EPTNewbie Mini Mafia XXVII - Page 41
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
| ||
|
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 22 2012 13:59 kushm4sta wrote: K so the questions everyone needs to answer: who is your biggest scumread? are you willing to hop on a stutters bandwagon? rethos/dandel, and after that either remedy or stutters. remedy was my #2 but after doing the research for my last post stutters has moved up the scum radar a lot higher so as of now idk which of them I'd put in the #2 spot. And yes I would definitely vote stutters but not right not unless rethos isn't getting lynched. | ||
|
kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
Why is it a sure thing that 1 scum voted for drazak? How sure are we about the sharrant mason claim actually? I know before I said blah blah 100% why are we even talking about it, but recently i've been thinking. I only thought it was very unlikely they were scum because of the risk. Then their towniness was confirmed by the chat log timestamps. Does it actually confirm them because I pretty much just saw the timestamps and took other people's word for it without even looking at them. | ||
|
kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
| ||
|
JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
On September 22 2012 13:36 kushm4sta wrote: I said it before and I will say it again. The measure of a lurker is not his post count, it's not his word count. It's matter of contribution to the scumhunt. Jacob is an active lurker, and that reeks of scum. Can anyone even remember a stance jacob has taken? Remedy, killing, stutters, atreides, I can remember something about all of them without even looking at their filter. Jacob has been all about the bandwagon, and the half hearted accusations. This is the second post against me.. where is the vote? Not even a fucking FOS. First of all I wouldn’t vote for you because I feel we should lynch lurkers second I am not prone to FoSing people. (yes I did at the start of this thread but as you should know from last game I hardly ever fos’d people) I prefer to let my words and commitment to people speak for themselves. Also I wasn’t conviced as much by atreides being scum and was probably one of the first to go after stutters. Another thing to note is I was the first one to go at rethos after his spastic posts and his lying. If he is mafia and I am mafia then I would wait and hope it wasn’t noticed. If I was town and he was mafia I would obviously jump on him, If I was mafia and he was town then I would wait for someone else to pick it up so it wouldn’t seem obvious... Also yes I am going after those other people, But I provide reasons I think they are scum point out reasons that other people have said that are good and point out reasons there arguments might not be as strong as they think. I am not mindlessly band wagoning as you seem to think. On September 22 2012 13:36 kushm4sta wrote: @jacob So according to this statement, we shouldn't be scumhunting active people? We should and I am, but we should focus on a lurker lynch over an active lynch. If we happen to lynch an active player that is town we basically lose the game. Assuming a NK goes though then we lose two active town players and all we have left are lurkers. There are scum for sure in the lurkers I am almost convinced that either Daniel or remedy are scum and I also think stutters is scum. On September 22 2012 13:36 kushm4sta wrote: In the next part of the post he casts suspicion on dandel for trying to get people to focus on remedy. But the suspicion is so soooo slight. Read the part where he suspects dandel for shifting focus to remedy. His suspicion has the force of a feather. Then he suspects remedy, yes the same remedy he chides dandel for investigating. I didn’t chide dandle for investigating him I just noticed how he seemed to be using it as a distraction. I am not going to lie it is a slight suspicion. But you have to understand this is on the back of all the lying rethos did. On September 22 2012 13:36 kushm4sta wrote: Here is my jacob impersonation: This guys kinda scummy, so is this guy. Who is scummier? Should we let them convince us who is scummier? Well this well is dry time to move on. So far he has made no definitive statements, and he's already moved on to his 4th suspicion, stutters. And here he reiterates the scumminess of stutters afk timings. To accuse stutters right now makes sense, but it is also safe as fuck. Everyone is suspicious of stutters. People need to answer these questions to find out the truth. I already have stated who I think is scummier but having the vote on Daniel. That is a pretty definite statement don’t you think? I already pointed out I have been suspicions of stutters even before this huge afk gap. I was the one to bring up the fact that he said he would be active before the thread even started. On September 22 2012 13:36 kushm4sta wrote: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have 1 game experience with jacob, and he can be hard to understand. But this is the same jacob as in last game. I don't know who obsed last game but killing you were there till the end. Do you concur? No this is not the same Jacob as last game, my clone look a vacation. I assume you are trying to say is this the same Jacob? You tell me to learn English... | ||
|
kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
| ||
|
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 22 2012 14:06 kushm4sta wrote: @thrawn Why is it a sure thing that 1 scum voted for drazak? How sure are we about the sharrant mason claim actually? I know before I said blah blah 100% why are we even talking about it, but recently i've been thinking. I only thought it was very unlikely they were scum because of the risk. Then their towniness was confirmed by the chat log timestamps. Does it actually confirm them because I pretty much just saw the timestamps and took other people's word for it without even looking at them. The one scum voting for drazak is def the weakest part but I can't remember a single mislynch I've been a part of where there weren't ANY mafia who voted for the town guy. And for me the timestamps was the thing that pretty much forced me into accepting them as masons. Here's the post I did about them. If you want to check my research yourself, or do additional research beyond the 2 timestamps I looked up, then the list of timestamps are on that page I linked you and sharrant posted the timezone for them as well. The qt chat long is on the previous page. I started looking up the times and