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Just got finished with a Skyrim spree...some thoughts on thrawn -
1) Hopping on the bandwagon
Early in day 1 he votes Sharrant with this post: On September 19 2012 06:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
My own accusations against sharrant, sonic's latest post, and sharrant's confirmation that he wants debears to roleclaim is enough for me to:##Vote Sharrant
Which occurs right after Sonic's long post in which he states why Sharrant is very scummy. Note that he doesn't address Sonic's post at all.
Previous to the post, thrawn was arguing with Sharrant and suspicious of him but hadn't passed judgement one way or another. After Sonic's post, and once Sharrant became the main topic of discussion, thrawn was very open to lynching him: On September 20 2012 04:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
stutters: so your point about cubu is that no matter what he flips he is so anti-town he needs to be lynched? I can see that logic... especially since he hasn't even voted. (same for drazak- no vote yet) However I stand by my lurker policy of lynching the lurker with the largest amount of scummy content which is killing.
I still say that sharrant is scummy enough to override lurker policy
However I didn't think of anything at the time these posts were happening, because Sharrant was making some strange posts at the time, and more importantly the fact that thrawn was first to call out Sharrant.
Next, what I think is a huge slip, his vote on drazak:
Initially he believes that both killer and drazak are scummy lurkers and is willing to vote for either:On September 20 2012 07:16 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 07:10 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Fuuuuck, we don't have a decent counter wagon to Sharrant or Cubu. How many posters are even around right now? How many would consider changing their vote? I'd say killing or drazak
Sharrant votes drazak as a lurker policy lynch. Sonic votes based on the change in his meta and his bandwagon vote on Sharrant. Kush votes and admits to bandwagoning. Thrawn copycats Sonic's reasoning and votes drazak after kush. Drazak's post:On September 20 2012 07:27 drazak wrote:
Ok, I'm home now.
When I decided to vote sherrant I honestly was just bandwagoning, I couldn't find anyone with a good read other than the lurkers.
For the moment, I'd much rather vote cubu, he doesn't have anything to add and if he does flip mason it confirms our other mason. I was on my phone earlier so I had no way to write a longer more descriptive post. I'm going to go through some filters during night and see if I can come up with some suspicions to start D2 with, presuming I make it through the night.
Thrawn's post: On September 20 2012 07:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
I would go with drazak. Previously my lurker lynch back up was killing but drazak made that retarted vote. I've also had earlier supicions of him maily because of his first post, where he goes out of his way to defend accusations against him that haven't even happend yet.
So killing/drazak but I say drazak.
vote count?
Once the focus is on drazak, thrawn changes his opinion and believes drazak is the stronger vote. Now, what really stands out to me is this: drazak literally admitted to bandwagoning. In thrawn's recent post in the previous page, he says this:
+ Show Spoiler +On September 22 2012 13:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
I've been looking at the final vote count. I think it's very very safe to assume that at least 1 mafia voted for drazak. The people who voted for drazak are: Sharrant, Sonic Death Monkey, kushm4sta, thrawn2112, Stutters695. So then I removed sharrant, sonic, and myself, which leaves kush and stutters. Out of those two I think it's more likely stutters is scum. And when I look at their votes, kush made that retarded "ok looks like drazzak is the bandwagon then" vote. Originally it looked suspicious but consider this... why the fuck would a mafia player bandwagon onto a townie lynch and then use such a terrible phrase? Especially to even include the word bandwagon? That imo, is a colossal error that I don't think anyone would be capable of. (well maybe yourharry would find some way to rationalize it) So, that leaves stutters who already looks suspicious, both for lurking, and because of how he stops lurking to pop in the thread once someone calls him out.
So if all the follwoing is true, Stutters has to be scum
1: At least 1 mafia voted for drazak
2: There are no holes we've overlooked in sharrant's mason claim
3: My reasoning about kush's vote is extremely likely to be correct
(4: and an additional one for people other than myself would be that thrawn is town)
For me of course 4 is 100 true. 2 is so close to 100 percent true it may as well be 100 percent. Then I think 3 is the next most likely and 1 is probably the part of the theory I have the most hesitations about. However I think 1 and 3 are solid enough.
