your town read just gives you an excuse to be wrong with your vote because you were not responsible for it.

And suddenly vote switching in the last minutes onto the seemingly scum prplhz whom you had not mentioned again after dismissing Blazinghand's case as being a weak meta case is just something I don't understand.

Two possibilities:

1) You are town. You want to make sure prplhz gets lynched. But we already had the majority to lynch him. So why the last minute vote? We discussed prplhz a lot before the end of Day 1 and you did not give your stance on him.

2) You are scum. You wanted to get some town cred for jumping on "scum prplhz".

Right now I am leaning to 2 as you still haven't given me a satisfying answer for your voting behaviour.

What was your thought process at deadline. Not about iamperfection, but about prplhz/hapa. You were here, and posted a little bit, but you asked this to prplhz:
On September 20 2012 05:57 Ange777 wrote:
So you are confirming Hapa's mason claim?

and then didn't do anything with his response until
On September 20 2012 06:03 Ange777 wrote:
Where is the flip? I wanna get the celebration starting

after the deadline. Why did you want to know whether prplhz confirmed the mason claim if you weren't going to do anything about it?


Haven't gotten to zephirdd.

Right now, still not unconvinced about mementoss.
Still want bluelightz to answer some questions about his swap, or to just actually be back in thread
Would like answers from ange about those questions to her, a little worried about them
mildly townie on marv, the scummiest parts i see are his interactions with hiro/ange, although nothing is glaringly scummy about any of it.
Fe fi fo fum.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 20 2012 21:00 GMT
#875
Leader of da Band


[image loading]

James Hetfield - One of the greatest frontmen of all time


Sup I'm the leader of da band.

When I initially got this role my strategy was to wait until night 3 to shoot, because that is when I always die and I confirmed the shot would still go through. I wanted to do this because I thought it would increase my odds a lot to hit scum.

Night 1 Odds 1/11 ( 1 Dead 1 Me)

Night 2 Odds 1/8 (4 Dead 1 me)

Night 3 Odds 1/5 (7 dead 1 me)

But this relied on too much assumptions. Not ever lynching scum, not getting role blocked, mafia shots going through ever night etc.

Why I decided to shoot tonight:

Well I felt quiet a bit of pressure throughout a lot of day 1 from probably 4ish players. Throughout the night phase people were still discussing their reads on me and I didn't really like that. Not because I thought I would be lynched day 2, but because I think it wastes a lot of potential time hunting actual scum. Also, I thought my shot could give a solid stance on the person I shot and time wouldn't be wasted on discussing their lynch. Basically to get town on good track to a scum lynch day 2.

How I decided who to shoot and who I shot:

Who I Couldn't shoot:
Marv
Palmar
Hapa
BH

Why? Pretty simple, I don't want my shot to stack and they are pretty popular targets tonight imo.

So that limits it down a little.

Too null to shoot:
Ange
IamPerfection
Zephridd

Too null for me to shoot. In Ange's case I think she can be really useful to the town if shes town, and if shes scum I think we will have enough posts to analyse to take her down. I actually considered shooting Iamperfection, just for the fact that I don't want his random shit around anymore I don't want him around at lylo situation. But I decided against it, despite what people say I still think he wouldn't quiet have the balls to bring that much attention to himself as a noob scum. Zephridd is same case as Ange, I think if hes scum he posts enough that he will fuck up and we can lynch him.

Who I really considered shooting in order of most to least:
MKFuba
HiroPro
BL

MKfuba, though slightly more active than the other 2 has really caught my eye as scummy from his starting post. Throughout his filter he seems scared to post anything and delays on posting. He picks out easy things to post about. He would likely be part of the day 2 discussion at least in my mind.

Hiro, always a hard motherfucker to read imo. I went through his filter and everything seems genuine he's doing his own thing and seems open and honest, glad I read his filter because Im leaning a bit town on him.

Bluelightz, from what I've heard you don't really want him around at lylo and his case on me was bad, and I don't think hes going to be able to convince anyone of scum with cases like that. His meta apparently shows that hes more sure and critical as scum and more unsure as town. He seemed unsure on my case but on the prplhz case he seemed really aggressive and very critical and sure. He also has been lurking the hardest so the shot wouldn't be wasted.

In the end I went with my gut and shot MKFuba. Now at least tomorrow will be productive I will be confirmed and scumkfuba will be out of the game.

If my shot doesn't go through:

I was either
a) roleblocked, which I will be notified of and its fine, other than it makes me look more scummier than ever

or

b) I hit SK. If my shot doesnt go through and I was not notified of being role blocked. The lynch 100% needs to be on Mk to kill off the SK who chose night immunity.

Thats all folks, my first time being vig and it was pressureful. I hope I hit scum, but at the very least, I hope this will help propel day 2 into an ideal scum hunting atmosphere and a fresh start to the game.

TLDR I SHOT MKFUBA

Kicked out of the band

I googled scum mkfuba and this picture came up
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Not sure what it means though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
September 20 2012 21:00 GMT
#876
I'll be pressing iamperfeciton but he's no longer needed to be dead immediately
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
September 20 2012 21:00 GMT
#877
thanks for shooting mkfuba it's the right move
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
September 20 2012 21:02 GMT
#878
End of Night 1




Figure 3: Confession time: I hate Weezer.


I think, in all bands of a certain size, there is a person there who isn't there because they are musically talented. They are there because they're good at something else that the band needs, and the band decides to give them an instrument to play just to give them an excuse to hang around. In da Band, that person was Blazinghand, and his instrument was the tambourine.

Truth be told, no one was going to notice whether or not there was someone playing a tambourine in the band. Fortunately, for Blazinghand, that's not why he was there. He was there for da Ladies. Unfortunately, his parents never understood that. When they found that someone had taken away his tambourine, and they came to take him home. It was time for him to find a real job, or at least, that's what they thought.

Meanwhile, mkfuba07 was checking to see if he got any mail. Da Band got plenty of fan mail, and he was sure that today was his day. He eagerly leafed through all of the postcards and envelopes, and finally found one with his name on it. He excitedly opened it up only to find a letter explaining to him just how bad he is at music and everything else. Disheartened, he slipped out of the back, and set off for home.

blazinghand, one of da Member of da Band, lost his tambourine!

mkfuba07, one of da Member of da Band, just isn't feelin' it!



Day 2 has begun! You have 48 hours to figure out who's in this for the good of da Band, and who isn't.
Deadline is at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).

Again, there are no clues this game. All names are used purely for flavor.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 20 2012 21:03 GMT
#879
poo.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 20 2012 21:03 GMT
#880
unfortunate news to return to.
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