referencing them with events that took place in the thread and the first 2 came up clean. I noticed it had taken me quite a long time to convert timezones, and read through the thread to see if the qt posts matched up. If sharrant had made them up, then it would have taken him a good amount of time to fake them so cleanly. Then I realized that he had posted the time stamps 5 minutes after I asked for them which would be an inhuman time for them to have been fabricated. The only ways I can see that falling apart is if A) the two events I looked up happened to be the only ones he managed to guess correctly (he would have had like 20 seconds to spend guessing at each one) or B) he made the timestamps a long time before I asked for them. If A is true well then fuck me for being so unlucky. You can go do the research yourself and try out different posts than I did or I'll even do it if you're lazy and doubting A is true. I don't think B is likely because if he faked them a long time before I asked then why wouldn't he have included them in the original qt post? | ||
|
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
Lots of people have been making those arguments this whole game and I actually start getting suspicious when I see them. At best it gives a null read on your true intentions. | ||
|
JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
On September 22 2012 14:21 kushm4sta wrote: edwop this is NOT the same jacob lol Ha serves you right, now about scum reads. Dandel/stutters/kush/remedy. However I think remedy and danel both being mafia is unlikely. Yes I would be willing to go for stutters for obvious reasons. The entire thread I have been going at him but haven’t been able to come up with a large enough argument due to him lurking. Also yeah I honestly thing that scum voted for drazak and with stutters kush both being scum reads I wouldn't dispute this. I doubt there is a hole in the mason claim if there is well.... (who is yourharry?) I am not convinced about 3 but stutters is lurking at the same time. I think 4 is true, I am noticing the same synergy I was getting with kush last game. (although that part of it is a feel read) | ||
|
JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
On September 22 2012 14:29 thrawn2112 wrote: Jacob, (and actually everyone else who's done this) I don't like "if I was mafia" arguments. Because if you are mafia, then obviously you will lie about what you would do if you were mafia! Lots of people have been making those arguments this whole game and I actually start getting suspicious when I see them. At best it gives a null read on your true intentions. Hmm that is true... I am just putting in what I would do as mafia but I see your point. | ||
|
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 22 2012 14:30 JacobStrangelove wrote:(who is yourharry?) lol go ask goodkarma | ||
|
JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
| ||
|
sharky246
1197 Posts
On September 22 2012 13:53 thrawn2112 wrote: I've been looking at the final vote count. I think it's very very safe to assume that at least 1 mafia voted for drazak. The people who voted for drazak are: Sharrant, Sonic Death Monkey, kushm4sta, thrawn2112, Stutters695. So then I removed sharrant, sonic, and myself, which leaves kush and stutters. Out of those two I think it's more likely stutters is scum. And when I look at their votes, kush made that retarded "ok looks like drazzak is the bandwagon then" vote. Originally it looked suspicious but consider this... why the fuck would a mafia player bandwagon onto a townie lynch and then use such a terrible phrase? Especially to even include the word bandwagon? That imo, is a colossal error that I don't think anyone would be capable of. (well maybe yourharry would find some way to rationalize it) So, that leaves stutters who already looks suspicious, both for lurking, and because of how he stops lurking to pop in the thread once someone calls him out. So if all the follwoing is true, Stutters has to be scum 1: At least 1 mafia voted for drazak 2: There are no holes we've overlooked in sharrant's mason claim 3: My reasoning about kush's vote is extremely likely to be correct (4: and an additional one for people other than myself would be that thrawn is town) For me of course 4 is 100 true. 2 is so close to 100 percent true it may as well be 100 percent. Then I think 3 is the next most likely and 1 is probably the part of the theory I have the most hesitations about. However I think 1 and 3 are solid enough. So in other words I think stutters is a pretty damn good lynch option. Not only for all the reasons just mentioned but also because he's a huge lurker. I was thinking that maybe all three of you (kushm4sta, thrawn2112 and stutters695) are mafia (got nothing against you personally). I mean afterall, it is in the best interest of the mafia to lynch a townie. But to think that that is the case is abit too simplistic, albeit a possibility. | ||
|
JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
| ||
|
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 22 2012 14:36 sharky246 wrote: I was thinking that maybe all three of you (kushm4sta, thrawn2112 and stutters695) are mafia (got nothing against you personally). I mean afterall, it is in the best interest of the mafia to lynch a townie. But to think that that is the case is abit too simplistic, albeit a possibility. I know that everyone thinks of you as confirmed mason and all that but since you've joined the theory you just posted (about thinking 3 mafia voted for drazak) has been the most extensively thought out idea you've posted. Do you have any other ideas or reads? You shouldn't just leave it all the work up to sharrant. | ||
|
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 22 2012 14:35 JacobStrangelove wrote: uhh ok... It's an inside joke for people who were around during my first game (so I guess only the hosts) but if you really want to know just go read the obs qt for newbie game XXIV lol. | ||
|
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 22 2012 14:14 kushm4sta wrote: wait if it's plurality vote why do we even need a backup plurality lynch doesn't mean you should only vote your top scumread. marv explained it pretty well here | ||
|
JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
| ||
|
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On September 22 2012 15:02 JacobStrangelove wrote: Ok lol I actually pm'd him so... LOL dear lord you are going to get an entertaining response | ||
|
thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
| ||
| ||