So in other words I think stutters is a pretty damn good lynch option. Not only for all the reasons just mentioned but also because he's a huge lurker.
So kush isn't suspicious because mafia would never admit to bandwagon posting, but drazak was? This is a very big contradiction.
After the lynch sonic and debears called me out on my posts, and I get a FOS from sonic. Thrawn jumps in and mirrors the arguments already made against me. His only original argument against me, and one which he repeated in the last page: + Show Spoiler +On September 21 2012 00:53 thrawn2112 wrote:Add this to the contradictory things atreides has said: Show nested quote +On September 20 2012 06:41 Atreides- wrote:2) Sharrant outs a mason, he confirms, and we lynch cubu or killing. At this point it's very unlikely for both Sharrant and his ally to be mafia, and more likely for both to be masons. Relatively strong outcome.
4) Sharrant doesn't reveal the mason and we lynch cubu or killing. This seems like rolling the dice, as we wouldn't have any idea if Sharrant is lying or not, and it's very possible for us to lynch a townie on top of that.
I'm leaning towards 2) as an option right now unless something changes.
I feel that both Killing and Stutters are slightly scummy/lurky but cubu sounds like a strong vote as well. I was hoping for him to post by now. In that post he lists a bunch of scenarios and in 2 of them he advises lynching killing or cubu. He says the best option is option 2 which is if sharrant outs a mason and the mason confirms then we lynch cubu or killing. Sharrant ended up outing cubu as a mason so obviously cubu would no longer be his lynch choice which leaves killing as his preferred option. Of course cubu didn't confirm... but it still looks liek a contradiction because of how much he had talked about lynching killing in that post But then he comes into the thread and said he would have preferred a no lynch and that "There weren't any exceptionally strong arguments against killer / drazak." His lynch reads before the cubu reveal were killing, stutters, and cubu but then later he says he wants a no-lynch because there weren't any good lynch candidates? On September 22 2012 12:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
Atreides the timezone explanation is not the one I was looking for that would set aside my doubts about your coming into the thread right as the deadline happened but it's believable. Also, the fact that marv posted about the no-lynch idea right after you posted your last post before deadline makes me accept that your no-lynch comment probably wasn't some sort of lie that you made up on the spot and had no prior knowledge of. The one thing that I'm stuck on is why you would think a no lynch would be better than lynching killing who you had previously said was an acceptable lynch. But anyways those were the main points of my N1 case against you. Apart from those points you've said some questionable things but quality =/= indication of alignment especially in a newbie game so you're down to a null-read. Wanna see you post more as that improves the quality of the read I can make on you.
I don't think atreides should be a lynch candidate. The stuff I just posted is enough for me to not have a scumread on him anymore. He has been lurking but if we have to go for a lurker stutters is a much better choice.
It's a very odd argument because I made it clear that the knowledge of no-lynch as an option changed my stance on voting. In the second post within the spoiler, thrawn says that I'm no longer suspicious and yet he still has that same point against me. When the focus shifted away from me, so did thrawn's suspicion.
Lastly, on to his posts about stutters, who is now the topic of discussion. I feel that everyone has the same opinion on stutters right now, he's a solid lynch candidate but that's mostly due to lurking. I can't make a read off of thrawn here.
2) Ineffectual posting This is more of a wishy washy argument but I get the feeling that thrawn isn't playing strong at all this game compared to what he's used to. I would expect better from one of the more experienced players here. Two examples would be his case against me, and this post: On September 21 2012 12:53 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2012 09:42 RemedySC wrote:
Okay, I don't think mafia got lucky in killing a blue.
Looks like other than the Sharrant read, Sonic's biggest read was Atreides-, Debears, and Killing.
All three have had good arguments made against them. Possibly they they thought Sonic might have more info. Remedy this post sets off my scum alarms. I son't have any evidence (and neither do you) why mafia would have killed sonic other than that he was really townish and I don't think anyone suspected him. So when you start talking about how they might have killed him because of his reads it just makes me think there's some manipulation going on behind his nightkill and your post.
I think that Remedy's post lacked explanation (which is usual for him...) but I don't see what's scummy about it. Your read that Remedy is scummy for providing reasons to sonic's death is opposite. If anything mafia would want to feign ignorance about his death, to make it seem like they had no part in it.
Possible reasons for this:
a) he's mafia, trying to make accusations and cases against people to seem town
b) self-preservation, although him being blue is slightly unlikely
c) coincidence? he's just having a bad game? I'm just way off base?
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1) Earlier I was only a little suspicious of thrawn, but much more so now. Mostly I want clarification on the contradiction I pointed out, as that's by far my strongest case against him. My points in 2) are mostly my feelings that came from briefly comparing thrawn's posting this game versus the 2 previous games.
2) I'm still not 100% on stutters yet, as I said I'm waiting for him to make a real post before making judgement on him. If he fails to be pretty active before lynch, he puts town in an awkward position.
3) Let me know if my post above is annoying to read due to formatting etc so I won't post that way again.
4) can't believe I'm still here at 4:30 AM
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Going out for dinner soon but I think I just had a click moment. Not regarding thrawn I will need to look at that later but I will investigate it and post if the logic checks out.
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On September 22 2012 10:12 debears wrote:Now for the serious part. Your play has come off weird at the start. Show nested quote + Dandel Ion Austria. September 21 2012 22:57. Posts 1813 PM Profile Quote #
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Yeah, I know rethos looked a bit scummy, but I do think that prior to the whole "I don't give a shit h4h4h4h4"-debacle, he was 100% following the bad-newbie-town semi-lurker path. What part of the debacle are you talking about? Site a specific post please so I know where your reference post begins.
I mean the part where he stops being just bad, and starts being a retard.
Open his filter and start with this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548¤tpage=33#641
Shouldn't be too hard to find.
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Also, some LOGIC about the roleblock and nightkill to start things off:
On September 21 2012 13:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
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If the reasoning behind that is that he is trying to save his strongest town read then it would have gone to either of the 2 confirmed masons. Anyway there are tons of possible explanations of the roleblock and no reason to believe any of more than any other so I'd rather not speculate about it.
SDM probably roleblocked you.
In fact, IF you have been roleblocked, it was SDM.
Reasoning: It was redundant for him to roleblock one of the masons.
You all treat the masons as confirmed town, but they really are not. As long as none of them flip, there will remain some doubt.
And it could possibly surface at a very bad time for town. It would be incredibly stupid for scum to shoot one mason, and leave the other in the game. During Night 1, that is.
I wouldn't exactly call it stupid. Having 2 masons who can privately communicate in the game are more powerful than you think. For instance, although Sharky is not posting much, it is possible him and Sharant are building up a huge case on their own. That is also most likely why SDM would have protected them if he did.
Now the thing is, scum got lucky and hit the jailkeeper, which means they could possibly kill Sharrant and Sharky during the next 2 nightphases.
In another post Show nested quote +I'd also be down for lynching Stutters, Killing or Atreides, but all of them are mostly policy about lurking/non-conributing, and less about actual scumreads.
I do think, however, that getting rid of lurkers one way or the other is absolutely necessary looking towards MYLO/LYLO. If there's only 1 or 2 lurkers, that could be easily solved with a vig shot, but we have 3 (4 counting the late rethos), and possibly no Vig at all. Which sucks. I absolutely hate when people mention vig shots, especially when it comes to lurkers early game. Xatalos did last game and he ended up a mafia. When I was reading over the game, Xatalos' post screamed out mafia, and yours here is similar. It gives me the feeling that you are saying "I'm mafia. Please shot 'X' lurker so that I don't have to worry about you mr. vigilante. We can lynch the lurkers. Mafia in the mid and late game, when they are active, can be deadly and sometimes can't be lynched.
So a bad scum I don't know in a newbie game I didn't play in said something about Vigs during the game.
Now clearly, the most logical thing for you to do is to jump on me (the "easy target") with a horrible association case that you base off a random guy?
Oh wow, if you really think that's scumhunting, then good luck.
Then, about remedy Show nested quote +Now, I don’t know if his post between that was his “better argument”, but it doesn’t look like it to me
(For reference:+ Show Spoiler +)
He keeps promising posts/activity, but you should get what I'm saying by now. Just read through his filter, it's not a long read.
But that’s just side notes. The real issue I have with him is how he “scumhunts”.
He just quotes shit and then slaps a one/twoliner or some random questions onto it. The funny thing is that Rethos did that same thing throughout d1 when I called him out for it. I am assuming you at the least read through your previous identity's filter to know what he said. If not, please look at my argument against him.
What are you trying to say here, hmm?
That rethos behaved just as Remedy did, but for some reason you think Remedy is town(?) and rethos is scum, or what?
It doesn't make sense for you to use this argument, because if you were honest about it, you should have had a town read on rethos too.
Double standard much?
Please elaborate on why you think Remedy is town, and rethos scum. I'm listening.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 19 2012 14:05 debears wrote:Show nested quote + Sharrant Canada. September 19 2012 12:15. Posts 15 PM Profile Quote #
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@Atreides
That was me that mentioned the possibility of them both being masons.
@Kush I agree with you about lurkers at this time. I'm ready to bury the hatchet on both debears and thrawn in order to get rid of one of our hard lurkers. I will be able to post an argument on you and Kush tomorrow, most likely in the morning. In the lurkers, there is one that still has my attention, Rethos. Show nested quote +On September 19 2012 06:33 rethos wrote:
@thrawn2112 since the whole debears affair, your conflict with SDM seemed to have been left in the air. What is your current read about SDM? Do you have any other reads that the town might want to know about? This was his last post. Although he is posting, his posts are not beneficial. Most of the latest ones contain questions. He hasn't directed accusations at anyone. Show nested quote +Why, if he is town, is he trying to convince people he is right? What does that do? How does that help? Is it just bad town play? This is just a sample of what he does. Three questions in a row that he did not post an answer for himself.
Most of his other posts follow a similar format. He just directs the question at someone. I understand the difference in time zones affecting the amount of posts. However, the quality is poor. He isn't taking a stand on anything. Looks like he is trying to look active without provoking anyone. Then, this post + Show Spoiler +On September 22 2012 03:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
Also, please don't just vote me and go brainafk.
Even if I did replace a scum (which I did not blablabla), there's still more scum in this and just going "yep lynch this guy, see you in two days" will not help.
Just saying.
If you want to lynch rethos (aka me), go on ahead, but don't be idiots about it. That's all I will say about the whole rethos matter. I don't like how you are just dismissing the case against Rethos/you. There are clear scumtells in his writing that we can't ignore.
Well guess what, I don't like it either.
But what can I do?
I have no fucking idea what he was thinking or doing. I couldn't even ask him, or talk to him.
So how the fuck should I defend accusations that have nothing to do with me, that I would find scummy myself, and where I have no idea why he did what he did?
Protip: I can't do shit
Which is why I want town to talk about something else. But if you want to call it "sweeping under the rug" and keep trapling on a dead guy with no way to defend himself, go on ahead.
And it's funny you bold a little part of my sentence and ignore the stuff written in the rest of it.
I never told anyone they can't vote for me (like anyone would listen), I only want you to TALK about something different.
Even if I was scum, there'd be two more.
And when I flip green, you see that you're gonna have to find three more.
So I suggest(ed) looking into that. But it seems you are not interested. Why not?
You mention sharky lurking hard in this post (and later ones also), although right before you state that you are 99% sure he is town. Although he may be lurking, he may be privately working with sharrant to catch up. Also, why should we put pressure on a (99% according to you) townie for the sake of making him post? We are pressuring people to get information and correct reads.
Oh wow, way to not read my filter!! Good job!
I was already asked (kinda) about this and answered it. It's true, I'm even linking it, otherwise you might not find it in my massive one-page filter! Here! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367548¤tpage=38#749
I am putting pressure on him in a way, yes.
Because he's being SUPER useless while being "confirmed" town. And that makes me mad. Cause if he keeps that up when Sharrant gets shot (and Sharrant WILL get shot soon, since he's the only mason that actually does ANYTHING), it ain't gonna be pretty.
Yet again, same point I've shown from previous posts. You have zoomed in on Remedy as desperation to take the pressure off yourself. You cannot just dismiss the case against rethos/you. You came into the game with immense pressure on you and your response is sweep it under the rug. Rethos had a short filter. Most of the case against him was made after the lynch, which you definitely should have read first thing. You are also making weird statements back and forth on the masons, which are pretty clear by now. Go find the couple of hours before the lynch if you must read it in depth. And finally, the vig shot post...ew.
At this point, you have added to the scumminess of rethos in my eyes
Oh, I know a case exists. But I want you to meditate, find your inner center, and tell me how I should treat the case instead.
And stop being hypocritical about me not reading or whatever - I read the thread, I read all the filters. But you yourself seem to have conveniently skipped over some of my posts (in one case even over the sentence you were quoting from), just to rehash some concerns that have already been answered.
You even mention the mason thing, which was a stupid misunderstanding that thrawn STILL pointed out AFTER I ALREADY explained it without anyone even asking. Okay, okay, maybe a mistake by him (though scum thrawn is looking more likely by the minute), but WHY do you feel the need to bring that up again?
This sentence alone makes me think you're just trying to appear like you're "scumhunting", when you actually don't*. So you call my post "weird" to discredit me.
*This is not just about this one sentence, you whole "case" is rehashed garbage you could've answered yourself if you actually read through the thread/my filter to really scumhunt, instead of picking a few posts out of context, ingoring the explainations I already gave, etc.
Your only original contribution is the assosiation "case" with Xathalos. And that is so fucking horrible it gives me the worst nightmares (good thing I just woke up)
But at least I can give you the good news! Remedy is no longer my top scumread! It's you! You win! Yaaaaay!
##vote debears
Disclaimer: I'd still be up for lynching remedy/stutters/insert-lurker-here too.
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Still no posts? Ok I am going to post this while I haven't drunk much, I think Stutters is scum, however something clicked. If we have an SK and if he wasn't blocked who would it be? Sharrent posted why and SK wouldn't kill someone but that was close to the deadline if I remember. Stutters was AFK almost the whole night and just say he actually was busy... he wouldn't have put in a target to kill.
This is relient on a few factors though, however even if he isn't Sk he is very likely to be mafia. For the reasons I have been listing along everyone elses arguments.
Also Tommorow is sunday morning and also my birthday so I will be awake a few hours before the lynch but I might have to pick my sister up so..
Lynch time is 10 my time I should be up around 7-8 so this time if someone is going to rolecall do it then or before lol. I should be up to late tonight and I don't plan on drinking that much...
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Oh and just to clarify this isn't a click everything makes sence but it's a hey this is a possibility type click.
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Why is everyone* so focused on SK?
It's not even sure there is one (in fact, it's more likely there is not), and even if there is, finding him is almost the same as scumhunting, he just has no teammates to either give him away or protect him.
You can worry about the SK when people keep dying and you already got 2 scum, but the way this game is going, you're not gonna have even a single scum anytime soon.
Pls go back to looking for scum, instead of speculating about SK.
Thx.
*slight exaggeration
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Everyone is focused on sk? I think the only two that mentioned it was sharrent and I. (it just seemed to make sense in the situation) I am looking for scum I just thought it was also a possibility.
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oh everyone with an exaggeration... right.
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Ebwop Also I just noticed your massive post so I will try and go though both the aterias case and yours.
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Hmm I will probably wait for the responses before I post. See if the return arguments have any weight. I still feel that thrawn is town though. That said you have the same argument against thrawn that I have against kush, (both off their games) I have thoughts on the accosiation case that debears posted however I will wait for his responce to see how he answers. (will write my thoughts in my notes pile though)
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Hey, guys, my apologies for being mostly AFK yesterday. I read the thread several times, but SC2's siren call was strong.
I really like Dandel's post. If nothing else it makes me think of him as much more likely being town. Rethos totally fucked him over in that regards though. His weird little freakout/lying spree/wah wah I quit really painted him as scummy. Dandel, you're still really suspicious to me, but you haven't really had time to make a case either way. I've mentioned even before Rethos freaked out that I was pretty sure he was scum, just based on a feeling. And then he gives me evidence as powerful as that.
There seems to be a growing movement against Thrawn, but I'm suspicious of the people who it comes from. It's a possibility I've kept in mind, primarily from the times he has started posting very aggresively, but unless something big comes out, I don't think I'm on board with trying to bandwagon him. I'd rather wait for him to slip up later.
On a Kush/Thrawn/Stutters team
Stutters was someone that Thrawn avoided in his lurker lynch policy, when I still considered him a strong lurker (but less so than Drazak after his bandwagon vote on me, and than Killing post his earlier scumminess). If I'm wrong, please show me where, but I believe Thrawn has avoided Stutters for the most part. He's shown a lot of bluster when dealing with Kush, they've picked fights, but they've never actually gone after each other for the most part. There's a possible bus set up by Kush, but I dunno, that'd be a rather convenient team.
Now where that falls apart somewhat is with Thrawn's current case against Stutters. He's either setting up a possible bus because of Stutters lack of posting, or he's a legitimate town thinking that Stutters hasn't been posting and was part of the mislynch bandwagon. Problems I have with this: He's bussing when there's a really strong bandwagon on Dandel? Unlikely. But I also have a problem with the set up, it's rather weak on its dependence on the premise that at least 1 mafia was involved in the lynching.
I keep hearing a lot about how Kush is off his game, I can't attest to that, I can however say he does seem to ignore possibilities entirely at several points. Not seeing the scum motivation in casting all the voters on the Drazak bandwagon as scum, immediately considering myself and (then Cubu, now) Sharky confirmed town. Yes it would be dumb to be playing a WIFOM game that's so easy to confirm two scum, but it's still a possibility until myself or Sharky dies.
So I'm still undecided on Kush as well, fact is he's a fairly regular poster and that also gives him so points in my book.
Right now my #1 is Stutters, until I hear more from him, or someone can bring up something I missed that changed my mind.
##vote Stutters695
Remedy is also up there, he's just been lurking hard, and has played slightly scummy. Unfortunately my read hasn't really changed on him because not much has been said by him (again, if I'm missing something please let me know).
Dandel is a possible for me. Rethos was scummy as shit by the end, but I'd personally feel bad killing Dandel for that without giving himself a chance to extricate himself from Rethos' bad play. That might be a mistake, I'm not sure. If it comes down to it, I will vote for him.
Kush, man, you're still while I may be undecided on you, you're still knee deep in shit just for saying Drazak did a lot of scum hunting. The post you quoted was his only post of any contribution, and it was so weak I don't even know what to say. Maybe it really, really, really did convince you, and I'm just missing the spectacular things hidden inside of that post, but maybe you're trying to buy yourself some town cred. I'm really not sure, you are hard to read at times.
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Vote count!
Dandel Ion (4) - KillingTime, thrawn2112, JacobStrangelove, debears
Stutters695 (1) - kushm4sta, Sharrant
JacobStrangelove (1) - kushm4sta
debears (1) - Dandel Ion
Currently DandelIon is set to be lynched with 4 votes. Deadline in just over 10 hours.
RemedySC, Stutters695, Atreides, sharky246 all have yet to vote.
If anything is incorrect, let me know :D
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@sharrant well I think a lot of scumhunting relative to his post count. it looked like he was concerned with finding scum. Maybe we disagree with what scumhunting entails.
Why are you focusing on that phrase I said like 2 days ago and how would it make me scum?
To all the other thrawn suspectors, and it seems like there are more now, why would scum thrawn go through the trouble of doing the timestamp analysis?
No one likes my case against Jacob??? i thought it was really good wtf
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Quick post - just arrived in England and still setting things up so not much time - will try to come and read thread before lynch though. Here is the thing about Dandel - obviously rethos was scummy as anything at the end, but Dandel has atleast tried to play well since he has joined the game. I didn't understand his case against debears on first reading - but I will look at it again tonight, esp as I had debears as a scum read d1. If dandel is going to be an active poster, then everyone is going to be watching him super closely - so I do wonder if we are better off lynching a lurker. I need to think about a stutters or remedy lynch and which I prefer - but they would be my top 2 switch choices atm. I also need to read Atredies filter again because he is null to me atm and had fallen off my radar.
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On September 22 2012 00:42 RemedySC wrote:
That is assuming Thrawn is town. If he was mafia, a town would roleblock him so he couldn't perform a night action.
Why are you defending him with bad logic?
On September 22 2012 01:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Disclaimer: I am not done with reading the thread and respective filters
Right now, I have deep suspicions of Remedy. No sure if they will stand, but I think they may.
I'd also be down for lynching Stutters, Killing or Atreides, but all of them are mostly policy about lurking/non-conributing, and less about actual scumreads.
I do think, however, that getting rid of lurkers one way or the other is absolutely necessary looking towards MYLO/LYLO. If there's only 1 or 2 lurkers, that could be easily solved with a vig shot, but we have 3 (4 counting the late rethos), and possibly no Vig at all. Which sucks.
I need to look more into debears, so I'd like to withhold judgement for now, but I'll bring him up if I see something suspicious.
Sorry to be "that guy", but I'll come back to this later.
Dandel, you posted this 28 minutes after I called you out for bad logic. Previous to this you only mentioned me because there was a mistake in someone calling me Regent. You never responded to my question and are instead trying to get the attention off yourself.
Did I hit a nerve? You seem to really want me gone now.
My posts may be shitty and lack content, but i have always been pro-town. I could have easily gone after drazak or Cubu Day 1, but instead I refused to vote on Cubu, and I didn't know what to think on the Drazak situation. That is why I didn't post with 45 minutes remaining day 1. I didn't think i could say anything that would make a difference when Lynch time was so close.
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On September 23 2012 00:15 RemedySC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 00:42 RemedySC wrote:
That is assuming Thrawn is town. If he was mafia, a town would roleblock him so he couldn't perform a night action.
Why are you defending him with bad logic? Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 01:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Disclaimer: I am not done with reading the thread and respective filters
Right now, I have deep suspicions of Remedy. No sure if they will stand, but I think they may.
I'd also be down for lynching Stutters, Killing or Atreides, but all of them are mostly policy about lurking/non-conributing, and less about actual scumreads.
I do think, however, that getting rid of lurkers one way or the other is absolutely necessary looking towards MYLO/LYLO. If there's only 1 or 2 lurkers, that could be easily solved with a vig shot, but we have 3 (4 counting the late rethos), and possibly no Vig at all. Which sucks.
I need to look more into debears, so I'd like to withhold judgement for now, but I'll bring him up if I see something suspicious.
Sorry to be "that guy", but I'll come back to this later. Dandel, you posted this 28 minutes after I called you out for bad logic. Previous to this you only mentioned me because there was a mistake in someone calling me Regent. You never responded to my question and are instead trying to get the attention off yourself. Did I hit a nerve? You seem to really want me gone now. My posts may be shitty and lack content, but i have always been pro-town. I could have easily gone after drazak or Cubu Day 1, but instead I refused to vote on Cubu, and I didn't know what to think on the Drazak situation. That is why I didn't post with 45 minutes remaining day 1. I didn't think i could say anything that would make a difference when Lynch time was so close.
What? lol
Are you trying to make this personal?
If so, you're not doing a good job of it.
I got suspicious of you when I saw how distracting and disruptive you were in the beginning, without contributing. That was before you made your weird posts where you clearly didn't (want to) understand what was actually going on.
Were you trying to hit a nerve? Cause you didn't. Maybe you're frustrated because of that now?
And "shitty" and "no-content" is not pro-town, no matter what you tell yourself.
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Btw strange night, not so much drinking on a saturday but I found out one of my male friends is actually female... Known this guy for over a year.
I think someone or something has his dandel's nerve. His posts against remedy and debears seem full of hit nerves. However considering stutters doesn't seem to be connected to dandel (if anything I would say dandel remedy have one scum in them at least but I can't see any connection to stutters at this point in time) and considering he is posting I am willing to give him the extra day to prove himself. Stutters hasn't posted much at all, seems scummy etc.. listed it all before so if he doesn't come in to the thread without an amazingly good argument or role call he can back up I will change my vote to stutters.
Oh also happy birthday to me!
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EBWOP: Will vote in the morning Night guys.
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@thrawn I actually really like your argument against stutters.
There is always at least 1 scum voting for the bandwagon. Bandwagon 2-6 one of those are usually scum.
That leaves me thrawn and stutter. I know im town. At the moment I think thrawn is probably town.
No one is biting on my jacob case. Screw you guys because I think he is scummy as fuck. So I'm changing my vote for stutters.
Mostly I want to make him the main bandwagon so we can avoid this retarded dandel lynch.
##unvote
##vote stutters
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